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Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years

By Caitlin Yilek - 04/02/16 08:36 PM EDT
 

Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”
Eliminating that amount of debt in eight years is highly improbable, according to most economists, The Washington Post reported. It could require using $2 trillion a year from the annual $4 trillion budget to pay off holders of the debt.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years
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Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years

By Caitlin Yilek - 04/02/16 08:36 PM EDT
 

Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”
Eliminating that amount of debt in eight years is highly improbable, according to most economists, The Washington Post reported. It could require using $2 trillion a year from the annual $4 trillion budget to pay off holders of the debt.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years

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OBAMA is still flying around in his Air Force one, bringing up the debt...

Your president is the one flying all over the country on his never-ending campaign tour instead of staying in DC and working.  Just as Obama did when he was in president.  In fact, it's funny how very much alike the two presidents are.  Both would rather waste time on frivolities than work. 








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Your president is the one flying all over the country on his never-ending campaign tour instead of staying in DC and working.  Just as Obama did when he was in president.  In fact, it's funny how very much alike the two presidents are.  Both would rather waste time on frivolities than work.

Didn't Trump have Air Force One built for a fraction of the cost?  Just wondering.
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Didn't Trump have Air Force One built for a fraction of the cost?  Just wondering.

No, you'd have to wait till it is actually built and factor in the change orders before you can claim that.

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Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years

By Caitlin Yilek - 04/02/16 08:36 PM EDT
 

Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”
Eliminating that amount of debt in eight years is highly improbable, according to most economists, The Washington Post reported. It could require using $2 trillion a year from the annual $4 trillion budget to pay off holders of the debt.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years

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Didn't Trump have Air Force One built for a fraction of the cost?  Just wondering.

$3.9 Billion instead of $4.0 Billion.  So yes a fraction, but a rather large fraction.

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That Air Force one that Obama has, and we pay for, needs to be taken away from the faux president, fraud, still running up our debt, and undermining my president Trump by flying around the world, ending up, at the same place that TRUMP IS.  Blame the fraud, obama who is still spending, like a drunken sailor.

Obama lost access to Air Force One when Trump took over as President.

How Do Former Presidents Fly?
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The Luxurious Ways Former Presidents Travel When Air Force One Is No Longer Theirs
https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/the-luxurious-ways-former-presidents-travel-when-air-force-one-is-no-longer-theirs.html/
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@corbe The beauty of being a Trump supporter like @LegalAmerican is when someone posts data as you did and as I did, they simply summarily dismiss the data as inaccurate.  Of course, they won't explain why or offer up an alternative sources of data, they'll just simply ignore your data.  It's like an ostrich sticking his head in the sand to avoid seeing what he doesn't want to see.  Of course when you look at the world through rose colored glasses, the world always looks good when "your guy" is in charge and always looks horrible when "the other guy" is in charge because you don't care about facts or data.  Actually, it's quite sad IMO.

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Obama lost access to Air Force One when Trump took over as President.

How Do Former Presidents Fly?
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/how-former-presidents-fly/
February 3rd, 2017

The Luxurious Ways Former Presidents Travel When Air Force One Is No Longer Theirs
https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/the-luxurious-ways-former-presidents-travel-when-air-force-one-is-no-longer-theirs.html/
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Air Force One is ONLY Air Force One when a current President is on it.

The ignorance is strong in that one....  **nononono*
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Your president is the one flying all over the country on his never-ending campaign tour instead of staying in DC and working.  Just as Obama did when he was in president.  In fact, it's funny how very much alike the two presidents are.  Both would rather waste time on frivolities than work.

The similarities between the two men is quite remarkable, actually.

And the similarity between their devotees.................... well, pretty much identical.
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@corbe The beauty of being a Trump supporter like @LegalAmerican is when someone posts data as you did and as I did, they simply summarily dismiss the data as inaccurate.  Of course, they won't explain why or offer up an alternative sources of data, they'll just simply ignore your data.  It's like an ostrich sticking his head in the sand to avoid seeing what he doesn't want to see.  Of course when you look at the world through rose colored glasses, the world always looks good when "your guy" is in charge and always looks horrible when "the other guy" is in charge because you don't care about facts or data.  Actually, it's quite sad IMO.


