Stop Blaming Investigators More Than Criminals for Trump’s Woes

[EasyAce]

By David French
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/stop-blaming-investigators-for-trump-woes/

At the end of a yet another tawdry, scandalous week, I’m seeing the same thing I see at the end of every other tawdry, scandalous week. Lots of folks on the right continue to believe that the true scandal is not that the president may be a felon or that he surrounded himself with actual felons, but rather that their conduct has been investigated at all.

While every investigation should be bounded by the law and Constitution, it’s past time to get over the obsession with the very existence of the Mueller investigation (or with the spinoff Cohen investigation in the Southern District of New York.) No one forced Donald Trump to hire the collection of crooks and grifters who orbited his campaign. As Trey Gowdy has pointed out, there would be a Mueller investigation without the Steele Dossier. And as I’ve written before, we cannot forget that at the very time when Russia was interfering with our election to help Trump, the candidate surrounded himself with advisers who possessed problematic Russian ties . . .

. . . I’m certainly open to the possibility that aspects of the original FBI investigation against Trump were problematic. And if an appropriate investigation of the investigators reveals real wrongdoing, then those responsible should be punished. But I’m having a hard time believing — on a week where the tally of former Trump officials who are guilty of crimes has grown to now include his former campaign chair, deputy campaign chair, national security adviser, and personal lawyer — that I should be outraged at law enforcement and not the criminals who’ve flouted American laws.

[roamer_1]

No one forced Donald Trump to hire the collection of crooks and grifters who orbited his campaign.

Birds of a feather, and all that...

[INVAR]

Birds of a feather, and all that...

True that, and Trump hands them ammunition nearly every day.

That said, I cannot help but also believe that most of this, is projection and deflection of what Obama, Hillary and the Oligarchy themselves were doing - and pining this all on Trump is the best way now, after-the-fact to try and bury anything really damning that might bubble to the surface.

It IS amazing that the staunchest Communist apologists we have in media and government, are suddenly hawks outraged by Russian actions.  They certainly had no problems with this:

[DB]

I doubt 90% of the politicians in DC could survive a thorough investigation of their taxes and business dealings without facing hard time.

The system is rigged so that it is enforced selectively against political foes instead of equally across the board to enforce the basic rule of law. But that is the nature of corruption at the highest levels of government. Trump had his chance when he entered office but he passed by saying the Clintons had "suffered enough" and "are good people" and by selecting an incompetent AG. For Trump the AG was probably the most important choice he made after being elected. He rewarded a political ally instead of the most capable person to deal with the previous administration's blatant corruption of the DOJ and FBI.

Either he was going to clean house with a no holds barred competent AG or the holdovers and press were going to take him down because he's a target rich opponent. Trump bragged about owning politicians so it was clear he greased their palms and cut corners to get things done in the NYC slime pit real estate market. All they needed was an excuse to get into his books. He gave them that opening by making hush payments to a porn star and playboy bunny during an election. Those are self inflicted wounds.

Much of it was predictable before he was elected. He was entirely unprepared for the job and how to organize/lead his cabinet. It was chaos from the beginning and hasn't stopped. It is pretty likely it will be an ugly end for Trump. We could have done much better. But in fear of Hillary people went for "who could win" and not a principled person with a plan without mountains of past baggage. But the truth was Hillary was greatly disliked by her own party. Virtually anyone that didn't piss voters off could have won. But our side didn't have the courage for it.

I'm going to make a number of people happy here today. I'm going to take some time off for a little while.

[Applewood]

@DB

I'm going to make a number of people happy here today. I'm going to take some time off for a little while.

Can't speak for others, but your leave of absence will make me unhappy.  Hope your time away will be spent in more pleasurable pursuits. 

[roamer_1]

@DB

Can't speak for others, but your leave of absence will make me unhappy.  Hope your time away will be spent in more pleasurable pursuits.

DITTOS @DB

[Bigun]

Anyone who still can't see what's going on here is either willfully blind or hopelessly dumb!

[catfish1957]

I'm going to make a number of people happy here today. I'm going to take some time off for a little while.

I'd really hope you'd stay.  Remember there are force in numbers, and there is a sizable crowd here who wants to make this an extension of TOS.

Hang in there if you can.

[Bigun]

Yeah, I know.  It's a witch hunt and innocent Trump is being targeted.   

@Applewood

You can roll your eyes and snicker all you please but what you said is true in this case! 

from r/greatawakening

Read and learn!

[roamer_1]

Yeah, I know.  It's a witch hunt and innocent Trump is being targeted.   

It IS a witch hunt - Predictable and to be expected.That's why you'd best not vote in someone who is utterly

INDEFENSIBLE.

[Bigun]

It IS a witch hunt - Predictable and to be expected.That's why you'd best not vote in someone who is utterly

INDEFENSIBLE.

@roamer_1

But in this particular case Trump is ENTIRELY defensible!  Not one scintilla of evidence has been found in well over a year that he did ANYTHING wrong here!

[DCPatriot]

It IS a witch hunt - Predictable and to be expected.That's why you'd best not vote in someone who is utterly

INDEFENSIBLE.

LOL!  Come on, man.  You're better than that.

...shoulda stopped at "witch hunt".

Now you're defense for being an unbending NT holdout is because...even though he's innocent here, he can't be defended?

 

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

But in this particular case Trump is ENDIRELY defensible!  Not one scintilla of evidence has been found in well over a year that he did ANYTHING wrong here!

You literally do not know that, @Bigun

And it also doesn't matter.
Either he will survive it or he won't, and if he does, there will be the next phase, and the next drama... Which he will have provided them.

