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I'm not convinced military strategy needs to be advertised, even if you think it would be nice.

I understand you.  If this ends up being "National Guard" then this is all bullshit that loses Trump points.
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Oh, please calm down and stop throwing around your usual asinine hyperbole.  We're facing a huge threat.

Understand our military is not going to open fire on these people.  This being the case, what would you like to see the President do?  I'm being serious here Invar.  Either join a rational conversation about the possible or take some time off and get some rest.

It’s not @INVAR ‘s job to figure out the solution. It’s the president’s, and if he can’t it’s his job to consult only the best people that he bragged about hiring.
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I'm not convinced military strategy needs to be advertised, even if you think it would be nice.

A lot of people that are going to be voting over the next week or two would probably appreciate the reassurance that our borders will not be allowed to be breached by these invaders.  It's not just me, IOW.  Trump would be helping the GOP by giving that reassurance.   I also think it would be "nice" if Congress passed an emergency bill eliminating that asinine "Catch and Release" law.
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Um.... well.... ok.   This may sound like a stupid question, but here goes.

What, exactly, are the national guard troops supposed to do when the illegal invading hoards push through them and across the border?   Why even bother sending them?

Exactly.  If they think unarmed National Guard is going to stop the army headed toward us they are crazy.  Why would it be any different than what happened at the Mexican border?

Now I know whey Trump didn't declare a state of emergency.  No need its going to be the big beautiful door.

I have FOX news and have been watching.  Bunch of sympathetic idiots.  Poor immigrants with sore feet.
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Oh, please calm down and stop throwing around your usual asinine hyperbole.

People said the same stupid shit to the imbeciles in Europe - who said it was hyperbole and Islamophobia to warn them what the orchestrated refugee crisis was intended to cause there.

This being the case, what would you like to see the President do?  I'm being serious here Invar.

No you're not.  You are not serious about anything but licking Trump's boots apparently.

He has the power to announce and order the closure of our borders and suspending all immigration into the country effective immediately as part of a declared emergency which he has only tweeted about.  He has the power to mobilize and militarize the border and make that very public along with the affirmation that no one from that invasion army/"caravan" is going to be admitted into this country for any reason.  Make it plain that no one entering this county from this point forward is eligible for welfare or assistance from the taxpaying government.   Make that so until such time as DHS and Congress create a vetting system to handle legitimate claims of asylum when ISIS and Jihadist terrorists are hiding among the horde.  Make it plain that NO ONE is getting in here, PERIOD during the duration of this emergency.  And unless those people want to be living in tents in the winter at the border on the Mexican side - they should rethink coming here, because we will not be responsible for the risks they take to try and gain entry when the border is closed.

Those attempting to breach the border will be handled as hostiles via the militarily and sent to Gitmo or some equivalent holding pen until they get shipped back home.

That alone may cause enough pawns in this orchestrated invasion to stop dead in it's tracks rather than risk the photo-op the organizers so desperately want.

But if you are not going to do shit behind words and let the UN 'handle it' when we have tens if not hundreds of thousands and maybe millions that have already poured over our open borders in the last decade, then you have just handed the Left what they wanted anyway, and invited an enemy to have it's way with us.

Where are Trump's balls - when this supposedly is the issue you people say that got Trump the presidency to begin with???

We do not want to see tweets or stupid rhetoric at Nuremberg-esque rallies.  Your political hero needs to do something of actual substance NOW - or he proves himself what some of us have said he was all along.
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We are not going to slaughter unarmed people.  Make them uncomfortable and bodily return them to their countries of origin, yes.

Block and return, yes.  Slaughter, no.

Trump has promised he would keep them out.  How do you see that happening?  What's the plan?  Mexico has already told them to apply for asylum but they kept coming.  Armed military is a deterrent.  Unarmed National Guard is not threatening at all.

Hopefully they wouldn't have to shoot.  Right?  Our military works among citizens of foreign lands all the time.  They are trained.
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It’s not @INVAR ‘s job to figure out the solution. It’s the president’s, and if he can’t it’s his job to consult only the best people that he bragged about hiring.

Another excellent point.

And all of us are waiting while this invasion army is loading up in semis and driving up here as their horde burns American flags while carrying theirs while declaring themselves 'warriors'.
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Is this the same group of unarmed troops that were sent down to the border months ago and we found out they were being used for paperwork?

