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Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« on: October 14, 2018, 03:35:18 pm »
Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
Twitchy, Oct 13, 2018

Beto O’Rourke, the Senate candidate so cool that he rode a skateboard on stage at his rally Saturday in Corpus Christi, is looking more and more like John Ossoff 2.0. Hollywood’s favorite Texan is still down by about 9 points against incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz, where he’s been hovering for a while. And now it looks like Democrats are having second thoughts about burning all their campaign money in one place.

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That might as well be the New York Times saying that, but it’s actually a quote from Democrat strategist Matthew Miller:
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It’s great that O’Rourke has inspired so many people and raised so much money, and if he can spend it all effectively in Texas, he is well within his rights to do so,” said Matthew Miller, a veteran Democratic strategist and Texas native. “But he could have a huge impact for the party by sharing some of it with the D.S.C.C. so it could be spent in states where candidates just need a little extra to get over the hump.

“It will be bad for everyone, Beto included, if he finishes his race with money in the bank when that money could’ve helped elect Democrats in Missouri, Tennessee or North Dakota,” Mr. Miller added.

The Times reports that O’Rourke has raised $38 million in the last three months alone, which is certainly impressive, but some of that is coming in from grassroots supporters in states that also have competitive races and where the candidates could use some assistance.


More:  https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/13/second-thoughts-democrats-starting-to-regret-burning-millions-of-dollars-on-just-beto-orourke/
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 03:39:32 pm »
I'm not sure I believe that Beto raised much money for himself and by himself.

I think most of his money came from Soros and the dem establishment that would love to defeat a powerful Republican Senator in a blue state.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 04:04:35 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on October 14, 2018, 03:39:32 pm
I'm not sure I believe that Beto raised much money for himself and by himself.

I think most of his money came from Soros and the dem establishment that would love to defeat a powerful Republican Senator in a blue state.

Most of the money was from out of state. Some of it was from the Communist Party as noted on their website. And the FEC is investigating his illegal foreign donations as well.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 04:29:29 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on October 14, 2018, 03:39:32 pm
I'm not sure I believe that Beto raised much money for himself and by himself.

I think most of his money came from Soros and the dem establishment that would love to defeat a powerful Republican Senator in a blue state.

Beto knew he wasn't going to win a state-wide election in Texas.  He just wanted to launch himself as a national candidate, and become the darling of the hipster crowd.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2018, 10:03:22 pm »
I'm glad the Dems pi**ed away the money in Texas. When Beto loses, I don't see how we can be President.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2018, 10:48:19 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on October 14, 2018, 04:29:29 pm
Beto knew he wasn't going to win a state-wide election in Texas.  He just wanted to launch himself as a national candidate, and become the darling of the hipster crowd.

I'm not sure failing a state wide election launches a national campaign, but Trump got elected so what do I know?
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2018, 10:52:22 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on October 14, 2018, 03:39:32 pm
I'm not sure I believe that Beto raised much money for himself and by himself.

I think most of his money came from Soros and the dem establishment that would love to defeat a powerful Republican Senator in a blue state.

$38M in a quarter is unprecedented fundraising for a Senate race. You can't do that with $5 and $10 donations. The timing alone is suspicious with all that money coming in when TV political ad season heats up. That's the biggest tell it's outside money.

Two problems with that much money, one already alluded to, in that it sucks money from more needing candidates to the big white elephant, hurting the down ticket.

The other is that there is only so much TV and radio time that can be bought, while too much print and mailers will cause people's eyes to glaze over, and armies of volunteers beating down doors will eventually tick people off.

I'm wondering if Beto hasn't completely oversaturated his market and driving people the other way.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 11:03:37 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on October 14, 2018, 10:48:19 pm
I'm not sure failing a state wide election launches a national campaign, but Trump got elected so what do I know?

Exactly.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2018, 11:13:59 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 14, 2018, 11:03:37 pm
Exactly.
Do you want to talk about candidates or me?
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2018, 11:31:58 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on October 14, 2018, 11:13:59 pm
Do you want to talk about candidates or me?

Oh, I'll let you decide.  Go for it.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2018, 11:58:20 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 14, 2018, 11:31:58 pm
Oh, I'll let you decide.  Go for it.

I would feel much better for all our sakes if you could focus your attention on the candidates.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 02:31:23 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on October 14, 2018, 10:52:22 pm
$38M in a quarter is unprecedented fundraising for a Senate race. You can't do that with $5 and $10 donations. The timing alone is suspicious with all that money coming in when TV political ad season heats up. That's the biggest tell it's outside money.

I'm seeing the same thing in AZ.  AFSCME is pouring huge media money into Sinema's campaign.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2018, 02:40:25 am »
So long as they lose.

Burn it all.

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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2018, 06:03:37 am »
Quote from: dfwgator on October 14, 2018, 04:29:29 pm
Beto knew he wasn't going to win a state-wide election in Texas.  He just wanted to launch himself as a national candidate, and become the darling of the hipster crowd.

He doesn't have a chance at that ... they already have Spartacus.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2018, 12:14:41 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on October 15, 2018, 06:03:37 am
He doesn't have a chance at that ... they already have Spartacus.
They'll always need a VP nominee.
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2018, 01:10:42 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on October 14, 2018, 10:03:22 pm
I'm glad the Dems pi**ed away the money in Texas. When Beto loses, I don't see how we can be President.

$38 million can buy a lot of t-shirts. I saw dozens of people wearing Beto themed t-shirts at the State Fair yesterday. Nothing says "I'm a dumb ass" like wearing a Beto t-shirt.

IMO, the more people see Beto, the less they like him. The truth has come out about his wealthy family and unsavory connections. Having a land developer as a father in law is not a plus for him. They generally have a bad name in West Texas, due to lax enforcement of regulations.

ETA: I was proud of my 8 YO grandson for not making any derisive comments about the Beto supporters. We're totally a Cruz family. He did strike a blow against militant feminism, when he decisively defeated a girl in a competition at one of the Ford truck displays. He was just too athletic for her in the event.  lolol
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2018, 11:25:43 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on October 15, 2018, 12:14:41 pm
They'll always need a VP nominee.

Hey, got your dream ticket right here:  Spartacus and Beto. 
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Re: Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 01:05:11 am »
Second thoughts? Democrats starting to regret burning millions of dollars on just Beto O’Rourke

No!
Don't stop!
Throw some more money in and keep those flames (and cash) a-burnin' !!
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