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The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« on: September 26, 2018, 10:31:52 am »
 
The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right

By Rich Lowry

September 24, 2018 | 7:44pm | Updated
 

The attempted political assassination of Brett Kavanaugh is bad for the country, but good for a Trumpian attitude toward American politics.

The last-minute ambush validates key assumptions of Trump’s supporters that fueled his rise and buttress him in office, no matter how rocky the ride has been or will become. At least three key premises have been underlined by tawdry events of the last couple of weeks.

First, that good character is no defense. If you are John McCain, who genuinely tried to do the right thing and carefully cultivated a relationship with the media over decades, they will still call you a racist when you run against Barack Obama.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/24/the-assault-on-kavanaugh-is-proving-trump-voters-right/

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2018, 11:51:10 am »
To put it more bluntly, part of Trump's appeal to many is that he's not afraid to flip the bird to people who deserve it, regardless of it being uncouth, and beneath the usual dignity of the office.

I didn't support him in the primaries, and was wavering on whether I'd even vote for him in the general election.  But when I saw how the left was acting in 2016, and what they've done since...I'd rather than a guy who fights dirty than a gentleman who'd say "thank you sir may I have another."

I hate them.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2018, 12:10:10 pm »
To put it more bluntly, part of Trump's appeal to many is that he's not afraid to flip the bird to people who deserve it, regardless of it being uncouth, and beneath the usual dignity of the office.

I didn't support him in the primaries, and was wavering on whether I'd even vote for him in the general election.  But when I saw how the left was acting in 2016, and what they've done since...I'd rather than a guy who fights dirty than a gentleman who'd say "thank you sir may I have another."

I hate them.

Ditto.
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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2018, 01:07:07 pm »

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2018, 01:21:48 pm »
Democrats = flirting with full-on socialism.

Socialism! In America!

Not if I have anything to say about it.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2018, 01:27:23 pm »
By the way, Richie Lowry is going to have to work long and hard to regain my trust after the NeverTrump fiasco at National Review.

I certainly hate the Left, but I think I hate conservative/republican NeverTrumpers more...for the damage they’ve done to the Trump presidency.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2018, 01:29:35 pm »
By the way, Richie Lowery is going to have to work long and hard to regain my trust after the NeverTrump fiasco at National Review.

I certainly hate the Left, but I think I hate conservative/republican NeverTrumpers more...for the damage they’ve done to the Trump presidency.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2018, 01:45:34 pm »
Today any olive branch should be quickly accepted. Holding a grudge is self defeating.

Yeah, as soon as I see an actual, unequivocal olive branch I’ll let you know. But, until then, God forgives – I don’t.

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2018, 01:50:23 pm »
Today any olive branch should be quickly accepted. Holding a grudge is self defeating.

 :amen:

The prodigal son and all that....

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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2018, 01:52:00 pm »
Yeah, as soon as I see an actual, unequivocal olive branch I’ll let you know. But, until then, God forgives – I don’t.

Of course its only my opinion, but this essay looks alot like one to me.

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2018, 01:54:39 pm »
NeverTrumpers were unearned assets to Leftist, deep state’rs and democrats. That’s unforgivable in my book.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2018, 01:55:29 pm »
To put it more bluntly, part of Trump's appeal to many is that he's not afraid to flip the bird to people who deserve it, regardless of it being uncouth, and beneath the usual dignity of the office.

I didn't support him in the primaries, and was wavering on whether I'd even vote for him in the general election.  But when I saw how the left was acting in 2016, and what they've done since...I'd rather than a guy who fights dirty than a gentleman who'd say "thank you sir may I have another."

I hate them.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2018, 01:55:41 pm »
To put it more bluntly, part of Trump's appeal to many is that he's not afraid to flip the bird to people who deserve it, regardless of it being uncouth, and beneath the usual dignity of the office.

I didn't support him in the primaries, and was wavering on whether I'd even vote for him in the general election.  But when I saw how the left was acting in 2016, and what they've done since...I'd rather than a guy who fights dirty than a gentleman who'd say "thank you sir may I have another."

I hate them.
What the left is doing to Kavanaugh and his family is the same as dragging a man behind a pickup truck.

Actually it is worse, as it degrades the entire country and our laws much more severely.
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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2018, 01:56:58 pm »
NeverTrumpers were unearned assets to Leftist, deep state’rs and democrats. That’s unforgivable in my book.

OK, but I still want to win.

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 02:00:13 pm »
What the left is doing to Kavanaugh and his family is the same as dragging a man behind a pickup truck.

Actually it is worse, as it degrades the entire country and our laws much more severely.

And what better messenger to convey that disgusting treatment to the American People than 'Mr. Uncouth', Donald J. Trump?


...even a caveman can understand him.   :laugh:

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2018, 02:00:50 pm »
NeverTrumpers were unearned assets to Leftist, deep state’rs and democrats. That’s unforgivable in my book.

Were?   What do you mean "were"?   

If you're talking about only during the primaries, that's just what happens during primaries.  So when is this "were" you mentioned?

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2018, 02:01:35 pm »
Today any olive branch should be quickly accepted. Holding a grudge is self defeating.

At THIS point-in-time?

I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.   :smokin:
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2018, 02:03:51 pm »
Another thing, now that democrats and establishment deep state’rs are down and Donald Trump is up, where are the NeverTrumpers? They all seem to be changing the subject and avoiding any news threads that might show them as having been wrong the whole time about Donald Trump.

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2018, 02:07:13 pm »
Another thing, now that democrats and establishment deep state’rs are down and Donald Trump is up, where are the NeverTrumpers? They all seem to be changing the subject and avoiding any news threads that might show them as having been wrong the whole time about Donald Trump.

Exactly, @aligncare

I guess even blind people have epiphanies.

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2018, 02:12:01 pm »
At THIS point-in-time?

I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.   :smokin:

When defending my support of Trump I always say my concern for the country comes first. His agenda is good for the country, IMO, so I support him warts and all.

The argument works both ways - NT support would help him move his agenda forward. Why would I want their support rejected?
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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2018, 02:30:58 pm »
When defending my support of Trump I always say my concern for the country comes first. His agenda is good for the country, IMO, so I support him warts and all.

The argument works both ways - NT support would help him move his agenda forward. Why would I want their support rejected?

The attitude they display here just reinforces the stance and opinion of NTs and folks like INVAR.  In my opinion, their stance is just plain stupid.  But I digress....

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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2018, 02:44:49 pm »
Quote from: the Article
First, that good character is no defense.

Riiight. Because when neither side husbands good character, good character is no more. Brilliant.  *****rollingeyes*****

Quote from: the Article
Second, that the media is an unremitting political and cultural adversary.

Riiiight. Because your propaganda is what counters their propaganda, and the only thing lost in that is the truth.  *****rollingeyes*****

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Third, that politics isn’t just rough-and-tumble; it’s red in tooth and claw.

Riiiiight. Because tooth and claw is superior strategy. The strategy of 'they did it first'.
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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2018, 03:03:11 pm »
The Kavanaugh inquisition is doing more than just proving Trump voters correct...it's pushing people who wouldn't have into supporting him.
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Re: The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2018, 04:07:18 pm »
When defending my support of Trump I always say my concern for the country comes first. His agenda is good for the country, IMO, so I support him warts and all.

You just defined patriotism.

I can live with anybody who is a true patriot.  I never liked all of Joe Lieberman's politics but he was a 100% patriot in my book. 

That I can live with as a patriot can be convinced to alter his agenda for the good of the country.

What we see in the Dems is contrary to the good of the country.  Their drive is power and the good of their party instead of the USA.

They cannot be convinced otherwise.
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