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Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« on: September 28, 2018, 04:46:55 pm »
The occasion was the totally unnecessary session of testimony by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his main accuser of sexual misbehavior, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. The occasion was needless because Dr. Ford’s story in no way rises to the level of credibility to dislodge the nomination. No decent society smears people for life based on high school misbehavior, so even if the wholly unsupported story were true, there would have been a strong argument against its relevancy today.

...Compactly contained within one day witnessed by millions, we saw Democrat behavior so unhinged and repulsive that Republicans finally came out of their shells and called them on it. It was glorious.

The confirmation of Kavanaugh is now a moral necessity—so that a good man’s reputation can be restored, rules of basic decency upheld, and viciously craven political tactics dealt the death blow they deserve.

https://townhall.com/columnists/markdavis/2018/09/28/untitled-n2523392

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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 04:48:09 pm »
It should never have come to this. I just pray that all Pubs keep reminding the American people how sleazy the left is.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 06:50:45 pm »
That dog and pony show put on is going to bite Democrats in the butt.   From here on out anyone nominated by the Democrats is going to be scrutinized from head to toe.  His or her behavior from junior high through adulthood will be fully examined.  The shoe will be awfully tight when it is on the other foot.

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2018, 07:17:07 pm »
That dog and pony show put on is going to bite Democrats in the butt.   From here on out anyone nominated by the Democrats is going to be scrutinized from head to toe.  His or her behavior from junior high through adulthood will be fully examined.  The shoe will be awfully tight when it is on the other foot.

I wish your sentiments were true, but I don't think so. The Pubs always want to take the "high road". What's even worse is the Rats keep doing this crap because it works. Flake just flaked out. Now watch the other weaklings in the Pub party fall in line with him and everything will get pushed back for another week. By the end of next week a bunch of new allegations will be made and/or Ford will file charges, then Kavanaugh can't be confirmed because there are pending charges.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2018, 09:08:57 pm »

The confirmation of Kavanaugh is now a moral necessity—so that a good man’s reputation can be restored, rules of basic decency upheld, and viciously craven political tactics dealt the death blow they deserve.


That statement completely overlooks the MAIN reason why we need to win the fight for Kavanaugh--which happens to be the MAIN reason why the Dems have been so desperately, viciously opposing Kavanaugh. 

Kavanaugh apparently endorses martial law and military prosecutions of civilians for sedition and treason under a declared State of National Emergency (and likely would endorse a Presidential EO mandating voter picture IDs and ordering the use of military police at polling places during the upcoming November election).  Having a solidly conservative majority on the SCOTUS is critically important for the looming wave of high profile arrests of Deep State conspirators against the Republic--which arrests are almost certainly scheduled to occur before November. 

Assuming Trump gets a good nominee confirmed in the next week or so, the Democrats are doomed.  Many will "hang by nooses," as HRC herself warned when Trump surged ahead on Election Night in 2016.  (That's the real "death blow" that needs to happen--and the Democrats know this, so they are literally fighting for their lives.)

In short, the War against the Deep State is a peculiarly military war against all enemies, foreign and domestic.  A solidly patriotic majority on the SCOTUS is apparently the final thing that needs to fall into place before POTUS nukes the Swamp.  (Draining the Swamp is the wrong metaphor--as recent behavior by the Radical Socialists demonstrates.)   

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2018, 10:46:47 pm »
The Democrats dug themselves a big hole, but Judas Flake rescued them at the last minute.  If the Republicans dump Kavanaugh, they will most certainly lose both houses of congress, and thousands of state and local races.  It would behoove the senate leaders AND Trump to apply pressure to the holdouts.

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2018, 11:24:39 pm »
That statement completely overlooks the MAIN reason why we need to win the fight for Kavanaugh--which happens to be the MAIN reason why the Dems have been so desperately, viciously opposing Kavanaugh. 

