Author Topic: The Pittsburgh Massacre Wasn’t Trump’s Fault, but He’s Not Helping By Jonah Goldberg  (Read 1765 times)

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Offline Absalom

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@Absalom

Yeah, my mistake.  I meant Suicide of the West. I'm aware of Buchanan's book, obviously.

Actually Goldberg's book contains a lot more than that.  It's also an extensive history of the birth and development of capitalism, its ability to pull people out of poverty, and the lack of gratitude on the part of Americans for what he calls "the Miracle" that is a necessity in allowing it to continue.
By the way, is there any reason you capitalize all of those random words in your sentences?
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Fair enough as errors are a human legacy.

As for Goldberg's,
" extensive history of the birth and development of capitalism,
its ability to pull people out of poverty and the lack of gratitude
on the part of Americans for the Miracle..........." suggest you reflect
a moment on a contrarian perspective re: the virtues of Capitalism!
Around 1720 the Enlightenment emerged in France as a rejection
of the established order among European nation/states, who were
led and controlled by the Monarchy and its right arm, the RC Church.
Then some 70 years later, it ended w/a ferocious revolution.
But mid-way along that timeline there was another passenger in
the back seat, the Industrial Revolution, which gave birth to Capitalism,
and in the process created great riches in the world.
Yet it also spawned another phenomenon that was hardly value neutral.
Man's tribal culture evolved into the first nation/state at Jericho in the
Fertile Crescent some 8,500 years ago.
Further, the attributes of all successful cultures/societies till our time have
included, self-discipline, responsibility, work, courage, perseverance and
honor; all anchored by a strong impulse for the spiritual which is independent
of any religious belief or sentiment.
But Capitalism forever changed that dynamic and for the worse, because what
we lust for is material betterment or in the slang of the present; more stuff.
And this reality can be measured directly and simply by the quality of art; the
expression of creative ability in the form of drama, music, painting and sculpture;
then versus now.
Are we richer than the Ancients? Of Course.
Yet we are mere dwarfs who stand on the enormous shoulders
of the Giants of the past, which allows us to see as far as we do.
Insisting otherwise is embarrassing.
 

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Fair enough as errors are a human legacy.

As for Goldberg's,
" extensive history of the birth and development of capitalism,
its ability to pull people out of poverty and the lack of gratitude
on the part of Americans for the Miracle..........." suggest you reflect
a moment on a contrarian perspective re: the virtues of Capitalism!
Around 1720 the Enlightenment emerged in France as a rejection
of the established order among European nation/states, who were
led and controlled by the Monarchy and its right arm, the RC Church.
Then some 70 years later, it ended w/a ferocious revolution.
But mid-way along that timeline there was another passenger in
the back seat, the Industrial Revolution, which gave birth to Capitalism,
and in the process created great riches in the world.
Yet it also spawned another phenomenon that was hardly value neutral.
Man's tribal culture evolved into the first nation/state at Jericho in the
Fertile Crescent some 8,500 years ago.
Further, the attributes of all successful cultures/societies till our time have
included, self-discipline, responsibility, work, courage, perseverance and
honor; all anchored by a strong impulse for the spiritual which is independent
of any religious belief or sentiment.
But Capitalism forever changed that dynamic and for the worse, because what
we lust for is material betterment or in the slang of the present; more stuff.
And this reality can be measured directly and simply by the quality of art; the
expression of creative ability in the form of drama, music, painting and sculpture;
then versus now.
Are we richer than the Ancients? Of Course.
Yet we are mere dwarfs who stand on the enormous shoulders
of the Giants of the past, which allows us to see as far as we do.
Insisting otherwise is embarrassing.

@Absalom

Yeah, I learned all of that from Goldberg’s book.  Guess this means you’re both scribblers?

Suggest you reflect a moment on random capitalization of words.  It doesn’t make the words more significant or important.  It’s grammatically incorrect, annoying to read, and it makes the writer look like he doesn’t know the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.

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@Absalom

Yeah, I learned all of that from Goldberg’s book.  Guess this means you’re both scribblers?

Suggest you reflect a moment on random capitalization of words.  It doesn’t make the words more significant or important.  It’s grammatically incorrect, annoying to read, and it makes the writer look like he doesn’t know the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.
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Predictable that you obsess over trivialities such as CAPITALIZATION.
Obviously they occupy a significant void.
Good bye!!!

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Predictable that you obsess over trivialities such as CAPITALIZATION.
Obviously they occupy a significant void.
Not anywhere near as significant as the void occupied by imprecise spelling and expression.


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Predictable that you obsess over trivialities such as CAPITALIZATION.
Obviously they occupy a significant void.
Good bye!!!

@Absalom

Well, proper language usage is important.  I'm surprised an intellectual authority such as yourself doesn't agree.


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@Absalom

Well, proper language usage is important.  I'm surprised an intellectual authority such as yourself doesn't agree.

Writing short little one-sentence paragraphs is the sign of a 3-year-old.
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Writing short little one-sentence paragraphs is the sign of a 3-year-old.

@Cyber Liberty

What about all the space                                                                                                                                                                    over here?  It gets lonely when it isn't used.

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What about all the space                                                                                                                                                                    over here?  It gets lonely when it isn't used.

I had a guy at TOS who would never capitalize and rarely used punctuation.  He was whining about people treating him like crap and I told him that was why.  He said, "So?  It's my style!"  I informed him he's talking to a lot of professional writers, and they don't take kindly to idiots who rubbish their craft.  Either correct his style or GTFO.  He did the latter. :shrug:
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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I had a guy at TOS who would never capitalize and rarely used punctuation.  He was whining about people treating him like crap and I told him that was why.  He said, "So?  It's my style!"  I informed him he's talking to a lot of professional writers, and they don't take kindly to idiots who rubbish their craft.  Either correct his style or GTFO.  He did the latter. :shrug:

@Cyber Liberty

"It's my style" sounds exactly like something an idiot social justice warrior would say to excuse the fact that he never picked up a book.  You don't expect that from conservatives.

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I had a guy at TOS who would never capitalize and rarely used punctuation.  He was whining about people treating him like crap and I told him that was why.  He said, "So?  It's my style!"  I informed him he's talking to a lot of professional writers, and they don't take kindly to idiots who rubbish their craft.  Either correct his style or GTFO.  He did the latter. :shrug:
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He must have thought he was e.e. cummings reincarnated while coming across more like Falstaff Openshaw---without the wit.


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He must have thought he was e.e. cummings reincarnated while coming across more like Falstaff Openshaw---without the wit.

Worse...he said he was like that guy who wrote "fear and loathing on the campaign trail" or somebody.  Hunter Thompson, that's it.  Did he write like that?
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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Worse...he said he was like that guy who wrote "fear and loathing on the campaign trail" or somebody.  Hunter Thompson, that's it.  Did he write like that?
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Thompson's metier was actually borne out of his habit of doing his note-taking, interviewing, and recording while almost forgetting he had a deadline, thus he'd sent pages from his notebooks to his editors while also writing furiously in order to meet his deadlines at just about the last minute. (The fact that there wouldn't be time enough to edit most of them was a plus for Thompson.) That was the approach of the assorted articles that morphed into Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72. Thompson actually wasn't that messy a punctuator, speller, or grammarian.
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