2,100 mostly unarmed Guard troops on border as Trump vows to send more to stop migrant caravan

[libertybele]

Question:
Trump has threatened Honduras with cutting off aid.

What do we expect Honduras to do?  Build a Berlin-style wall to prevent its people from leaving??


I know the US has picked up where the commies left off, now fining our citizens thousands of dollars to leave, but is this really the type of tyranny we want to export?

@Suppressed that was nothing more than lip service to make it look like he's actually doing something.  He knows darn well, that withholding funding isn't going to prevent more from coming nor will it have an affect on those already on their way here.

[jpsb]

@Suppressed that was nothing more than lip service to make it look like he's actually doing something.  He knows darn well, that withholding funding isn't going to prevent more from coming nor will it have an affect on those already on their way here.

Oh really?

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Guatemala: Police block 1,600 Honduran migrants at border

[Emjay]

  is right.

RA or nothing.  We need guys with bullets under Regular Army rules.  This half-assed shit is how we got here.

It's a complicated issue which Trump is trying to solve in a better way than shooting unarmed people.

What really annoys me is how the NTers among us seem to want bad things to happen if they can only blame Trump for them.

[INVAR]

Oh really?

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Guatemala: Police block 1,600 Honduran migrants at border

That is just wave 3.

Waves 1 and 2 are already in Mexico marching North.

[Emjay]

Do folks here really believe we are going to open fire on unarmed people that will include women and children at the front of the line?

Do folks here really want us to?

I'm sure military strategists have thought this through more clearly than I, but we can do plenty short of this.  Off the top of my head, we can create a buffer zone in Mexico and implement, without judicial interference, catch and return.

We have water cannons, tear gas and sonic music, too.  We have enough military trucks and/or aircraft with military personnel to take them back to Guatamala.

But use live bullets?  No.  We are not going to do that.

Of course, we cannot do that @Right_in_Virginia.  It will be solved and peacefully but not before every NTer here blames Trump for not waving a magic wand.

I am thoroughly disgusted with the NTers here.  This is the worst example yet of those people seeming to want a disaster to happen if it will discredit Trump.  Bah, humbug.

[Emjay]

I'm not convinced military strategy needs to be advertised, even if you think it would be nice.

It is also amazing how many people want Trump to e-mail his exact plans to them.

[Emjay]

I can't believe someone here is arguing that we don't need to know what the strategy to use the military and defend the border is.  We damn sure deserve, need and have a right to know what the plan is.  What the hell kind of argument is that?

Are you mad at Roosevelt for not disclosing the D-Day plans?

[Sanguine]

Are you mad at Roosevelt for not disclosing the D-Day plans?

Don't be deliberately obtuse.  I do want to know what he plans to do.  I don't need the exact details or timelines, but, yes, as a citizen of this nation I do want to know that he will appropriately address the situation.

[XenaLee]

Don't be deliberately obtuse.  I do want to know what he plans to do.  I don't need the exact details or timelines, but, yes, as a citizen of this nation I do want to know that he will appropriately address the situation.

But noooo.  We're supposed to have blind faith (the same as his loyal supporters has) that he will follow through with this, just like he did re: the wall.

Oh wait....

[Sanguine]

But noooo.  We're supposed to have blind faith (the same as his loyal supporters has) that he will follow through with this, just like he did re: the wall.

Oh wait....

Yeah, I don't get it.   

[Emjay]

Don't be deliberately obtuse.  I do want to know what he plans to do.  I don't need the exact details or timelines, but, yes, as a citizen of this nation I do want to know that he will appropriately address the situation.

That is just unrealistic @Sanguine .  He has already said they won't get in.  There are a lot of options that don't involve opening machine gun fire on unarmed people.  They are being discussed as we speak.  But, sorry, you are not included in those discussions.

[XenaLee]

That is just unrealistic @Sanguine .  He has already said they won't get in.  There are a lot of options that don't involve opening machine gun fire on unarmed people.  They are being discussed as we speak.  But, sorry, you are not included in those discussions.

Current stats are.... over 390,000 illegals have already "gotten in" this year alone.  You really think we believe he's going to magically stop another 5-7,000 at the border now?  I'll believe it ONLY if/when I see it.

