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Ok.  He's a declared a national emergency. Please enlighten me as to what this means??  I honestly don't know.  Anyone?

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The White House web site does not show President Trump has declared a national emergency or any other official action related to the caravan.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/
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@libertybele @skeeter

The White House web site does not show President Trump has declared a national emergency or any other official action related to the caravan.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

No, he has not.  Like everything else - it's all theater for consumption by the audience he has targeted.  Nothing of substance beyond words and acting.
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No, he has not.  Like everything else - it's all theater for consumption by the audience he has targeted.  Nothing of substance beyond words and acting.

It's the news media that is milking this....covering it 24/7.

Why blame President Trump today?

You know damned well he says what he means.  He's sending the military.  They could be there fully prepared in 96 hours.

If the 'rumors' are true, there will be tens of thousands of Mexicans and others from other continents meeting this mob at the border.

I predict many deaths.  Perhaps even several hundred.   

The media must be pulled away from the border.  GTFO.

If Obama and Hillary could bomb the shit out of Libya for more than EIGHT MONTHS wihout a single Reuters or AP photo or video, then they can be physically removed from the border.
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It's the news media that is milking this....covering it 24/7.

Why blame President Trump today?

Not 'blaming Trump'.  But all we have so far, as this invasion army heads North - is talk.  Trump could actually declare a national emergency, close and militarize the border - all he has done is talk about it.

He's sending the military.  They could be there fully prepared in 96 hours.

Well apparently Trump fans have created 'fake news' to say that he has already done that and mobilized units out of Bragg and armored divisions out of Texas - but that turned out to be bullshit that Trump's fanbase online created.  At this writing, all we have is tweets and talk, nothing more.

If the 'rumors' are true, there will be tens of thousands of Mexicans and others from other continents meeting this mob at the border.

Given. The video and pics of the invasion army being paid, then marched, then plundering towns for provisions and then being driven by semi tell the story.

If Obama and Hillary could bomb the shit out of Libya for more than EIGHT MONTHS wihout a single Reuters or AP photo or video, then they can be physically removed from the border.

We will see if Trump actually has the stones to do that, but I will remind you that Mexico will invite them over to film everything from the other side for propaganda purposes.

And the media will eagerly come and assist.
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FOX news contributor Sara Carter is with the caravan.
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Guatemalan intelligence discovered people from India, Bangladesh, Africa had also joined in with the caravan -I bumped into a number of young MS 13 gang members. @JudicialWatch Chris Farrell and Guatemalan Secretary of Strategic Intelligence Mario Duarte on the border w/ me
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Judicial Watch  Verified account @JudicialWatch

NEW: Judicial Watch is covering the caravan crisis from the Guatemalan-Honduran border this week & observed that the popular mainstream media narrative of desperate migrants — many of them women & children seeking a better life — is hardly accurate.
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Young Angry Men & Gangbangers March Towards U.S. Yelling “Vamos Para Allá Trump!”
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Besides gang members and mobs of young angry men, the Central American caravan making its way into the United States also consists of Africans, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and Indians. Judicial Watch is covering the crisis from the Guatemalan-Honduran border this week and observed that the popular mainstream media narrative of desperate migrants—many of them women and children—seeking a better life is hardly accurate. Guatemalan intelligence officials confirmed that the caravan that originated in the northern Honduran city of San Pedro Sula includes a multitude of Special Interest Aliens (SIA) from the countries listed above as well as other criminal elements and gang members.

There are also large groups of men, some with criminal histories, aggressively demanding that the U.S. take them in. During a visit to the Guatemalan town of Chiquimula, about 35 miles from the Honduran border, Judicial Watch encountered a rowdy group of about 600 men, ages 17 to about 40, marching north on a narrow two-lane highway. Among them was a 40-year-old Honduran man who previously lived in the United States for decades and got deported. His English was quite good, and he said his kids and girlfriend live in the U.S. Another man in his 30s contradicted media reports that caravan participants are fleeing violence and fear for their life. “We’re not scared,” he said waving his index finger as others around him nodded in agreement. “We’re going to the United States to get jobs.” Others chanted “vamos para allá Trump!” (We’re coming Trump) as they clenched their fists in the air. “We need money and food,” said a 29-year-old man who made the trek with his 21-year-old brother.

All of the migrants interviewed by Judicial Watch repeated the same rehearsed line when asked who organized the caravan, insisting it was a spontaneous event even though there were clearly organizers shouting instructions in Spanish and putting select persons in front of cameras for interviews. A few claimed they heard about it on local news in Honduras. All of them said the caravan was not about politics but rather poverty. “I just want to get back to the U.S.,” said a 32-year-old man who admitted he has been deported from the U.S. twice. “We are all just looking for work.” The group radiated a sense of empowerment. One marcher, who appeared to be in his late teens, yelled “you go live in Honduras and see what it’s like!”

Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, a conservative, said in a local newspaper report that leftist interests seeking to destabilize the country are manipulating migrants.  Women and children are being used without regard to the risks to their lives, Hernández said. “The irregular mobilization was organized for political reasons to negatively affect the governance and image of Honduras and to destabilize the peace of neighboring countries,” the president said, adding that many have returned to the country after realizing they’ve been fooled.

Guatemala is overwhelmed with the sudden onslaught and immigration officials confirmed 1,700 migrants have been returned to Honduras on buses. The first wave of migrants totaled about 4,000, according to Guatemalan government sources, followed by a second, less organized group of about 2,000. The impoverished Central American nation needs help, including logistical, communications and civil affairs support to stop the human caravans. “There are only so many resources we can dedicate to this,” said Guatemalan Secretary of Strategic Intelligence Mario Duarte. Guatemalans are getting robbed and crimes are being committed by the people in the caravans, Duarte said.
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Yes.  They will.

You watch.

That is, if Trump even bothers to declare one beyond mere words and tweets.

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Yes.  They will.

You watch.

That is, if Trump even bothers to declare one beyond mere words and tweets.

If it is technically necessary to declare martial law with or without a formal declaration of a State of National Emergency distinct from the one that is already in place through 2019, then Trump will declare martial law.  Martial law, however, may not even be needed to protect the border against foreign incursions.  Whatever he does, with or without "martial law" is likely to be challenged by a federal judge from Hawaii (LOL). 

I believe that the corruption of our federal courts at this critical point in American history is the main reason why Trump wanted Kavanaugh confirmed to the SCOTUS BEFORE the November election.  I am pretty sure Trump did not specifically anticipate the Central American Caravan, but I'll bet he is not terribly surprised. 

I assume that Trump assumes that the Caravan is a Global Socialist attempt to trigger insurrection inside the U.S. in the time frame of the election.  (I think we can assume that whatever Trump does in defense of the border will be characterized by the MSM as illegal and inhumane.  The libs will be hoping for deaths of immigrants--which will be extremely inflammatory to groups like Antifa.  A massive domestic insurrection would/will, in turn, trigger martial law, I think--arguably under the existing State of National Emergency [December, 2017].)

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@libertybele @skeeter

The White House web site does not show President Trump has declared a national emergency or any other official action related to the caravan.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

Right.  The existing State of National Emergency, published by EO in December of 2017 (expiring at the end of 2019, as I recall), does not specifically anticipate the Caravan.

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Speaking of mere words, why aren't you heading down to wash the migrants' feet?@INVAR

I go to the nations in poverty to wash their feet there.

I don't wash the feet of invaders to welcome them in to take what does not belong to them.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775