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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2018, 03:17:02 pm »
She has political aspirations IMO.

Yes, she does. No doubt she is being courted by the DNC since so many other democrats have made such over the top statements. I don't believe a word out of her mouth. A political move.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2018, 03:18:26 pm »
That theory would rely on her being (or having become) self-aware.  Remember, this is the same person that publicly said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."   I just don't think she's bright enough to have had that epiphany.

Nah -- it's not self-awareness.  Michelle Obama knows that her husband won in large part by appealing to some independents and even squishy Republicans as a "nice" Democrat.  Heitkamp is watching her poll numbers tank as we speak, and also has come out against Hillary Clinton on this issue.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-senator-heitkamp-slams-clinton-call-to-abandon-civility-with-gop/ar-BBOdOvf

We don't have to assume that either of them is virtuous -- just that they can read the same polls as can everyone else, and know that this is backfiring on Democrats.  That's why the GOP is running ads emphasizing all these Democrats who are inciting mobs -- it's a gift from Democrats handing the GOP an issue.

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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2018, 04:43:17 pm »
Nah -- it's not self-awareness.  Michelle Obama knows that her husband won in large part by appealing to some independents and even squishy Republicans as a "nice" Democrat.  Heitkamp is watching her poll numbers tank as we speak, and also has come out against Hillary Clinton on this issue.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-senator-heitkamp-slams-clinton-call-to-abandon-civility-with-gop/ar-BBOdOvf

We don't have to assume that either of them is virtuous -- just that they can read the same polls as can everyone else, and know that this is backfiring on Democrats.  That's why the GOP is running ads emphasizing all these Democrats who are inciting mobs -- it's a gift from Democrats handing the GOP an issue.

I've been wondering what Michelle would do and I now think she was waiting for a good opening and she found one.  She is probably the best bet the democrats have, and she would be more formidable than I would like.  The media loved her and kept trying to tell us she she was attractive and well-dressed ... apparently forgetting that we can see for ourselves.

She would be a hellish nightmare.  Obama 2.0 but with a more energetic person at the helm.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2018, 05:27:48 pm »
You people who are falling for this nonsense and applauding her are idiots. Hell,calling you idiots is bragging on you because you just aren't that smart. I have no doubt some of you dingbats would even vote for her over Trump in 2020 if she gets the nomination,and if she does run,she WILL get the Dim nomination because she will unite the non-white voters and the kneejerk white guilt voters. Otherwise,most of those people are as likely to stay home as they are to go vote.

Obomber's handlers have been whispering into her ear about a plan they have developed to get her and Bathhouse Barry back into the off-white house,and there is no way she is going to pass on that opportunity.

It will be a return of the Soros Presidency of Bathhouse Barry,and once again we will have a president no one can criticize without being called a racist as well as a sexist.

She made a statement that correctly shut up Clinton and Holder.  She was right.  Not heaping praise on her at all.  I think she'll run and the left will go ga ga over her.   

Return of Soros?  Soros never left; he is entrenched in our society as his kids run all of his global elitist foundations.

If the #NT are that ignorant to vote for her ... that's on them and not a whole lot either you or I can do.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2018, 10:09:23 pm »
That theory would rely on her being (or having become) self-aware.  Remember, this is the same person that publicly said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."   I just don't think she's bright enough to have had that epiphany.
Maybe she is "reinventing" her image. One of the subtleties of being Barry's FLOTUS was not upstaging him in matters of State. I'm sure that took an effort, even for her. If She is tapped to run, though, the gloves are off and she can make choom boy look like an idiot (with help from the handlers, of course), planting the seed of thought that if you liked Barry (and many did), she will be SO much better.
A makeover, some decent clothes that don't look like they were made from material salvaged from drapes or breezeway furniture form the 60s, and some charm school work (much already done by coaches in the party, protocol office and the press) and she'd be polished enough to swing a chunk of the vote. Add in the BFF (Black Female Factor) and genuine 'minority status' (as opposed to Fauxcahontas' shaky claim to being "Indian", and she'd be a superior candidate for the candidacy.
Considering the white liberals are often the holdover peaceniks and/or philosophical and/or physical progeny of the whole 'antiwar' movement, her positioning herself as the "peacemaker" might attract a contingent of gray ponytails who might not otherwise vote with her, would appeal to the woman's vote sector of the Liberal faction, and carry the minorities, with the Latino community being the one wild card, likely appeased by immigration policy (not counting what I believe is a growing fraction converted to conservatism, capitalism, and the idea that truly being able to make your own way and keep most of the proceeds is a good idea).
The 'kids' she played to in commercials on the Disney Channel will be able to vote, if not in this election, in the next (2024) and this may well be positioning for the ticket.
Who else do the Dems have?
An aging white Socialist running on "free stuff".
A person who may well have fraudulently claimed minority status to get into college and gain other perks?
Schumer? > SPIT! < Pelosi? (return of the Mummy) Feinstein? (the 'give up your guns' lady?)
"Foreigner" Biden (with Russian hands and Roman Fingers), especially on the young pretties? After the Moore and Kavanaugh gambits, how would that play?
An assortment of also-rans and people who would barely carry their home districts?