[INVAR]

Current stats are.... over 390,000 illegals have already "gotten in" this year alone.  You really think we believe he's going to magically stop another 5-7,000 at the border now?  I'll believe it ONLY if/when I see it.

You are not going to 'see' shit, except what the media is going to portray this all as.  Then, you will HEAR about how we are a compassionate country and that this invasion army is going to be let in, processed and evaluated.  That big fat, beautiful door Trump said he was going to put in the middle of his wall - is going to be the only thing that will be a legacy to it.  It is becoming obvious that we will continue to have open borders to a welfare state.

So we will be plundered from within.  And that is the entire idea by those who orchestrated both the European refugee crisis and now this one.

[DCPatriot]

It's a complicated issue which Trump is trying to solve in a better way than shooting unarmed people.

What really annoys me is how the NTers among us seem to want bad things to happen if they can only blame Trump for them.

My son, while stationed in Germany, guarded the perimeter carrying an unloaded weapon...and he carried no ammunition. 

Why risk an international incident?   Not every American soldier is Sly Stallone.

Nope....they're going to be doused with skunk water and they'll disperse...and given plenty of warning to keep small children away danger of being crushed.

[XenaLee]

You are not going to 'see' shit, except what the media is going to portray this all as.  Then, you will HEAR about how we are a compassionate country and that this invasion army is going to be let in, processed and evaluated.  That big fat, beautiful door Trump said he was going to put in the middle of his wall - is going to be the only thing that will be a legacy to it.  It is becoming obvious that we will continue to have open borders to a welfare state.

So we will be plundered from within.  And that is the entire idea by those who orchestrated both the European refugee crisis and now this one.

I keep seeing Trump on tv answering questions with his arms crossed, in defensive posture.  I think I'm finally starting to 'get it'.  The body language speaks for itself.

[DCPatriot]

Why should that bother or worry you, who have declared people like me 'irrelevant'????

I use my 'powers' for the proclamation of the truth.

Something you have illustrated that you despise and will ridicule with impunity.

[XenaLee]

Lol!  Kinda looks like you're speaking from experience there.  Thanks for sharing.  It explains a lot.   

[DCPatriot]

Lol!  Kinda looks like you're speaking from experience there.  Thanks for sharing.  It explains a lot.   

Are you Invar's wife?  Sister?  Mother?   

PS:  And just so you know...if I win the Powerball tonight many members in here are going to be instant millionaires.  YOU are not one of them.     

[XenaLee]

Are you Invar's wife?  Sister?  Mother?   

Who do I have to be?

PS:  And just so you know...if I win the Powerball tonight many members in here are going to be instant millionaires.  YOU are not one of them.     

You won't win.  You never do. 

[Suppressed]

Oh really?

@jpsb

So, you believe Honduran police invaded Guatemala and prevented Hondurans from leaving?

Truly Trumpian.

[DCPatriot]

You won't win.  You never do.

LOL!  I'll match my political acumen in terms of predictions and prognostications with anybody in this house.

You, OTOH.......     

[XenaLee]

LOL!  I'll match my political acumen in terms of predictions and prognostications with anybody in this house.

You, OTOH.......     

Of course you will.  Such arrogance.  Such a 'hoisted on your own petard' attitude.  And such a level of superiority, as you look down your nose at those you disagree with.  Kind of reminds me of a certain political group of people I've been observing for over 20 years.   

[DCPatriot]

Of course you will.  Such arrogance.  Such a 'hoisted on your own petard' attitude.  And such a level of superiority, as you look down your nose at those you disagree with.  Kind of reminds me of a certain political group of people I've been observing for over 20 years.   

I responded to your assertion that I "..never win".

And this was your response for all to see.   You know you're my b*tch now, don't you?



@mystery-ak   

[XenaLee]

I responded to your assertion that I "..never win".

And this was your response for all to see.   You know you're my b*tch now, don't you?



@mystery-ak

You keep calling me a/your bitch, which only shows and clearly illustrates for all to see what you are.   You realize that, don't you (fat chance)?

[XenaLee]

And by the way..... can any one of you avid Trump supporters here point me to where "the wall" is being constructed and how much of it has been completed?  Any photos of that progress.... ANYWHERE?  Just curious... since I can't seem to find proof that any of it has been built, two years (already) in.