[roamer_1]

LOL!  Come on, man.  You're better than that.

...shoulda stopped at "witch hunt".

Now you're defense for being an unbending NT holdout is because...even though he's innocent here, he can't be defended?

 

He isn't innocent anywhere (and you don't know he is innocent here at all).

[roamer_1]

@DCPatriot

I'll add: Character matters. And this is why.

[jpsb]

Anyone who still can't see what's going on here is either willfully blind or hopelessly dumb!

I am going  with "willfully blind". I guess "they" are fine with criminalizing our political system as long
as the "criminals" are their political opponents. Banana Republic here we come.

[Axeslinger]

I am going  with "willfully blind". I guess "they" are fine with criminalizing our political system as long
as the "criminals" are their political opponents. Banana Republic here we come.

Why are you ATs utterly incapable of seeing that it’s not an either/or? 

No we are not fine with criminalizing our political system

Yes we are frustrated as hell that trump has such low character that he makes it easy for them.

[roamer_1]

I am going  with "willfully blind". I guess "they" are fine with criminalizing our political system as long
as the "criminals" are their political opponents. Banana Republic here we come.

Quite the other way around. The Ken Starr investigation was like-in-kind
Did that bother you as much as this one?
Probably not. Why?

I think it is reprehensible in BOTH cases. But I also know to expect it. Because this kinda thing goes on all the time.

[jpsb]

Why are you ATs utterly incapable of seeing that it’s not an either/or? 

No we are not fine with criminalizing our political system

Yes we are frustrated as hell that trump has such low character that he makes it easy for them.

The Trump campaign, the Trump presidency and Trump himself have been under investigation
for at least two years. First by Comey's pro Hillary FBI and then by the hit man Mueller. No
evidence of ANY wrong doing by Trump. And very little evidence of any wrong doing my Trump's
associates. Flynn is not lie, Cohen did nothing wrong by getting non-disclosure agreement from
whoever. Manafort taxes were looked at by non other then Rosensteir and Manafort got a pass.
The only reason Manafort is be prosecuted is because he was briefly a campaign manager for
Trump. All of the above are criminalizing our political system. Flynn is a Trump ally prosecute him
dido every other Trump associate that ever did anything that can be turn into a crime.

In short there is no there there and yet Yall are fine with this partisan prosecution because ....... you don't like Trump.

NeverTrumpers and Rats are doing huge harm to our republic by not demanding equal justice
under the law. Trump get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (impeached) but team Hillary
gets a pass. You don't care jack about the country, constitution or the rule of law as long as the
end game is get Trump. If they can get Trump they can damn well get any other conservative they
want. They are doing to Trump what they did to Tom Delay and I don't like it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@DCPatriot

I'll add: Character matters. And this is why.

 

[jpsb]

Quite the other way around. The Ken Starr investigation was like-in-kind
Did that bother you as much as this one?
Probably not. Why?

I think it is reprehensible in BOTH cases. But I also know to expect it. Because this kinda thing goes on all the time.

After Ken Star the law was changed so that we would never again have that abuse of  power. Or
so we thought. The law now requires a SC to investigate A CRIME. Rosenstein illegally appointed
Mueller. Rosenstein is a scum bag and Sessions is a coward. FYI, I thought the entire impeach
Clinton was total BS. Also I don't buy into the well he did it so I can too argument. Two wrong
don't make it right.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Anyone who still can't see what's going on here is either willfully blind or hopelessly dumb!

Or willfully dishonest.

[jpsb]

I think it is reprehensible in BOTH cases.

BS, your first comment was, and I quote "Birds of a feather, and all that..." implying that Trump
and those around him are criminals and deserve whatever they get.

[roamer_1]

BS, your first comment was, and I quote "Birds of a feather, and all that..." implying that Trump
and those around him are criminals and deserve whatever they get.

In fact they do. Cohen is not getting railroaded - he is dealing because he has committed REAL crimes, and he is trying to save his own ass by now. The same with the others they have turned. Do you think it just a coincidence that Tump has surrounded himself with such? Really?

[XenaLee]

The Trump campaign, the Trump presidency and Trump himself have been under investigation
for at least two years. First by Comey's pro Hillary FBI and then by the hit man Mueller. No
evidence of ANY wrong doing by Trump. And very little evidence of any wrong doing my Trump's
associates. Flynn is not lie, Cohen did nothing wrong by getting non-disclosure agreement from
whoever. Manafort taxes were looked at by non other then Rosensteir and Manafort got a pass.
The only reason Manafort is be prosecuted is because he was briefly a campaign manager for
Trump. All of the above are criminalizing our political system. Flynn is a Trump ally prosecute him
dido every other Trump associate that ever did anything that can be turn into a crime.

In short there is no there there and yet Yall are fine with this partisan prosecution because ....... you don't like Trump.

NeverTrumpers and Rats are doing huge harm to our republic by not demanding equal justice
under the law. Trump get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (impeached) but team Hillary
gets a pass. You don't care jack about the country, constitution or the rule of law as long as the
end game is get Trump. If they can get Trump they can damn well get any other conservative they
want. They are doing to Trump what they did to Tom Delay and I don't like it.

I believe the old-fashioned term is "railroading".... and I have to agree with you.  It's a threat to our future freedoms if/when the rabid left AND Trump-hating RINOs can "go after" someone like Trump and get away with their unlawful (based on NO evidence pertaining to the original "excuse") witch-hunt right in our faces ..... and arrogantly continue to extend their symbolic index finger at ALL of us (the Constitution-loving and abiding American people).   I'm mad as hell and I can't figure out why everyone (here) isn't, as well.