And Obama said,  he would cut the deficit in half, in 2 and a half years, and if not, he would be a ONE TERM PRESIDENT.
No head in sand. I posted at least twice. We see it. How is that head in sand? Then dismiss all the other information given.
It seems you all, are indicting yourselves.  No mention of what is coming INTO our country, business's, past due U.N. payments, tariffs coming in from "nafta", and president cutting expenses.  Why is all the good information dismissed? 
(Obama flying around in his AF ONE, costing us more money, undermining my president Trump. Obama, STILL SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS being frivolous, spending like drunken sailor, still)


Again, I said, talk to me after 8 years are up, not after 20 months. That is what is sad about people. They think it is sport bashing the president.  The first year was getting in his cabinet, getting settled in a new job, which he takes NO PAY FOR.  Stock market doing great.  My list of president Trumps accomplishments has been removed as "spam". That is another SAD thing.
President Trump is doing great things. It is a shame so few are patriots. Many other people from other country's post, "wish they had a president Trump". France, Australia, Canada, Philippines, a lot of other countries. Americans have lost their way. I say spoiled, and have no clue, how others live. Venezuela, Cuba, more.

I Haven't lost my way,  coming from a socialist country and me and my family starving. SAD. No rose colored glasses.   I value and respect my president. Oh, the horror. I feel, people think bashing the president, makes them feel "smart" Not. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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The similarities between the two men is quite remarkable, actually.

And the similarity between their devotees.................... well, pretty much identical.

exactly
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And Obama said, in he would cut the deficit in half by 2 and a half years, and if not, he would be a ONE TERM PRESIDENT.
No head in sand. I posted at least twice. We see it. How is that head in sand? Then dismiss all the other information given.
It seems you all, are indicting yourselves.  No mention of what is coming INTO our country, business's, past due U.N. payments, tariffs coming in from "nafta", and president cutting expenses.  Why is all the good information dismissed? 

Again, I said, talk to me after 8 years are up, not after 20 months. That is what is sad about people. They think it is sport bashing the president.  The first year was getting in his cabinet, getting settled in a new job, which he takes NO PAY FOR.  Stock market doing great.  My list of president Trumps accomplishments has been removed as "spam". That is another SAD thing.
President Trump is doing great things. It is a shame so few are patriots. Many other people from other country's post, "wish they had a president Trump". France, Australia, Canada, Philippines, a lot of other countries. Americans have lost their way. I say spoiled, and have no clue, how others live. Venezuela, Cuba, more.

I Haven't lost my way,  coming from a socialist country and me and my family starving. SAD. No rose colored glasses.   I value and respect my president. Oh, the horror. I feel, people think bashing the president, makes them feel "smart" Not. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

There is nothing more toxic to our future and massive deficit spending and government corruption (DOJ and FBI are at the top of the list). It is the core of what happened to the socialist country you came from. Trump has done nothing so far about either of these top priority issues. Everything else is window dressing that doesn't take the hard work to achieve.

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Obama lost access to Air Force One when Trump took over as President.

How Do Former Presidents Fly?
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/how-former-presidents-fly/
February 3rd, 2017

The Luxurious Ways Former Presidents Travel When Air Force One Is No Longer Theirs
https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/the-luxurious-ways-former-presidents-travel-when-air-force-one-is-no-longer-theirs.html/
May 12, 2018



Wrong. When president Trump went for the "G 20' meeting in Europe,  there were two AF one's, on the tarmac. They may not call obamas, AF one, any more, but he still flys around in one. That is why a "new" AF one had to be created for new president. I saw the pictures of them both in Europe. If you want to get technical, go right ahead, or play SEMANTICS.
I am posting by memory, this is not SCHOOL is it?  Because it is not "G 20" anymore, does not make my information wrong. 
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[G20] Two AIR FORCE ONE landing in Hamburg for G20 ... - YouTube

Two "Air Force One" landed today at Hamburg airport, bringing the President and US delegation to the city of Hamburg, Germany, where the G20 summit 2017 take...
Search domain www.youtube.comhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoaDFQdPsoU


Is President Obama flying on Air Force One more than other ...
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They think it is sport bashing the president. 

He makes it easy and hands the ammunition to his critics almost daily.

My list of president Trumps accomplishments has been removed as "spam". That is another SAD thing.

You are certainly welcome to start and pay for your own forum, instead of spamming this one and two others, then you will not have to be 'sad' anymore.   You will be in complete control of your own content!

President Trump is doing great things. It is a shame so few are patriots.

He said he didn't need us.  His hordes of sycophants have repeated that time and again, right after blaming us for any failures Trump suffers.

Oh, the horror. I feel, people think bashing the president, makes them feel "smart" Not.

