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Offline Timothy Dennis

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On Being Virtuous...
« on: September 09, 2018, 05:00:18 pm »
As the Bible teaches, being virtuous, being honest makes one "above the fray". If one is virtuous, they don't have to fear reprisal and the "slings and arrows" of detractors will fall on deaf ears. The "truth" will always come out in the end and liars will be made to be just that: liars. Liars who have no credibility. As they gnash their teeth at those who honestly pursue the welfare of the American people, i.e. President Trump, they will be driven into the shadows by their own nefarious efforts and lies.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 05:11:26 pm »
Being 'virtuous' is for losers and self-righteous snobs who need to be run out of society.

Just read what the rabid Trump supporters have to say and opine about foundational principles and of those who will not surrender them for political expedience.

Because they will tell you, they do not vote for a pope or Jesus.  They believe the less virtuous and more banal a candidate is - the better the president. So long as they make promises that they want to hear and use their crass banality to wage war on those they hate
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2018, 05:16:04 pm »
Virtuous



Oh Lawd, Ain't nobody gots time fo dat!
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 05:39:07 pm »
Virtuous



Oh Lawd, Ain't nobody gots time fo dat!

Nope. 

And that's the problem right there.  Nobody got time to be virtuous.

So enjoy the consequences.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2018, 01:21:32 am »
As the Bible teaches, being virtuous, being honest makes one "above the fray". If one is virtuous, they don't have to fear reprisal and the "slings and arrows" of detractors will fall on deaf ears. The "truth" will always come out in the end and liars will be made to be just that: liars. Liars who have no credibility. As they gnash their teeth at those who honestly pursue the welfare of the American people, i.e. President Trump, they will be driven into the shadows by their own nefarious efforts and lies.
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Well intentioned yet meaningless sanctimonious blather.
The Natural Law, created for Mankind, was uncovered
through logic and reason, by the likes of Aristotle and Plato.
It's essence are the Rules that govern the behavior of Man,
which are derived from human nature and non-dependent
on politics and religion as well as the rest of the isms
English Whigs such as David Hume and Edmund Burke re-affirmed
this reality as did Wm. Buckley and Russell Kirk in our time.
Being a virtuous (good) person in this material life will be rewarded
in the spiritual afterlife but it will not put Man back on the pathway
that allows/encourages culture/society to survive and thrive.


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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2018, 01:26:56 am »
English Whigs such as David Hume and Edmund Burke

 :hands:

Haven't seen Hume discussed in a long time.  Thanks, @Absalom
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2018, 01:39:18 am »
Virtuous



Oh Lawd, Ain't nobody gots time fo dat!

Exposing yourself for who you are I see.
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2018, 01:39:50 am »
As the Bible teaches, being virtuous, being honest makes one "above the fray". If one is virtuous, they don't have to fear reprisal and the "slings and arrows" of detractors will fall on deaf ears. The "truth" will always come out in the end and liars will be made to be just that: liars. Liars who have no credibility. As they gnash their teeth at those who honestly pursue the welfare of the American people, i.e. President Trump, they will be driven into the shadows by their own nefarious efforts and lies.
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The author of this piece is an idiot, and you forgot to provide a web link.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2018, 01:41:43 am »
As the Bible teaches, being virtuous, being honest makes one "above the fray". If one is virtuous, they don't have to fear reprisal and the "slings and arrows" of detractors will fall on deaf ears. The "truth" will always come out in the end and liars will be made to be just that: liars. Liars who have no credibility. As they gnash their teeth at those who honestly pursue the welfare of the American people, i.e. President Trump, they will be driven into the shadows by their own nefarious efforts and lies.

I don't think Trump is any of those things except liar.  Certainly not virtuous.

But welcome to TBR. 
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2018, 01:45:16 am »
@Timothy Dennis
The author of this piece is an idiot, and you forgot to provide a web link.