Kavanaugh apparently endorses martial law and military prosecutions of civilians for sedition and treason under a declared State of National Emergency (and likely would endorse a Presidential EO mandating voter picture IDs and ordering the use of military police at polling places during the upcoming November election).  Having a solidly conservative majority on the SCOTUS is critically important for the looming wave of high profile arrests of Deep State conspirators against the Republic--which arrests are almost certainly scheduled to occur before November. 

Assuming Trump gets a good nominee confirmed in the next week or so, the Democrats are doomed.  Many will "hang by nooses," as HRC herself warned when Trump surged ahead on Election Night in 2016.  (That's the real "death blow" that needs to happen--and the Democrats know this, so they are literally fighting for their lives.)

In short, the War against the Deep State is a peculiarly military war against all enemies, foreign and domestic.  A solidly patriotic majority on the SCOTUS is apparently the final thing that needs to fall into place before POTUS nukes the Swamp.  (Draining the Swamp is the wrong metaphor--as recent behavior by the Radical Socialists demonstrates.)

No offense, but that's crazy talk. We must win this fight politically and on moral grounds...if things were to turn violent or we were to start making politically retributive arrests...this country would no longer be the Shining City on the Hill. Like our Great Flag under siege at Fort McHenry, our city may be battered and torn but it still lives. What you are suggesting would be like a cure that kills the patient.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2018, 11:32:13 pm »
I don't know....   Seemed like a nightmare for our side this week. 

Words can not describe how despicable the democratic party has become.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2018, 11:48:25 pm »
No offense, but that's crazy talk. We must win this fight politically and on moral grounds...if things were to turn violent or we were to start making politically retributive arrests...this country would no longer be the Shining City on the Hill. Like our Great Flag under siege at Fort McHenry, our city may be battered and torn but it still lives. What you are suggesting would be like a cure that kills the patient.

We can discuss this further after you learn the charges of treason and sedition and murder leveled in the arrests that I am predicting. 

My point here is that the arrests that will not be just partisan political retribution. They will be a matter of necessary justice.   (Besides, the violence will start from the  murderous thugs of the "Resistance.") 

For that matter, some cures that nearly kill patients are dangerous surgeries that have to be performed to save the patients' lives.  Be of good cheer.  Our Republic's "surgeons" are very skilled--and of pretty high moral character compared to our population as a whole.

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2018, 12:13:45 am »
We can discuss this further after you learn the charges of treason and sedition and murder leveled in the arrests that I am predicting. 

My point here is that the arrests that will not be just partisan political retribution. They will be a matter of necessary justice.   (Besides, the violence will start from the  murderous thugs of the "Resistance.") 

For that matter, some cures that nearly kill patients are dangerous surgeries that have to be performed to save the patients' lives.  Be of good cheer.  Our Republic's "surgeons" are very skilled--and of pretty high moral character compared to our population as a whole.

Look, there are a few folks like McCabe and Comey who may face charges...though treason will not be one of them...but there is simply not going to be large scale arrests of prominent Dem politicians/leaders. Nor should there be, as it might lead to literal civil conflict...something no one should ever wish for. Conservatism can and will prevail without such extreme measures.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2018, 12:41:13 am »
Look, there are a few folks like McCabe and Comey who may face charges...though treason will not be one of them...but there is simply not going to be large scale arrests of prominent Dem politicians/leaders. Nor should there be, as it might lead to literal civil conflict...something no one should ever wish for. Conservatism can and will prevail without such extreme measures.

Wait and see.   I think you will be surprised to see how deep the conspiracy to destroy America--utterly destroy us--was in the run-up to the 2016 election and still is.

I am not wishing for literal civil conflict.  The military will not start the violence that is surely being already planned by the Communist thugs.  But the military will suppress that violence.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2018, 04:10:37 am »
Wait and see.   I think you will be surprised to see how deep the conspiracy to destroy America--utterly destroy us--was in the run-up to the 2016 election and still is.

I am not wishing for literal civil conflict.  The military will not start the violence that is surely being already planned by the Communist thugs.  But the military will suppress that violence.