No, they need to groom someone and quick.
She is the likely best positioned in the herd.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2018, 10:16:09 pm »
Maybe she is "reinventing" her image. One of the subtleties of being Barry's FLOTUS was not upstaging him in matters of State. I'm sure that took an effort, even for her. If She is tapped to run, though, the gloves are off and she can make choom boy look like an idiot (with help from the handlers, of course), planting the seed of thought that if you liked Barry (and many did), she will be SO much better.
A makeover, some decent clothes that don't look like they were made from material salvaged from drapes or breezeway furniture form the 60s, and some charm school work (much already done by coaches in the party, protocol office and the press) and she'd be polished enough to swing a chunk of the vote. Add in the BFF (Black Female Factor) and genuine 'minority status' (as opposed to Fauxcahontas' shaky claim to being "Indian", and she'd be a superior candidate for the candidacy.
Considering the white liberals are often the holdover peaceniks and/or philosophical and/or physical progeny of the whole 'antiwar' movement, her positioning herself as the "peacemaker" might attract a contingent of gray ponytails who might not otherwise vote with her, would appeal to the woman's vote sector of the Liberal faction, and carry the minorities, with the Latino community being the one wild card, likely appeased by immigration policy (not counting what I believe is a growing fraction converted to conservatism, capitalism, and the idea that truly being able to make your own way and keep most of the proceeds is a good idea).
The 'kids' she played to in commercials on the Disney Channel will be able to vote, if not in this election, in the next (2024) and this may well be positioning for the ticket.
Who else do the Dems have?
An aging white Socialist running on "free stuff".
A person who may well have fraudulently claimed minority status to get into college and gain other perks?
Schumer? > SPIT! < Pelosi? (return of the Mummy) Feinstein? (the 'give up your guns' lady?)
"Foreigner" Biden (with Russian hands and Roman Fingers), especially on the young pretties? After the Moore and Kavanaugh gambits, how would that play?
An assortment of also-rans and people who would barely carry their home districts?

No, they need to groom someone and quick.
She is the likely best positioned in the herd.

Probably so.  I just hope that by 2020 the economy is doing so well that even the wishy washy fence-sitters won't want to take a chance on going back to that dismal Democrat-instigated GDP and unemployment miasma that Barry stuck us with.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2018, 10:30:44 pm »
You people who are falling for this nonsense and applauding her are idiots. Hell,calling you idiots is bragging on you because you just aren't that smart. I have no doubt some of you dingbats would even vote for her over Trump in 2020 if she gets the nomination,and if she does run,she WILL get the Dim nomination because she will unite the non-white voters and the kneejerk white guilt voters. Otherwise,most of those people are as likely to stay home as they are to go vote.
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Seriously? Vote for the Mooch?

Let me put it this way.
If I voted for a third party Candidate over Trump, as the slightly better thing to not voting because there was no "none of the above" option, still fully understanding he's have this state's electoral votes by a very safe margin, what in God's green Earth makes you think I'd ever vote for Michelle Obama?  You're eastbound in the westbound lanes on that one, pete. Most of those Conservatives who didn't vote for Trump found him too close to the Democrats to vote for, if not in ideology, then in methodology, because sometimes it matters how you got the 'win'.
That's the problem with the inside/outside mentality. It just sees 'enemies' and not that the people who wouldn't paint gray lane lines on the road would not do so, not because black lines are better, but because gray isn't light enough.

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Obomber's handlers have been whispering into her ear about a plan they have developed to get her and Bathhouse Barry back into the off-white house,and there is no way she is going to pass on that opportunity.

It will be a return of the Soros Presidency of Bathhouse Barry,and once again we will have a president no one can criticize without being called a racist as well as a sexist.

What else do they have? Like I said earlier, she has the Female thing, the Minority thing, the exposure and recognition that came from a decade of the media (and school system) fawning over her and doing sales on the public. She did kid outreach as FLOTUS, ads on Disney Channel, and those kids will be able to vote in 2024.

Unless they whip some wunderkind out of the hat, she is all they have to groom on short notice. Prediction two: Chelsea will get tapped for the veep slot to pull out the first all female ticket (and keep the Soros ties close and the Clintons in the game).
They will have the usual talking points, estrogen, and minority angst to sell, and the usual suspects will buy it.

The only question is one of whether the trainloads of 'poor children' imported in droves will be enough to sway the Latino community to go with her or whether that will backfire.
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