Senior administration official blasts Trump in anonymous NYT op-ed

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Bullshit. The best the Left could muster against Reagan was Sam Donaldson. Now they have every news agency openly manufacturing stories and fomenting violence.

From day one, they pushed the narrative that he was a sub-100 IQ warmonger who was likely to start WWIII.  Now, there weren't as many media outlets then as there are now, so the cacophony wasn't coming from as many directions.  But the hatred/condescension was still there.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Although I somewhat agree with your sentiment, if Republicans lose the midterms, I don’t think that would be necessarily a good thing. I fear that if Democrats do take the House and Senate this fall, we will see a further shift leftward of Donald Trump.

"Don't think it would be necessarily a good thing??"

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.  Voting, mass legalization...it'll all happen, and will be irreversible because they'll always have the votes.  That's not even touching on what they are likely to do with the FEC, etc..  The Supreme Court won't be of much help because it takes years for cases to reach them, which is more than enough time to screw with particular elections.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

[skeeter]

They were horrible to Reagan...worse than they are with Trump.  And there wasn't a Fox News or talk radio back then to counter or refute what the Left and the MSM was saying about him.

Gotta disagree here. I loved Reagan and the big three networks treated him brutally. There was always a smirking distain just under the surface, the reporting was 75% negative but most rude treatment Reagan got was Donaldson shouting questions at him out of turn.

But there's never been anything like the unprecedented hatred this president receives from the legacy media. Its probably because there are other voices available now that weren't there when Reagan was president thats driven them over the edge.

[aligncare]

"Don't think it would be necessarily a good thing??"

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.  Voting, mass legalization...it'll all happen, and will be irreversible because they'll always have the votes.  That's not even touching on what they are likely to do with the FEC, etc..  The Supreme Court won't be of much help because it takes years for cases to reach them, which is more than enough time to screw with particular elections.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

I break out in a cold sweat at the prospect.

However, I’m optimistic that enough voters have had their eyes opened and will turn out in sufficient numbers November 6 to give Trump a thumbs up.

[Concerned]

Gotta disagree here. I loved Reagan and the big three networks treated him brutally. There was always a smirking distain just under the surface, the reporting was 75% negative but most rude treatment Reagan got was Donaldson shouting questions at him out of turn.

But there's never been anything like the unprecedented hatred this president receives from the legacy media. Its probably because there are other voices available now that weren't there when Reagan was president thats driven them over the edge.

I believe a large amount of the negative coverage this President receives is self-inflicted:  his lies/falsehoods, poorly thoughtout policy, pettiness, childish name-calling, and attacks against his own appointees/departments all receive the press I think they deserve.  I truly believe his negative coverage would go down if he stopped doing and saying stupid things, but I think there's no chance of that happening.

[INVAR]

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.

*Ahem*.... uhmmm the Republican Party Establishment during the last two conventions have ALREADY made those changes to make it impossible for a true Grassroots Conservative to ever get a nomination from their party.

So, it's already a done deal that no real true Conservative will ever be allowed to 'win' or hold the Presidency.

So the fear mongering that if the Democrats win the whole enchilada again, that they will structurally make it impossible for Conservatives to ever win power is moot, considering that the Oligarchy in DC has already made that a reality.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

Meh.  I see little difference between the parties, because BOTH of them have no problems replacing what lip service remains of a Republic for their own particular brand of Collectivist Statism.

[aligncare]

Gotta disagree here. I loved Reagan and the big three networks treated him brutally. There was always a smirking distain just under the surface, the reporting was 75% negative but most rude treatment Reagan got was Donaldson shouting questions at him out of turn.

But there's never been anything like the unprecedented hatred this president receives from the legacy media. Its probably because there are other voices available now that weren't there when Reagan was president thats driven them over the edge.

I agree. The way Trump has been treated by politicians, pundits, celebrities and media is unprecedented in my lifetime, and I’m 66.

[240B]

I agree. The way Trump has been treated by politicians, pundits, celebrities and media is unprecedented in my lifetime, and I’m 66.

It's OK man. Look, Trump is playing them for fools. As soon as he gets rid of Sessions, the whole thing will break.

[XenaLee]

"Don't think it would be necessarily a good thing??"

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.  Voting, mass legalization...it'll all happen, and will be irreversible because they'll always have the votes.  That's not even touching on what they are likely to do with the FEC, etc..  The Supreme Court won't be of much help because it takes years for cases to reach them, which is more than enough time to screw with particular elections.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

Emphasis on "so-called" conservatives.  I posit that no 'real' conservative would ever hope for the Democrats to regain power for ANY reason.

[txradioguy]

Gotta disagree here. I loved Reagan and the big three networks treated him brutally. There was always a smirking distain just under the surface, the reporting was 75% negative but most rude treatment Reagan got was Donaldson shouting questions at him out of turn.

But there's never been anything like the unprecedented hatred this president receives from the legacy media. Its probably because there are other voices available now that weren't there when Reagan was president thats driven them over the edge.

He was a B movie actor...he was senile...he was just reading lines from a script like when he was in Hollywood...he was a Cowboy that was gonna start WWIII.