Posse Comitatus says otherwise.

While I am fully aware of how deep the conspiracy against the President goes, it is a fantasy to think there will be the kind of broad round up of political opponents that you are claiming. Just my opinion, of course.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2018, 05:10:00 am »
It's all about the Benjamins.
Naive people actually send money to rich politicians because the politicians do what the naive people want them to.  Can you imagine what kind of donations the GOP would be getting if they Locked up Hitlery, Built the Wall, Repealed Obamacare, or Drained the Swamp.  I'm not a big fan of building a wall but Trump and the GOP campaigned on it so I couldn't really complain if they did what they said they would do.

I used to give money to the RNC, WISGOP, NRA, local candidates and some other republican organization.  I can't imagine why anyone, except the businesses that Trump protects with tariffs, would donate to either party.  The worst of humanity represents us.  Anybody with a conscience has already quit in frustration. JMO
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2018, 06:30:30 am »
Naive people actually send money to rich politicians because the politicians do what the naive people want them to.  Can you imagine what kind of donations the GOP would be getting if they Locked up Hitlery, Built the Wall, Repealed Obamacare, or Drained the Swamp.  I'm not a big fan of building a wall but Trump and the GOP campaigned on it so I couldn't really complain if they did what they said they would do.

I used to give money to the RNC, WISGOP, NRA, local candidates and some other republican organization.  I can't imagine why anyone, except the businesses that Trump protects with tariffs, would donate to either party.  The worst of humanity represents us.  Anybody with a conscience has already quit in frustration. JMO


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The rat argument next week will be Kavanaugh is unpopular with the American people and therefore should not be confirmed.

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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2018, 08:48:51 pm »
Posse Comitatus says otherwise.

While I am fully aware of how deep the conspiracy against the President goes, it is a fantasy to think there will be the kind of broad round up of political opponents that you are claiming. Just my opinion, of course.

The federal statute Posse Comitatus (enacted under Rutherford B. Hayes) was repealed (and, as I personally recall, quietly repealed) under George W. Bush in 2007, then reinstated in 2008, then tweaked by Obama in 2011.  And it turns out that the Insurrection Act of 1807 becomes important in applying or not applying Posse Comitatus.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The whole thing is a big mess, but see the section of the Wikipedia article about exclusions and limitations.

(It has been reported--and I cannot confirm this--that top military officers under Obama were forced to sign bizarre legal agreements--supposedly in accordance with existing federal statues--that they would be willing to fire on American citizens if ordered to do so.  [The agreement was supposedly used during Obama's purge of the military.  Some patriotic officers did sign it as legally proper;  others didn't--supposedly because of who the Commander-in-Chief was at that time.])

See also the questions posed by Graham and answered by Kavanaugh about military tribunals for treason.  This was actually one of the more important exchanges in the Senate's Confirmation Hearing.  I understand that Youtube has deleted the clip of the exchange between Graham and Kavanaugh.  (You can bet that Graham--a former military lawyer--knew the case law, and it is significant that he was perfectly happy with Kavanaugh's terse answers.)

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You disparaged the idea of a "round-up" of "political opponents."  I'm afraid that your spin showcases your confusion, my friend.  It's a manifestation of the boiling-frog confusion that has been patiently and deeply woven into the public mindset. 

My point here is that our "political opponents" are not just people who disagree--even vigorously disagree--with conservatives/Republicans.  (Their groundling supporters are like that, but the DNC is just using them as their useful idiots.)  Our "political opponents" operating the Democratic Socialist juggernaut certainly do disagree with conservative/Republicans, but it's precisely because we love America, whereas they actually hate America. 

