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Offline Bigun

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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2018, 08:23:35 pm »
Quote from: mrclose on September 21, 2018, 08:21:01 pm
Why don't some of you folks read all of the posts before beclowning yourselves?

Thomas and Hill were both government employees when the 'alleged' assault took place.
That made it a Federal investigation and appropriate!

Kavanaugh and the accuser were high school kids!

That would have been a State responsibility to investigate ... If it had been reported Before 36 years had passed!

@mrclose

Thank you for taking the time to type that out TWICE on this thread!  I guess you have to hit some people upside the head with a 2X4 to get their attention.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2018, 08:27:47 pm »
@mrclose @Bigun  I can find a more right-leaning source if you'd like, but FBI is the agent of the President in cases of presidential appointees.  All that's needed is for the President to request additional investigation. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/can-fbi-investigate-allegation-against-brett-kavanaugh-n911036

I guess you missed this.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2018, 08:32:05 pm »
@mrclose  @Bigun Here's a Fox article that states the President can request follow up investigation: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/19/fbi-will-not-launch-criminal-investigation-into-kavanaugh-allegations.html

There's a WSJ article that has more specifics, but it's behind a paywall.  I read it "grayed out": https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-the-fbi-investigate-the-kavanaugh-accusations-1537452001
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2018, 08:33:14 pm »
So there is overwhelming information that the President (not the Senate) can request further FBI investigation of a nominee.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2018, 08:41:51 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:23:12 pm
@mrclose The investigation is background research for an applicant for a federal job.  It's not about whether he was a federal employee when it happened.  The FBI investigation is standard.

Kavanaugh has, through his years in public service, undergone SIX FBI background checks --- the most recent being this year.

Ms. Ford is asking for the FBI to specifically investigate her claims of sexual assault.  Investigating such a claim from almost 40 years ago involving two teenagers is not the within the charter of the FBI.  Not even for Ms. Ford @LauraTXNM   They have no jurisdiction.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2018, 08:54:41 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 21, 2018, 08:41:51 pm
Kavanaugh has, through his years in public service, undergone SIX FBI background checks --- the most recent being this year.

Ms. Ford is asking for the FBI to specifically investigate her claims of sexual assault.  Investigating such a claim from almost 40 years ago involving two teenagers is not the within the charter of the FBI.  Not even for Ms. Ford @LauraTXNM   They have no jurisdiction.

@Right_in_Virginia  If you look st the numerous articles above, there is precedent, and the President absolutely can ask the FBI to do additional investigation.  If Trump had asked the FBI on Tuesday, they could have taken three days like they did with Anita Hill and be finishing up right now.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2018, 08:55:09 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:33:14 pm
So there is overwhelming information that the President (not the Senate) can request further FBI investigation of a nominee.

The president had better not go one inch - not a single millimeter - out of his way to accommodate this bullsh*t rat ploy. Its not deserving of another minute of his, nor the judiciary committee's, time. Enough.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2018, 08:58:54 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on September 21, 2018, 08:55:09 pm
The president had better not go one inch - not a single millimeter - out of his way to accommodate this bullsh*t rat ploy. Its not deserving of another minute of his, nor the judiciary committee's, time. Enough.

That's obviously his choice.  But it is incontrovertible that the President can request further investigation, and the FBI would do it.  It's false of other posters to say it isn't standard practice. 
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2018, 09:00:11 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:54:41 pm
@Right_in_Virginia  If you look st the numerous articles above, there is precedent, and the President absolutely can ask the FBI to do additional investigation.  If Trump had asked the FBI on Tuesday, they could have taken three days like they did with Anita Hill and be finishing up right now.

No, no and no.

Again, Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas were not teenagers at the time of the alleged events ... they were both Federal employees at the time.

This is a bleeping BIG difference @LauraTXNM and it matters.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2018, 09:01:13 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 21, 2018, 09:00:11 pm
No, no and no.