Well, unlike in the Socialist country you claim to have come from... starving... we are entitled to bash the president and the critters in government as often as we like and for any reason we want to bash them.  In this country - that IS patriotic.  Freedom of political speech and all.
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Wrong. When president Trump went for the "G 20' meeting in Europe,  there were two AF one's, on the tarmac. They may not call obamas, AF one, any more, but he still flys around in one. That is why a "new" AF one had to be created for new president. I saw the pictures of them both in Europe. If you want to get technical, go right ahead, or play SEMANTICS.
I am posting by memory, this is not SCHOOL is it?  Because it is not "G 20" anymore, does not make my information wrong. 
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[G20] Two AIR FORCE ONE landing in Hamburg for G20 ... - YouTube

Two "Air Force One" landed today at Hamburg airport, bringing the President and US delegation to the city of Hamburg, Germany, where the G20 summit 2017 take...
Search domain www.youtube.comhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoaDFQdPsoU


Is President Obama flying on Air Force One more than other ...

You are grossly mistaken...bordering on purposely lying about this.

Former Presidents do not have access to any aircraft in the 89th Airlift Wing (The unit that has the Presidential aircraft fleet) once they are out of office.

The ONLY way they get to ride AF 1 is if they are invited by the CURRENT President or the CURRENT President authorizes it's use as part of the funeral for a former President as was the case for President's For and Reagan.


You're full of bullsh*t if you stand by your stupid claim that Obama still gets to fly on AF 1 or any of the other planes in the Presidential fleet.

It just does not happen.
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Well, unlike in the Socialist country you claim to have come from... starving... we are entitled to bash the president and the critters in government as often as we like and for any reason we want to bash them.  In this country - that IS patriotic.  Freedom of political speech and all.

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$3.9 Billion instead of $4.0 Billion.  So yes a fraction, but a rather large fraction.


 More baloney from FAKE NEWS.  There were two negotiations going on. One was for new AF ONE,,the other for planes for our military.  The price was reduced by president Trumps negotiations, on BOTH DEALS. Then on later deals Lockheed Martin reneged on the price.  Not on president TRUMP.  I tried to get my other computer fixed. The young man did not know how. When I post my correct information from the past, it is removed from my files.
Difficult to prove things now, with so much being removed from the internet. People don't even know, deep state is still in "charge" and try all they can, to remove real facts. The sheep, N.T.'s follow along.  ****sheep****

You all willingly "walk into the ovens". Amazing to me.

President TRUMP was working on our behalf, before he was inaugurated. No LEFT, LYING, media will give him any credit. By now, some of you should be wiser.  All good thing's happening, have nothing to do with president TRUMP, right?
Not even common sense, thinking. All of it is happening as if by magic, while having a DEMOCRATIC and RINO congress , stopping all of his policy's. lol Trump was working on helping this country back in 2016! Before being president. President Trump is a worker, and works 100 hour weeks, for no pay!  800 thousand, saved on that alone.
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Wrong. When president Trump went for the "G 20' meeting in Europe,  there were two AF one's, on the tarmac.

Both Registration numbers 82-8000 and 92-9000 were for the Trump delegation.  Obama didn't even go to the G20 in 2017.
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"$3.9 Billion instead of $4.0 Billion.  So yes a fraction, but a rather large fraction."  as quoted by Thackney


 More baloney from FAKE NEWS.  There were two negotiations going on. One was for new AF ONE,,the other for planes for our military.  The price was reduced by president Trumps negotiations, on BOTH DEALS. Then on later deals Lockheed Martin reneged on the price.  Not on president TRUMP.  I tried to get my other computer fixed. The young man did not know how. When I post my correct information from the past, it is removed from my files.


http://fortune.com/2016/12/10/air-force-one-actual-cost/

LOL....just waiting for you to call Fortune Magazine fake news or a NT site.  Geez your are a bozo.
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Air Force One

Air Force One is the air traffic call sign (name) of any U.S. Air Force aircraft carrying the President of the United States.

The president usually flies in one of the two specially changed Boeing 747 jumbo jets (airplane) kept by the United States Air Force.

They are only called Air Force One when the President is on board. If the Vice President or another senior official is flying it is called Air Force Two. Otherwise it is called by its number like any other airplane.

When Richard Nixon resigned as President in 1974 he flew back to his home in California in Air Force One, but halfway to California he stopped being President and the airplane was then given a new name.

Hate to quote Wiki, but it was the quickest reference.

The plane is only called AF1  WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS ON IT.   Therefore, unless Obama was riding in the plane WITH Trump, he is NOT on AF1.

I hope that is clear to the Spam Queen here......   *****rollingeyes*****
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