I'm sure you have noticed that today's Democrat politicians are not like Harry Truman or JFK or Scoop Jackson, but I'm convinced that you haven't let the implications of that sink in:  our political opponents are the domestic minions of a massive global conspiracy to destroy the United States.  A respected college professor has intimidated to me that he and his ilk intend to seize my firearms and shoot me with them.  He said that he is confident that this will happen.  Why is he so confident?  Because these America-hating spiritual bastards (a Biblical word, of course) are everywhere in his enormous and powerful conspiratorial world.  Remember:  The Communist program for rotting our nation emphasized that controlling academia was crucial to destroying our Republic.  And we have finally reached a tipping point.  We are actually hanging  over an abyss of national disaster.

(Too-democratic polity has always been regarded as "the road to Socialism," but today's Democrat politicians are not merely socialistic goody-two-shoes.  The Democrats as a whole are much like today's Muslims:  some Muslims are just mild-mannered folks with odd religious notions.  Unfortunately, more and more of the Muslims--and more and more Democrats--have become RADICALIZED and risen to the very tops of their respective organizations.  This is why the power mongers of both Islam and the Democratic Party actually get along pretty well.  They will do everything in their power to destroy their common enemy.  Obama is the embodiment of this America-hating evil.)

In other words, that PhD professor was not exaggerating, Mesaclone--and it's the prevalence of people like him that accounts for so many like-minded politicos being elected--at the top of which structure are self-righteous, demon-infested murderers.  Haven't you noticed how vitriolically anti-Constitutional practically all the Democrat politicos are?  They are part of an evil plan.  And the very top of the plan is Agenda 21. 

Our nation's retributive justice against the obscenely malevolent phonies (masquerading as lovely "Progressives") will not be a matter of ramped-up politics as usual. As I have already intimated, the nature of the Deep State's conspiracy is that of an unseen WAR--a peculiar domestic subset of an existing shooting war stemming from 9-11--and this war will eventually and necessarily involve the U.S. military.  I submit that this is the real reason why the Deep State is so desperately trying to frame Kavanaugh.  They do know Kavanaugh's stance regarding military justice against civilians committing sedition and treason--and also realize that any delay in confirming Kavanaugh is buying them time to avoid a devastating October surprise--i.e., a tsunami of arrests and probably martial law enforcing voter integrity.  Trump will need to have a 5-to-4 majority on the SCOTUS for both of these.   

The delay in Kavanaugh's confirmation is likely the most important one of about four main reasons for Trump's delay in the public use of the military in opening thousands of still-sealed federal indictments.  I am pretty sure he is also waiting upon the public release of the mostly-unredacted FISA application;  the final DHS report to be publicly aired concerning election fraud; and (perhaps) a successful test of the Emergency Alert System (to be tested in October). 

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Finally, let me gently remind TBR members about the "Boiling Frog" phenomenon.  It is an insidious problem.

Now is not the time for normal political measures.  The "normal" mindset is a froggian complacency masquerading as a proper, calm, "In-God-We-Trust" confidence.  A more responsible, spiritually serious approach is needed in the providence of God.  And although I never voted for Trump--and I am not at all ashamed that I didn't--I am glad to see that our inarguably weird and often terribly crass President intends to put out the hellish fire that is still underneath us--and to drag our nation of dopey frogs out of what has become a heat-warped, leaky, and sadly un-Constitutional pot.

I am hopeful that this will buy us time for the spiritual revival that our nation needs--starting in our churches.      
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2018, 10:27:57 pm »
So far the Kavanaugh hearing is the GOP's worst nightmare; with now both Flake and Trump caving to the left.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 10:14:06 pm »
So far the Kavanaugh hearing is the GOP's worst nightmare; with now both Flake and Trump caving to the left.

Trump has done nothing but fight and fight...and he still is fighting. He's committed to Kavanaugh and doing everything humanly possible to support and push forward the nomination. He's doing what he must...allowing the FBI one week investigation...while appeasing the NeverTrumpers (Murk/Flak/Coll) so that they don't break from the party and vote against the  nomination. How you can say that the one man fighting harder than ANYONE else is caving is...well...utterly contrary to reality.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2018, 10:22:02 pm »
So far the Kavanaugh hearing is the GOP's worst nightmare; with now both Flake and Trump caving to the left.