Bobo the Chimp was smarter than he was.

Dems doing grip and grins with Daniel Ortega.

Ted Kennedy openly trying to get a meeting with the Soviets to help defeat Reagan in 1984.

The whole BS fantasy about George HW Bush flying in an SR-71 to London on the eve on the election to negotiate with the Iranian Mullahs to wait on the release of the hostages until after the election.

Nancy was mocked for the new china she bought for the state dinners because the other stuff wasn't even worthy of a homeless shelter it was so worn and chipped.

Oh and lets not forget the theory that was floated and reported on in the MSM that because Reagan's first middle and last names each contained 6 letters he was the second coming of the Devil himself.

So no it wasn't just Sam Donaldson shouting questions that "Raygun Ronnie" had to go through.

[Chosen Daughter]

"Don't think it would be necessarily a good thing??"

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.  Voting, mass legalization...it'll all happen, and will be irreversible because they'll always have the votes.  That's not even touching on what they are likely to do with the FEC, etc..  The Supreme Court won't be of much help because it takes years for cases to reach them, which is more than enough time to screw with particular elections.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

I don't think you could have this any more wrong.  I think its highly probable that the New York Times in coordination with other liberal news outlets created the Op-ed.  If you really think about it Trump has made the enemies to create such a thing.  He made a war on the media.  There isn't an outlet outside of FOX News that he has ever praised, and most of them he calls Fake news.  Well this would be the ultimate fake news story.  Big enough to create distrust of every senior staff person.  And how hard to pull out a word that Pence uses and insert it in this op-ed?

Knowing the personality of the president by his own twitter and interviews has made him very susceptible to sabotage by the left.  Honestly I do doubt his mental stability, and wonder is he strong enough to endure this.  But overall where you are wrong is not blaming the President himself.  He created a war on the media.  Fake news, fake news, fake news.  He created the perfect storm for a number of people to take advantage.  His weakness of not being able to take criticism, his war on the media and his..........paranoia could take him down over this.

Honestly I was praying for him.  I do believe it is made up, but nobody can make Trump the man that can endure this kind of stuff with strength.  Honestly he has given them all the ammunition to make it happen.

[Wingnut]

I was hoping printing this piece of journalist malfeasance would damage the credibility of the NYT.   But it looks like even anther ding in their damaged armor won't matter to the diehard communists who lap up the daily gruel.

[txradioguy]

I was hoping printing this piece of journalist malfeasance would damage the credibility of the NYT.   But it looks like even anther ding in their damaged armor won't matter to the diehard communists who lap up the daily gruel.

If hiding the horrors of the Holocaust on the back pages during WWII didn't ruin the "reputation" of the NYT...then nothing will.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

*Ahem*.... uhmmm the Republican Party Establishment during the last two conventions have ALREADY made those changes to make it impossible for a true Grassroots Conservative to ever get a nomination from their party.

The party establishment absolutely detested Trump, and united in the hopes of stopping him from winning the nomination.  He won anyway because ordinary people showed up at the polls, and voted for him. Despite what the Establishment wanted.

There is nothing structural preventing a conservative from doing the exact same thing.  Reagan himself basically went over the heads of the Establishment  to win the nomination. All takes is for that person to make an equivalent connection with enough primary voters.

Now, if there is no conservative capable of resonating with enough voters...that's a different issue.  But it can be done.

The problem I was referring to in general elections is - among other things - the mass legalization and granting of the vote to illegal immigrants.  If they do that, the process after that could be fair as hell, and they'd still win because they'd have stacked the electorate itself.

[Bigun]

I was hoping printing this piece of journalist malfeasance would damage the credibility of the NYT.   But it looks like even anther ding in their damaged armor won't matter to the diehard communists who lap up the daily gruel.

@The Ghost

How do you damage that which does not exist?

[Wingnut]

@The Ghost

How do you damage that which does not exist?

Their offices should be besieged upon and their reporters harassed in public and at their domiciles.....  oh wait, that is what rats liberals do.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Why/how is this op-ed piece "journalist malfeasance?"

Because it is an anonymous smear.  How often are anonymous Op-Ed's printed by a major newspaper?

Usually, you can read an op-ed, look at the byline, and then weigh the biases/access to relevant knowledge that the author has.  It provides a framework to evaluate the merit of the editorial.

That is entirely lacking here, which is why reputable  newspapers don't publish anonymous Op-ed's  They're doing it here because they believe it is damaging to Trump, and therefore advances their own political agenda.

So yeah "journalistic malfeasance" seems like an apt descriptor.

[Wingnut]

Because it is an anonymous smear.  How often are anonymous Op-Ed's printed by a major newspaper?

Usually, you can read an op-ed, look at the byline, and then weigh the biases/access to relevant knowledge that the author has.  It provides a framework to evaluate the merit of the eodtorial.

That is entirely lacking here, which is why newspapers generally don't do it.  They're doing g it here because they believe it is dating, and therefore advances their own agenda.

So yeah "journalistic mafeasance" seems like an apt descriptor.

Thank you.  I missed the Apples question to me.  Originally I used the word "Malpractice".  But that implied ineptitude on the part of the slimes.   

