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Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« on: September 25, 2018, 03:34:13 pm »
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Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'

US President Donald Trump has attacked the Iranian leadership, accusing it of sowing "chaos, death and destruction" across the Middle East.

Addressing the United Nations General Assembly in New York, he defended his decision to abandon the nuclear deal.

Mr Trump also boasted that his administration had accomplished "more than almost any" other in US history.

Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45644559

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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 03:37:51 pm »
He's ENTIRELY right!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 03:57:44 pm »
Oh, the drama!

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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 04:01:06 pm »
What I wish Trump had said:

"You all have two weeks to vacate the Premises, I just purchased this building and will tear it down to make room for the expansion of Trump World Tower."

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 04:56:02 pm »
Back in July, they had the idea sanctions on Iran’s oil would bring revenue to zero. That’s not gonna happen.
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2018, 05:25:16 pm »
Back in July, they had the idea sanctions on Iran’s oil would bring revenue to zero. That’s not gonna happen.

Do you have a link supporting the claim of zero revenue?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2018, 06:16:53 pm »
Do you have a link supporting the claim of zero revenue?


Sure.......


"Our goal is to increase pressure on the Iranian regime by reducing to zero its revenue from crude oil sales," Hook, the State Department's director of policy and planning, told reporters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-sticks-goal-cutting-iran-oil-exports-zero-175504393.html
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2018, 06:22:19 pm »

Sure.......


"Our goal is to increase pressure on the Iranian regime by reducing to zero its revenue from crude oil sales," Hook, the State Department's director of policy and planning, told reporters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-sticks-goal-cutting-iran-oil-exports-zero-175504393.html

Except that doesn't say what you said it does!  I have the aim to remove all democraps from office but I don't expect to get there overnight!

« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 06:23:05 pm by Bigun »
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2018, 06:31:36 pm »

Sure.......


"Our goal is to increase pressure on the Iranian regime by reducing to zero its revenue from crude oil sales," Hook, the State Department's director of policy and planning, told reporters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-sticks-goal-cutting-iran-oil-exports-zero-175504393.html

Thanks edpc.  I think that was ridiculously over the top in expectations, but that is what they said.

They just needed to make a noticeable dent.  Going to zero seems to be more hyperbole that I'm tired of hearing.

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2018, 06:53:39 pm »
Thanks edpc.  I think that was ridiculously over the top in expectations, but that is what they said.

They just needed to make a noticeable dent.  Going to zero seems to be more hyperbole that I'm tired of hearing.

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Yes, it is an absurd thing to state as policy.  The only way to really do that is through a complete blockade and/or attacking pipelines. Those would be acts of war.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2018, 06:58:50 pm »
Except that doesn't say what you said it does!  I have the aim to remove all democraps from office but I don't expect to get there overnight!


Really?  How am I wrong?  The State Dept rep specifically said zero revenue from oil sales.  How much clearer could it have been?
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2018, 08:41:36 pm »

Really?  How am I wrong?  The State Dept rep specifically said zero revenue from oil sales.  How much clearer could it have been?

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US sticks to goal of cutting Iran oil exports to zero

I quoted your headline and there is a key word in it. See if you can find it.  {{{ it starts with the letter g}}}
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 09:04:40 pm »
I quoted your headline and there is a key word in it. See if you can find it.  {{{ it starts with the letter g}}}


Back in July, they had the idea sanctions on Iran’s oil would bring revenue to zero. That’s not gonna happen.


I quoted myself and there is a key word between ‘the’ and ‘sanctions.’
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2018, 09:06:45 pm »


I quoted myself and there is a key word between ‘the’ and ‘sanctions.’

OK!  You win!  I'm still trying to get over giving that sleezeball Yahoo site a hit in the first place!
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2018, 09:54:38 pm »
It was great to see a US president telling the effete socialists like it is instead of bowing and scraping to them.
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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2018, 10:41:24 pm »
edpc wrote:
"The only way to really do that is through a complete blockade and/or attacking pipelines. Those would be acts of war."

I, for one, would welcome such actions.
I can't understand why we didn't do this a long time ago (back to the Bush II term)...

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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2018, 08:07:25 am »
edpc wrote:
"The only way to really do that is through a complete blockade and/or attacking pipelines. Those would be acts of war."

I, for one, would welcome such actions.
I can't understand why we didn't do this a long time ago (back to the Bush II term)...

@Absalom noted in another post that the straight of Hormuz is 20 miles wide.

Our subs could make it a micron wide.

And there goes 1/2 of Iran's buddy China's desperation for oil.

Sanctions and a possible blockade of the now imploded Venezuela could cut off the other half.

Iran, China, and North Korea.

It can be done.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2018, 12:23:05 pm »
OK!  You win!  I'm still trying to get over giving that sleezeball Yahoo site a hit in the first place!


Well, it’s an aggregate site and the article was originally written by the French news service AFP.  If you copy and paste the headline in your favorite search engine, you can probably find different links for the main source, if you really wanted to read it.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2018, 12:31:11 pm by edpc »
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Trump at UN: Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2018, 12:35:20 pm »
@Absalom noted in another post that the straight of Hormuz is 20 miles wide.

Our subs could make it a micron wide.

And there goes 1/2 of Iran's buddy China's desperation for oil.

Sanctions and a possible blockade of the now imploded Venezuela could cut off the other half.

Iran, China, and North Korea.

It can be done.


Of course it can be done.  The problem is a blockade is an internationally and universally recognized act of war.   We have not fully extricated ourselves from conflicts that are over a decade old, we are deeply in debt, and the economy is making its way back from terrible recession. Probably not the best time to start turning over rocks.  These things never go as planned.
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