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A lot of people that are going to be voting over the next week or two would probably appreciate the reassurance that our borders will not be allowed to be breached by these invaders.  It's not just me, IOW.  Trump would be helping the GOP by giving that reassurance.   I also think it would be "nice" if Congress passed an emergency bill eliminating that asinine "Catch and Release" law.

I think the President has been clear about his intentions, if not his plans of execution.

As for Congress passing an emergency bill eliminating "Catch and Release"..... this will depend on the outcome of the election in 14 days.

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I can't believe someone here is arguing that we don't need to know what the strategy to use the military and defend the border is.  We damn sure deserve, need and have a right to know what the plan is.  What the hell kind of argument is that?

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Is this the same group of unarmed troops that were sent down to the border months ago and we found out they were being used for paperwork?

The article states something like that. 
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Exactly.  If they think unarmed National Guard is going to stop the army headed toward us they are crazy.  Why would it be any different than what happened at the Mexican border?

Now I know whey Trump didn't declare a state of emergency.  No need its going to be the big beautiful door.

I have FOX news and have been watching.  Bunch of sympathetic idiots.  Poor immigrants with sore feet.

Yeah, cry me a river, Fox.   It's not like they're being force-marched by a federal government like my ancestors were.  They CHOSE to make that trek.  Knowing full well that they were not welcome.
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I think the President has been clear about his intentions, if not his plans of execution.

As for Congress passing an emergency bill eliminating "Catch and Release"..... this will depend on the outcome of the election in 14 days.

Not to worry...the caravan will be here before that.   :whistle:
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I can't believe someone here is arguing that we don't need to know what the strategy to use the military and defend the border is.  We damn sure deserve, need and have a right to know what the plan is.  What the hell kind of argument is that?

The kind that trusts the government, as long as it's "our" side.

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I think the President has been clear about his intentions, if not his plans of execution.

As for Congress passing an emergency bill eliminating "Catch and Release"..... this will depend on the outcome of the election in 14 days.

Which goes right back to my point.... that the early voters would like to know for sure how their vote giving majority control back to the GOP will be justified ....by Trump following through on what he has stated about declaring a national emergency and sending in the US Military (not just the National Guard).  This election is crucial and that reassurance right about now is, as well.

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The kind that trusts the government, as long as it's "our" side.

Yep.

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Which goes right back to my point.... that the early voters would like to know for sure how their vote giving majority control back to the GOP will be justified ....by Trump following through on what he has stated about declaring a national emergency and sending in the US Military (not just the National Guard).  This election is crucial and that reassurance right about now is, as well.

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I understand you.  If this ends up being "National Guard" then this is all bullshit that loses Trump points.

I still hold out hope that the hurricane and TS will help with this.   wink777

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Which goes right back to my point.... that the early voters would like to know for sure how their vote giving majority control back to the GOP will be justified ....by Trump following through on what he has stated about declaring a national emergency and sending in the US Military (not just the National Guard).  This election is crucial and that reassurance right about now is, as well.

Okay.

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Not to worry...the caravan will be here before that.   :whistle:

Actually, the "caravan" is a month from our border.

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I still hold out hope that the hurricane and TS will help with this.   wink777

Help us all with some Divine Intervention. 

I actually feel sorry for many of them.  They have no idea what's coming. **nononono*
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It’s not @INVAR ‘s job to figure out the solution. It’s the president’s, and if he can’t it’s his job to consult only the best people that he bragged about hiring.

It's also not @INVAR 's job to disparage and diminish the planning underway without knowing what it is @goodwithagun 

Maybe he could use his powers for good?

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Help us all with some Divine Intervention. 

I actually feel sorry for many of them.  They have no idea what's coming. **nononono*

I tip my hate to your compassion.  I've been watching and listening to them and I don't give a rats ass about what they're about to face.   888mouth

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It's also not @INVAR 's job to disparage and diminish the planning underway without knowing what it is @goodwithagun 

Maybe he could use his powers for good?

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Actually, the "caravan" is a month from our border.

Even more.  The trucks and trains they expect to speed them along are not going to be there this time  No amount of Soros money can fix that. 
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