What happened @libertybele ??  You are usually the sensible one.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2018, 10:31:10 pm »
Trump has done nothing but fight and fight...and he still is fighting. He's committed to Kavanaugh and doing everything humanly possible to support and push forward the nomination. He's doing what he must...allowing the FBI one week investigation...while appeasing the NeverTrumpers (Murk/Flak/Coll) so that they don't break from the party and vote against the  nomination. How you can say that the one man fighting harder than ANYONE else is caving is...well...utterly contrary to reality.

I agree with you except that I don't think that Trump was appeasing the NeverTrumpers.  McConnell and Cornyn did that.  (Maybe they felt they had to do it.)  The fact that Trump did go on to order the FBI to do the investigation has nothing to do with Trump appeasing anyone.  The Senate demanded the investigation, and a refusal on the part of Trump would simply create a quagmire that would be unacceptable on Trump's schedule.  As I said in my previous post, he still needs to have Kavanaugh installed on the SCOTUS well before he drops the hammer of what will be a legally controversial but Constitutional October Surprise.

Trump is aiming to destroy the virulently anti-American Democratic Socialists in November--not just have the GOP squeak by.  And I say it's about time for this.

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Perhaps @libertybele is actually just irked that Trump signed another bloated appropriations omnibus bill.  That worries even me a little bit, but there are bigger things to address at this time.  (BTW, Trump claims to have a plan to pay off the entire national debt before he leaves office.  I think it might even go back to his EO from last December.)


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Aside to libertybele:  I wouldn't say that Flake caved.  I don't think he was ever anything but a flake.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearing Was The Democrats' Worst Nightmare
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2018, 10:40:08 pm »
I agree with you except that I don't think that Trump was appeasing the NeverTrumpers.  McConnell and Cornyn did that.  (Maybe they felt they had to do it.)  The fact that Trump did go on to order the FBI to do the investigation has nothing to do with Trump appeasing anyone.  The Senate demanded the investigation, and a refusal on the part of Trump would simply create a quagmire that would be unacceptable on Trump's schedule.  As I said in my previous post, he still needs to have Kavanaugh installed on the SCOTUS well before he drops the hammer of what will be a legally controversial but Constitutional October Surprise.

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Perhaps @libertybele is actually just irked that Trump signed another bloated appropriations omnibus bill.  That worries even me a little bit, but there are bigger things to address at this time.  (BTW, Trump claims to have a plan to pay off the entire national debt before he leaves office.  I think it might even go back to his EO from last December.)

Trump is aiming to destroy the virulently anti-American Democratic Socialists in November--not just have the GOP squeak by.  And I say it's about time for this.

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Aside to libertybele:  I wouldn't say that Flake caved.  I don't think he was ever anything but a flake.

"Appeasing the NeverTrumpers"?

More like appeasing the squishy Republicans and Democrats in general.

The "NeverTrumpers", i.e. conservatives, I know wish the GOP had run over the Dems on this and voted to put him on the court now. This just further demonstrates how spineless the GOP is these days and why it isn't worthy of support.

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2018, 10:57:17 pm »
"Appeasing the NeverTrumpers"?

More like appeasing the squishy Republicans and Democrats in general.

The "NeverTrumpers", i.e. conservatives, I know wish the GOP had run over the Dems on this and voted to put him on the court now. This just further demonstrates how spineless the GOP is these days and why it isn't worthy of support.

Well, I'm glad to see that your post came at least very close to the truth of what I was saying:    Trump appeased no one in the Kavanaugh debacle.  It was the "squishy Republicans and Democrats in general" who did the dastardly deed against us conservatives.  Trump was surely as infuriated by the delay in the confirmation vote as the rest of us conservatives are.  And it was a NeverTrumper named Flake who lined up with the likes of Murkowski and Collins (who also dislike Trump) to force the delay.

I predict that there will be no further delays, even if there are further (new) attempts to frame Kavanaugh.