I thought it was his own opinion and I was going to suggest this isn't politics.  Blind worship.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2018, 01:51:31 am »
I thought it was his own opinion and I was going to suggest this isn't politics.  Blind worship.
Oh?!? If its a vanity post @Timothy Dennis , great job little buddy.  :thumbsup: but comments are best added to the dozens of threads posted daily.  I know its not that confusing because everybody else figured it out on their own.  Welcome.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2018, 01:53:07 am »
Even Nebuchadnezzar found favor with God.
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2018, 01:54:14 am »
:hands:

Haven't seen Hume discussed in a long time.  Thanks, @Absalom
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2018, 01:55:26 am »
Oh?!? If its a vanity post @Timothy Dennis , great job little buddy.  :thumbsup: but comments are best added to the dozens of threads posted daily.  I know its not that confusing because everybody else figured it out on their own.  Welcome.

Come on be nice..he's a new member and he IS posting...let's encourage him to keep posting and starting conversations.
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2018, 02:01:02 am »
Even Nebuchadnezzar found favor with God.

Facetious?
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2018, 02:12:13 am »
As the Bible teaches, being virtuous, being honest makes one "above the fray". If one is virtuous, they don't have to fear reprisal and the "slings and arrows" of detractors will fall on deaf ears. The "truth" will always come out in the end and liars will be made to be just that: liars. Liars who have no credibility. As they gnash their teeth at those who honestly pursue the welfare of the American people, i.e. President Trump, they will be driven into the shadows by their own nefarious efforts and lies.

So... Tump is virtuous now...
This is a joke, right?

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2018, 02:19:50 am »
Come on be nice..he's a new member and he IS posting...let's encourage him to keep posting and starting conversations.

Can I do a vanity too? 

I'm just kidding.  I'd love to see more posts about President Trump's virtue, because I love comedy.

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 02:34:06 am »
All I can figure is that L.A. must’ve cloned herself
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2018, 02:48:50 am »
Facetious?

For a while, anyway.  His son, not so much.
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2018, 02:55:16 pm »
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Well intentioned yet meaningless sanctimonious blather.
The Natural Law, created for Mankind, was uncovered
through logic and reason, by the likes of Aristotle and Plato.
It's essence are the Rules that govern the behavior of Man,
which are derived from human nature and non-dependent
on politics and religion as well as the rest of the isms
English Whigs such as David Hume and Edmund Burke re-affirmed
this reality as did Wm. Buckley and Russell Kirk in our time.
Being a virtuous (good) person in this material life will be rewarded
in the spiritual afterlife but it will not put Man back on the pathway
that allows/encourages culture/society to survive and thrive.

So am I to suppose under-handedness, duplicitness, and sinful behavior will "allow/encourage culture/society to survive and thrive"?
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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2018, 04:21:37 pm »
All I can figure is that L.A. must’ve cloned herself


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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2018, 04:24:05 pm »
So am I to suppose under-handedness, duplicitness, and sinful behavior will "allow/encourage culture/society to survive and thrive"?

Ah... NOW you're talking about Tump...

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Re: On Being Virtuous...
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2018, 08:18:17 pm »
So am I to suppose under-handedness, duplicitness, and sinful behavior will "allow/encourage culture/society to survive and thrive"?
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Respectfully;
Obviously, negative behavior erodes positive values.
My core argument is that the Natural Law, uncovered in the
earliest days of culture/society; in the Fertile Crescent; defined
a moral order that allowed Mankind to sustain civilization.
It was manifested in values such as self-discipline, responsibility,
work, courage, perseverance, honor, loyalty, among many.
None of these have anything to do w/religion.
On the Last Day Peter will not pass judgement of the collective
people of the USA; rather he will judge every John Q. Citizen.
As such, a virtuous person is likely to be rewarded in the
afterlife while a non-virtuous one is not.
Yet the survival and advancement of the nation/state in this life
will be determined by the collective values of its citizens and not
the level of virtue of the individual citizen.