[XenaLee]

Why/how is this op-ed piece "journalist malfeasance?"

Considering that it's the NY Slimes.... the term "journalist malfeasance" is an automatically assumed understatement.  Only... this time I suspect that even the NYSlimes has gone too far.  That dying rag may have just rang their very own death knell.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

He was a B movie actor...he was senile...he was just reading lines from a script like when he was in Hollywood...he was a Cowboy that was gonna start WWIII.

Bobo the Chimp was smarter than he was.

Dems doing grip and grins with Daniel Ortega.

Ted Kennedy openly trying to get a meeting with the Soviets to help defeat Reagan in 1984.

The whole BS fantasy about George HW Bush flying in an SR-71 to London on the eve on the election to negotiate with the Iranian Mullahs to wait on the release of the hostages until after the election.

Nancy was mocked for the new china she bought for the state dinners because the other stuff wasn't even worthy of a homeless shelter it was so worn and chipped.

Oh and lets not forget the theory that was floated and reported on in the MSM that because Reagan's first middle and last names each contained 6 letters he was the second coming of the Devil himself.

So no it wasn't just Sam Donaldson shouting questions that "Raygun Ronnie" had to go through.

 

Some memories are shorter than others.

[Emjay]

"Don't think it would be necessarily a good thing??"

If Democrats ever -- and I mean ever - get control of Congress and the Presidency again, they will make structural changes that will make it impossible for Republicans/conservatives to ever win another national election.  Voting, mass legalization...it'll all happen, and will be irreversible because they'll always have the votes.  That's not even touching on what they are likely to do with the FEC, etc..  The Supreme Court won't be of much help because it takes years for cases to reach them, which is more than enough time to screw with particular elections.

So-called conservatives who are hoping for the Democrats to regain power to teach Trump and his supporters a lesson are playing with a fire that will burn down the Republic.

I see glimpses of that kind of sentiment here all the time @Maj. Bill Martin.  It is a childish, dangerous viewpoint.

People who are ticked off because Trump doesn't suit them or their own particular agenda is not being followed by Republicans can get in that 'teach them a lesson' mode.

We need to be clear.  Democrats are more dangerous to our democracy than Russians could ever be.  They are ruthless, conscienceless people who would grab onto power with both hands and make sure they kept it.

[INVAR]

The party establishment absolutely detested Trump, and united in the hopes of stopping him from winning the nomination.  He won anyway because ordinary people showed up at the polls, and voted for him. Despite what the Establishment wanted.

There is nothing structural preventing a conservative from doing the exact same thing.  Reagan himself basically went over the heads of the Establishment  to win the nomination. All takes is for that person to make an equivalent connection with enough primary voters.

Now, if there is no conservative capable of resonating with enough voters...that's a different issue.  But it can be done.

I believe Rule 12 and Rule 40 invalidates your assertion.  Unless those rules are rescinded and replaced (which is nearly impossible since the RNC took power from the convention to an appointed committee that meets outside of the Convention itself  for a full two years to determine rules), a grassroots Conservative is just about mathematically impossible to achieve within the ranks of the Republican Party to forward as their presidential nominee.

[Emjay]

Considering that it's the NY Slimes.... the term "journalist malfeasance" is an automatically assumed understatement.  Only... this time I suspect that even the NYSlimes has gone too far.  That dying rag may have just rang their very own death knell.

@XenaLee   I believe they may have.  I woke up at 5 AM and turned on my radio.  The only station I can get is NPR Hawaii.  They were talking about this article and, although all their announcers are trained to only speak in a dull monotone, one guest got indignant to the point of almost raising his voice, declaring that this anonymous creep should own up and resign immediately.

Of course, the worst offender is not the anonymous creep.  They are on every street corner.  The worst offender is the New York Times, the old grey lady, now apparently, the old senile lady.

They have lost the reputation it took years to attain.  I cannot see them being taken seriously again.

[edpc]

Here are the administration officials who deny they wrote The New York Times op-ed


https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/politics/trump-officials-denials-nyt-op-ed/index.html

[Emjay]

He was a B movie actor...he was senile...he was just reading lines from a script like when he was in Hollywood...he was a Cowboy that was gonna start WWIII.

Bobo the Chimp was smarter than he was.

Dems doing grip and grins with Daniel Ortega.

Ted Kennedy openly trying to get a meeting with the Soviets to help defeat Reagan in 1984.

The whole BS fantasy about George HW Bush flying in an SR-71 to London on the eve on the election to negotiate with the Iranian Mullahs to wait on the release of the hostages until after the election.

Nancy was mocked for the new china she bought for the state dinners because the other stuff wasn't even worthy of a homeless shelter it was so worn and chipped.

Oh and lets not forget the theory that was floated and reported on in the MSM that because Reagan's first middle and last names each contained 6 letters he was the second coming of the Devil himself.

So no it wasn't just Sam Donaldson shouting questions that "Raygun Ronnie" had to go through.

I had forgotten some of that stuff @txradioguy.  Wow, the media was horrible to Reagan and totally petty but without the power they have today to do even worse to Trump.