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Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« on: September 05, 2018, 12:04:26 pm »

President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.

Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.

“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

Read More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2018, 12:46:47 pm »
Protesting INSIDE the chamber should be against the law.

...dumb bastards...if this was Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton they'd audit the taxes of every GD parent of those arrested.

And publicize  the fact.
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2018, 01:16:09 pm »
Well, according to the article in the OP, 70 people were arrested.
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2018, 01:59:03 pm »
Well, according to the article in the OP, 70 people were arrested.

Those really are fake arrests, though.  They'll get some small fine that they'll be excited to pay -- probably actually paid for by some group - and consider it a badge of honor.

Deliberate obstruction of public roads or sidewalks, or of private businesses, etc., -- the kind of stuff that is generally passed off as just a "protest", should be illegal, and punished more harshly than it is.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2018, 02:02:42 pm »
Those really are fake arrests, though.  They'll get some small fine that they'll be excited to pay -- probably actually paid for by some group - and consider it a badge of honor.

Deliberate obstruction of public roads or sidewalks, or of private businesses, etc., -- the kind of stuff that is generally passed off as just a "protest", should be illegal, and punished more harshly than it is.

"Fake arrests"   :rolling:

They were clearly removed from the chamber despite the President saying:  "In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.”
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2018, 02:08:10 pm »
Can't open the article but I'm assuming the title is inaccurate. As usual.

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2018, 02:36:23 pm »

Also here: http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal-20180905.html

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As I thought, the title is complete bullsh*t.

The president is entitled to an opinion, just like the rest of us.

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 02:45:47 pm »
Protesting in many circumstances IS illegal...so the President's wish is granted. This is the worst kind of yellow journalism, and the perfect example of why the President's use of the term "fake news" is warranted. The media has prostituted itself to the Dem party and to socialist causes in general, and has surrendered any credibility it once had as an impartial source of information to the nation. Its sad, because a Republic really cannot survive without a truly free AND objective media.

To be crystal clear, freedom of expression and leftist street protests are not synonymous...the first is essential to the Republic, the second is often little more than an excuse for hooliganism and "look at me-ism" that pervades the millenial generation and the denizens of the far Left generally. These are not the civil rights protests of the MLK era, in which peaceful marchers are assaulted by bigoted and brutal police...protests on the left these days are more often deliberately violent, deliberate focused on vandalism, and deliberately aimed at provoking police through direct assault (throwing feces, rocks and molotov cocktails at them).

What we are seeing from Leftist protestors these days, frequently, is straightforward Brown Shirt tactics...intended to shut down free speech and create chaos, havoc and injury. Confusing that with free speech and expression is a travesty.
The headline shouldn't be an out of context quote attempting to paint the president as anti-protest, but rather, it should be the Left's ongoing strategy of genuinely suppressing free speech in the public square and on campuses which is targeted...literally...at silencing political/social opinions it disagrees with.
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 02:47:44 pm »
As I thought, the title is complete bullsh*t.

The president is entitled to an opinion, just like the rest of us.

Wow.  What a joke that hit peice is.  "suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal." 

They just make shit up now.  He never "suggested" anything like that.

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2018, 02:53:49 pm »
Wow.  What a joke that hit peice is.  "suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal." 

They just make shit up now.  He never "suggested" anything like that.

You they are.

I'd be too embarrassed to post a piece of crap like this.

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2018, 02:56:32 pm »
"Fake arrests"   :rolling:

They were clearly removed from the chamber despite the President saying:  "In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.”

If you saw the actual removals, they were with kid gloves and clearly designed not to offend.  As a result, they did indeed take longer than they should have.

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2018, 02:57:34 pm »
Protesting in many circumstances IS illegal...so the President's wish is granted. This is the worst kind of yellow journalism, and the perfect example of why the President's use of the term "fake news" is warranted. The media has prostituted itself to the Dem party and to socialist causes in general, and has surrendered any credibility it once had as an impartial source of information to the nation. Its sad, because a Republic really cannot survive without a truly free AND objective media.

To be crystal clear, freedom of expression and leftist street protests are not synonymous...the first is essential to the Republic, the second is often little more than an excuse for hooliganism and "look at me-ism" that pervades the millenial generation and the denizens of the far Left generally. These are not the civil rights protests of the MLK era, in which peaceful marchers are assaulted by bigoted and brutal police...protests on the left these days are more often deliberately violent, deliberate focused on vandalism, and deliberately aimed at provoking police through direct assault (throwing feces, rocks and molotov cocktails at them).

What we are seeing from Leftist protestors these days, frequently, is straightforward Brown Shirt tactics...intended to shut down free speech and create chaos, havoc and injury. Confusing that with free speech and expression is a travesty.
The headline shouldn't be an out of context quote attempting to paint the president as anti-protest, but rather, it should be the Left's ongoing strategy of genuinely suppressing free speech in the public square and on campuses which is targeted...literally...at silencing political/social opinions it disagrees with.

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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2018, 03:03:47 pm »
If you saw the actual removals, they were with kid gloves and clearly designed not to offend.  As a result, they did indeed take longer than they should have.

I saw the arrests on TV.  I saw nothing I'm going to criticize law enforcement over.  70 were removed and arrested.  That's the bottom line for me relative to the President's comments.
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2018, 03:13:11 pm »
I saw the arrests on TV.  I saw nothing I'm going to criticize law enforcement over.  70 were removed and arrested.  That's the bottom line for me relative to the President's comments.

Of course it is.  Because why address the broader issue raised by his comment when you can be overly-literal and criticize him for it?

The "broader issue" is that the deterrence that the law is supposed to provide isn't happening, because most courts aren't attempting to apply the laws as written.  Rather than being removed quickly, people shout and disrupt for extended periods.  When their cases come before a judge for punishment, it'll be a slap on the wrist, or sometimes nothing.  As a result, more and more of our public spaces are left to the mercy of a relatively small number of deliberate disruptors.

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2018, 03:21:03 pm »
Of course it is.  Because why address the broader issue raised by his comment when you can be overly-literal and criticize him for it?

The "broader issue" is that the deterrence that the law is supposed to provide isn't happening, because most courts aren't attempting to apply the laws as written.  Rather than being removed quickly, people shout and disrupt for extended periods.  When their cases come before a judge for punishment, it'll be a slap on the wrist, or sometimes nothing.  As a result, more and more of our public spaces are left to the mercy of a relatively small number of deliberate disruptors.

I addressed what the President actually said not some unspoken "broader issue" beyond the President's actual words.  What he actually said was:

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“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

He added: “In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.”

The point I was making was that obviously someone cared about 70 of them because they were indeed actually thrown out (and arrested).
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Re: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2018, 04:23:33 pm »
President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.

Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.

“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

Read More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html

Uh no..
Journalistic malpractice with that headline.

Implies Trump says all protesting to be illegal, when it is clear to everyone reading article that his reference is to protests within the Senate chamber.

With this headline, I call this fake news from that stawart of liberalism, the Washington Post.

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