Again, Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas were not teenagers at the time of the alleged events ... they were both Federal employees at the time.

This is a bleeping BIG difference @LauraTXNM and it matters.

The point I made, is that it is FACTUALLY INCORRECT to say the President can't do it, or the FBI can't do it.  That is my entire point.  Bye!
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2018, 09:02:22 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:58:54 pm
That's obviously his choice.  But it is incontrovertible that the President can request further investigation, and the FBI would do it.  It's false of other posters to say it isn't standard practice.

If it requires the president request additional investigating then the clear implication is it would be a non standard procedure.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2018, 09:05:27 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on September 21, 2018, 09:02:22 pm
If it requires the president request additional investigating then the clear implication is it would be a non standard procedure.

That has been done before.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2018, 09:08:47 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:58:54 pm
That's obviously his choice.  But it is incontrovertible that the President can request further investigation, and the FBI would do it.  It's false of other posters to say it isn't standard practice.

I've got to ask this @LauraTXNM   Have you a single clue as to what is happening here?  Seriously, do you understand the political obstruction that is taking place?
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2018, 09:09:26 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 09:05:27 pm
That has been done before.

Now you're being deliberately obtuse @LauraTXNM and you are really pissing me off.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2018, 09:19:49 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 08:58:54 pm
It's false of other posters to say it isn't standard practice.

What the Dems are doing to try to destroy the reputation of an honorable man,  and to subject his family to abuse,  sure as hell better not become "standard practice".   Let this woman come forward and make her case under penalty of perjury.  Until then, I see no reason for the FBI to lend credence to this obvious and shameful partisan set-up. 
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2018, 09:26:35 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 05:25:16 pm
Not sure how that would happen, if neither she or her lawyer is in the room to hear his testimony.

And, how does he respond to her statements if he doesn't know what she's going to say? 
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2018, 09:30:35 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on September 21, 2018, 05:26:19 pm
There is another prominent investigation of ‘nothing substantial’ right now that is entering its 15th (16th?) month.

Didn't that one start in July, 2016?  It's over 2 years now.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2018, 09:32:06 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 05:30:15 pm
I disagree.  There are putative witnesses to question, classmates of both of them.  And please remember, this is not "just" groping.  This is someone (according to her story) holding her down, trying to get her clothes off, and covering her mouth.  Groping is someone grabbing your butt or your boob.  Please know, there is a difference.


And...all the witnesses so far have denied even being there.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2018, 09:32:28 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on September 21, 2018, 09:30:35 pm
Didn't that one start in July, 2016?  It's over 2 years now.

Yes that's right. I lost a year somehow.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2018, 09:33:50 pm »
All:  unless I’m sorely mistaken, @LauraTXNM has, to her credit, honorably proclaimed that she IS a dem...just saying.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2018, 09:35:27 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on September 21, 2018, 05:27:17 pm
I agree!  And just as the FBI investigation of Anita Hill came up inconclusive, the FBI might not find anything here.  But the attempt is necessary.

No, ma'am it was not inconclusive - they "found no foundation" to the claims.  Quite a bit different.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2018, 09:42:43 pm »
What could they possibly investigate?  All the supposed witnesses say it didn't happen and Ford doesn't know where it happened or even when.
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #72 on: September 21, 2018, 09:46:53 pm »
   Despite her political bent @Axeslinger she argues her position passionately, PLUS she pizzes off @Right_in_Virginia so she earns a spot on my list.   @LauraTXNM
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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2018, 09:48:05 pm »
Quote from: LadyLiberty on September 21, 2018, 09:42:43 pm
What could they possibly investigate?  All the supposed witnesses say it didn't happen and Ford doesn't know where it happened or even when.

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Re: Christine Blasey Ford Makes Ridiculous Demands Before Testifying
« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2018, 10:03:44 pm »
Quote from: austingirl on September 21, 2018, 09:48:05 pm
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But, but, but....#MeToo!!!!

Ha!  The trump (pardon the pun) card has been played.
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