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Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« on: September 14, 2018, 02:26:47 am »
CNN By Kristin Wilson, Sunlen Serfaty and Daniella Diaz 9/13/2018

An intern for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was arrested on Monday after US Capitol Police found shotgun shells in the back of his vehicle.

According to a statement from US Capitol Police provided to CNN, officers were called to a "dispute" between the intern and another individual in a vehicle near the US Capitol. Officers observed the unregistered ammunition in the back of the vehicle and arrested 20-year-old Scott M. Frantz around 3 p.m. ET, according to the report.

He was charged with possession of unregistered ammunition, which violates the District of Columbia's strict rules regarding possessing firearms and ammunition.

More: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/ted-cruz-intern-arrested/index.html

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 03:28:29 pm »
Unregistered ammo?  888mouth
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 03:35:54 pm »
CNN By Kristin Wilson, Sunlen Serfaty and Daniella Diaz 9/13/2018

An intern for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was arrested on Monday after US Capitol Police found shotgun shells in the back of his vehicle.

According to a statement from US Capitol Police provided to CNN, officers were called to a "dispute" between the intern and another individual in a vehicle near the US Capitol. Officers observed the unregistered ammunition in the back of the vehicle and arrested 20-year-old Scott M. Frantz around 3 p.m. ET, according to the report.

He was charged with possession of unregistered ammunition, which violates the District of Columbia's strict rules regarding possessing firearms and ammunition.

More: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/ted-cruz-intern-arrested/index.html

I'm confused here.  I thought the USSC overturned DC's unconstitutional gun ban.  Wouldn't that apply to their asinine law on ammo, too?

https://townhall.com/columnists/amandacarpenter/2008/06/26/dc-gun-ban-overturned-by-supreme-court-n1102060
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 03:44:01 pm »
Unregistered ammo?  888mouth

I thought that was only a problem driving into Mexico.

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 03:55:11 pm »
Unregistered ammo? WTF?
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 05:17:23 pm »
CNN By Kristin Wilson, Sunlen Serfaty and Daniella Diaz 9/13/2018

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An intern for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was arrested on Monday after US Capitol Police found shotgun shells in the back of his vehicle.

According to a statement from US Capitol Police provided to CNN, officers were called to a "dispute" between the intern and another individual in a vehicle near the US Capitol. Officers observed the unregistered ammunition in the back of the vehicle and arrested 20-year-old Scott M. Frantz around 3 p.m. ET, according to the report.


"Unregistered ammunition"??????

WTF???

How is it even possible to register ammunition,and why would anyone agree to doing it to start with? When the time comes the goobermint starts requiring us to register ammunition,it's time for us to be loading and shooting it.

BTW,WHY is a  photo of Cruz accompanying the story? HE wasn't the one arrested,and had nothing to do with any of it.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 06:10:11 pm »
What is "unregistered ammo"?
I can walk in and buy a box of shotgun shells or a box of bullets without having to register them.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I guess that's D.C. for you.

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 06:15:19 pm »
Prohibited Possessors/Registration Requirements

The District of Columbia broadly prohibits the possession of ammunition1. A holder of a valid registration certificate for a firearm may possess ammunition, however ((D.C. Code Ann. § 7-2506.01(a)(3).)). Licensed firearms dealers, on-duty law enforcement officers, holders of ammunition collector’s certificates, and persons temporarily possessing ammunition while participating in a firearms training and safety class conducted by a firearms instructor also exempt2.

Minimum Age to Purchase/Possess Ammunition

Because a registration certificate is required for the possession of a firearm8, licensed dealers may only transfer ammunition to valid registration certificate holders9, and persons under age 21 cannot obtain a registration certificate10, persons under age 21 are generally prohibited from possessing or obtaining ammunition.

http://lawcenter.giffords.org/ammunition-regulation-in-washington-d-c/

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2018, 07:19:32 pm »
What is "unregistered ammo"?
I can walk in and buy a box of shotgun shells or a box of bullets without having to register them.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I guess that's D.C. for you.

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I don't even know HOW you can register them. They have no serial numbers.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2018, 07:21:20 pm »
Prohibited Possessors/Registration Requirements

The District of Columbia broadly prohibits the possession of ammunition1. A holder of a valid registration certificate for a firearm may possess ammunition, however ((D.C. Code Ann. § 7-2506.01(a)(3).)). Licensed firearms dealers, on-duty law enforcement officers, holders of ammunition collector’s certificates, and persons temporarily possessing ammunition while participating in a firearms training and safety class conducted by a firearms instructor also exempt2.

Minimum Age to Purchase/Possess Ammunition

Because a registration certificate is required for the possession of a firearm8, licensed dealers may only transfer ammunition to valid registration certificate holders9, and persons under age 21 cannot obtain a registration certificate10, persons under age 21 are generally prohibited from possessing or obtaining ammunition.

http://lawcenter.giffords.org/ammunition-regulation-in-washington-d-c/

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Good thing they passed those laws and made DC a safe place,huh?

Anybody ever bother to ask the DC Mayor why he and his pals all have armed police bodyguards?
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2018, 07:23:35 pm »

I don't even know HOW you can register them. They have no serial numbers.

They register the person and not the ammunition.

A holder of a valid registration certificate for a firearm may possess ammunition

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2018, 07:35:33 pm »
Sounds like we need another SC ruling here.

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2018, 07:39:23 pm »
They register the person and not the ammunition.

A holder of a valid registration certificate for a firearm may possess ammunition

@Elderberry

I guess that must make sense to people that live in DC,but it sure as hell makes no sense to me.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2018, 08:02:00 pm »
@Elderberry

I guess that must make sense to people that live in DC,but it sure as hell makes no sense to me.
@sneakypete

Me neither.

It's mentality like in DC why the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill was shot down.

The risk that concealed carry reciprocity poses to D.C.

The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, federal legislation that would require concealed carry permits issued in one state to be honored by all states and that has been passed by the House, is an active threat to the District's independence in asserting how concealed carry is governed within the city limits. The regular influx of visitors to the District makes the risk posed by concealed carry reciprocity all the more pertinent. Whether by arguing for states' rights or for common-sense gun legislation, the Senate must step up and defeat this bill.

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2018, 08:56:43 pm »
What is "unregistered ammo"?
I can walk in and buy a box of shotgun shells or a box of bullets without having to register them.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I guess that's D.C. for you.

I wonder if Seth Rich was killed by registered ammo.  I'm sure to the DC twits, it makes a huge difference.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 09:01:34 pm »
DC police collect 1,000 illegal guns as homicide rate climbs
https://wtop.com/dc/2018/07/dc-police-collect-1000-illegal-guns-as-homicide-rate-climbs/

I'm guessing all those illegal gun holders don't register their ammunition either.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2018, 12:23:12 am »
Unregistered ammo?  I can't even...
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2018, 01:41:24 am »
Txradio wrote:
"Unregistered ammo?  I can't even..."

If you were in Connecticut, you could.

I don't believe ammunition can be purchased here now unless one also has a concealed carry permit.

So... perhaps the ammo here can be "unregistered", but only those who "pre-register" with the State (by obtaining a CCP) can actually -buy- any of it.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2018, 01:46:03 am »
Txradio wrote:
"Unregistered ammo?  I can't even..."

If you were in Connecticut, you could.

I don't believe ammunition can be purchased here now unless one also has a concealed carry permit.

So... perhaps the ammo here can be "unregistered", but only those who "pre-register" with the State (by obtaining a CCP) can actually -buy- any of it.

I never realized that they had turned up the heat so high already on us poor frogs.

Generally, if you are not considered eligible to purchase a firearm in Connecticut you will not be able to purchase ammunition. Effective October 1, 2013, all purchasers of ammunition must now have either a new “ammunition certificate”, a long gun eligibility certificate, a pistol permit, or an eligibility certificate

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2018, 03:06:09 am »
I thought that was only a problem driving into Mexico.

DC/mexico... what is the deference?

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2018, 01:36:46 pm »
Txradio wrote:
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"Unregistered ammo?  I can't even..."

If you were in Connecticut, you could.

I don't believe ammunition can be purchased here now unless one also has a concealed carry permit.


That can't be true unless everybody that asks for a CC permit gets one. Otherwise  hunters couldn't buy ammo. Damn few duck hunters hunt with handguns.

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So... perhaps the ammo here can be "unregistered", but only those who "pre-register" with the State (by obtaining a CCP) can actually -buy- any of it.

Sounds like you live in Ct. How hard are CC permits to get there? I am all for a system that issues CC permits to EVERYONE that legally owns a gun.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2018, 03:00:30 pm »
There really are some Anti 2nd States out there.

I was around 6 years old when I first started purchasing ammunition down at the local store in Gray Ga.

I looked up the ammo regs for Georgia and Texas.

Georgia law does not

•   significantly regulate the sale, transfer, purchase or possession of ammunition in any way.
•   Furthermore, Georgia law limits local regulation of ammunition.

Texas law does not:

•   Impose a minimum age for the purchase or possession of ammunition;
•   Require the seller of ammunition to make a record of the purchaser;
•   Require a license for the purchase or possession of ammunition; or
•   Require a license to sell ammunition.

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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2018, 02:26:50 am »
I never realized that they had turned up the heat so high already on us poor frogs.

Generally, if you are not considered eligible to purchase a firearm in Connecticut you will not be able to purchase ammunition. Effective October 1, 2013, all purchasers of ammunition must now have either a new “ammunition certificate”, a long gun eligibility certificate, a pistol permit, or an eligibility certificate
Aside from the infringement of constitutional rights, what crimes has this nonsense stopped or reduced? Any statistics?
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2018, 04:08:06 am »
Aside from the infringement of constitutional rights, what crimes has this nonsense stopped or reduced? Any statistics?

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"STOPPED crimes"????

You gotta be kidding. All it did is CREATE new crimes. Which is really the purpose of new laws,anyway.
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Re: Cruz intern arrested on Capitol Hill for unregistered ammunition
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2018, 05:20:40 am »

"STOPPED crimes"????

You gotta be kidding. All it did is CREATE new crimes. Which is really the purpose of new laws,anyway.
That’s what I asked. Reread.
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