60 former CIA officials sign letter condemning Trump's treatment of Brennan

[XenaLee]

Is that what "security clearance" means instant access to everything with no checks?

Well what does it mean to you?   Just a symbolic gesture?  No, I take it as including everything you give trusted CURRENT employees (only).

[Bigun]

So who is sending them classified info after they leave?  Fire that guy.

They will need to know when they are called back to serve again.

IF they are ever called back they can get a new clearance. 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html

According to a Government Accountability Office report, about 4.2 million people had or were eligible for a security clearance by October 2015, as estimated by the ODNI.

One down, 4,199,999 to go.  Thank You President Trump.  I feel safer.

[XenaLee]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html

According to a Government Accountability Office report, about 4.2 million people had or were eligible for a security clearance by October 2015, as estimated by the ODNI.

One down, 4,199,999 to go.  Thank You President Trump.  I feel safer.

Please.... it's already common knowledge that Big Government is inefficient and stupid to the core.... a la too big to succeed style.   Don't remind us. 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Well what does it mean to you?   Just a symbolic gesture?  No, I take it as including everything you give trusted CURRENT employees (only).

It means logic.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html

How long do they last?

Security clearances are subject to renewal every few years, though they theoretically can last a person’s entire life.

For example, the Department of Defense says a Period Reinvestigation (PR) must occur every five years for a top secret clearance, 10 years for a secret clearance and 15 years for a confidential clearance.
Why do former officials even still have security clearances?

Just because an official has left the federal government, doesn’t mean his or her security clearance is automatically revoked. In many cases, clearances remain automatically “active” for up to several years.

Former National Security Council staffer Elliott Abrams said he and others continued to keep their security clearances even after the Bush administration “for at least a year” because “the incoming Obama White House thought that in the early months of a new administration, we might have some useful insights to impart – information about how past events had developed, or impressions of top people in foreign governments—and our successors wanted to be able to discuss classified information with us and elicit our views.”

“It’s not so much a benefit to the person. It’s more of a benefit to the particular government officials that would need some insight from times prior to them," Berry explained.

Moss also pointed out that someone maintaining their clearance after leaving office doesn’t necessarily have access to classified information – unless a current agency requests it.

Why can't the Trump Davidians just admit this is payback for speaking against the President and they are fine with the President punishing his domestic political enemies.  Ya'll are looking deranged.

[Bigun]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html

According to a Government Accountability Office report, about 4.2 million people had or were eligible for a security clearance by October 2015, as estimated by the ODNI.

One down, 4,199,999 to go.  Thank You President Trump.  I feel safer.

I strongly suspect that 4.2 million number is grossly wrong on the low side.  There are probably a 100 million eligible for a clearance IF they had a  need to know.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I strongly suspect that 4.2 million number is grossly wrong on the low side.  There are probably a 100 million eligible for a clearance IF they had a  need to know.

Not sure how to respond to this, so thanx for your opinion.

[jpsb]

IF they are ever called back they can get a new clearance.

The only people that should keep their clearance are retired military officers. They can be called back
into service at any time. I would include high ranking enlisted if they also can be called back into
service. I know then I got out I spent 4 years on inactive reserve so for those 4 years I was subject
to being called back at any time.

[jpsb]

It means logic.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html
Why can't the Trump Davidians just admit this is payback for speaking against the President and they are fine with the President punishing his domestic political enemies.  Ya'll are looking deranged.

Brennan lied to Congress and leaked classified info. Both are felonies. Felons should not have a
security clearance. The man is a loon.

[Frank Cannon]

LOL. 60 has been Statist govt' desk jockies are upset with Trump. What a shock.

[Bigun]

It means logic.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html
Why can't the Trump Davidians just admit this is payback for speaking against the President and they are fine with the President punishing his domestic political enemies.  Ya'll are looking deranged.

I'm far from a "Trump Davidian" but certainly do wish people like yourself (democrats) could get a grip and understand the importance of actual security in this Republic.

[XenaLee]

It means logic.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/16/what-are-security-clearances-and-why-do-some-former-officials-still-have-them.html
Why can't the Trump Davidians just admit this is payback for speaking against the President and they are fine with the President punishing his domestic political enemies.  Ya'll are looking deranged.

That's not logic... it's anti-Trump BIAS. 

And if you're insinuating that I'm a member of a pro-Trump cult... you'd be wrong about that, too.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

LOL. 60 has been Statist govt' desk jockies are upset with Trump. What a shock.

Add them to the enemies list.

[Bigun]

Add them to the enemies list.

See! You prove my point that YOU have no acquaintance with logic at all!  Since when does a lack of need to know make one an enemy?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I'm far from a "Trump Davidian" but certainly do wish people like yourself (democrats) could get a grip and understand the importance of actual security in this Republic.

I'm not an apologist for either party.  You just said 1/3 of America is qualified for a security clearance.  I suppose this is Trump's first step on a journey of a thousand miles. 
Just a coincidence it starts with one his most vocal critics.   

[Bigun]

I'm not an apologist for either party.  You just said 1/3 of America is qualified for a security clearance.  I suppose this is Trump's first step on a journey of a thousand miles. 
Just a coincidence it starts with one his most vocal critics.   

And those who have proven many times that they are untrustworthy and/or have broken the law.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

See! You prove my point that YOU have no acquaintance with logic at all!  Since when does a lack of need to know make one an enemy?

When they are also 60 has been Statist govt' desk jockies upset with Trump.  Did you not read the post I quoted?

add them to the enemies list

[TomSea]

It seems I heard this morning, security clearance equals more compensation. There is a lot to this story.

Brennan, CIA 'Kool-Aid drinkers' blasted by Benghazi terror survivor

...

The former Army Ranger and CIA contractor who lived to tell the tale of the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya, said Mr. Brennan essentially got off easy when President Trump revoked his security clearance.

Mr. Paronto lost his security clearance years ago for telling his account of the attack.

Read more at: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/17/john-brennan-cia-kool-aid-drinkers-blasted-by-beng/

[Formerly Once-Ler]

And those who have proven many times that they are untrustworthy and/or have broken the law.

Who is saying the incarcerated should have security clearances?  You're all over the place man.

[XenaLee]

I'm not an apologist for either party.  You just said 1/3 of America is qualified for a security clearance.  I suppose this is Trump's first step on a journey of a thousand miles. 
Just a coincidence it starts with one his most vocal critics.   

As it should.   Neither Trump nor ANY president is required or expected to keep his most vocal enemies and detractors on the payroll... much LESS leave them with their security clearance.

You're just plain wrong on this issue, dude.

[Bigun]

Who is saying the incarcerated should have security clearances?  You're all over the place man.

Nope! But either you have a serious problem with reading comprehension or are just prone to making things up.

[truth_seeker]

Brennan lied to Congress and leaked classified info. Both are felonies. Felons should not have a
security clearance. The man is a loon.

Loon or not, he's a fave today of NTers, Strrzok lovers, and anything to oppose this President, duly elected by the Electoral College, per the Constitution,, and expressing the will of voters in 30 states.



Brennan is like Strrzok; thinks he is better, smarrter than voters.


Resident Usual Suspect NTerr is a Brennan Strrzok flunky.

[Blizzardnh]

I'm not an apologist for either party.  You just said 1/3 of America is qualified for a security clearance.  I suppose this is Trump's first step on a journey of a thousand miles. 
Just a coincidence it starts with one his most vocal critics.   

I found you the new home you're looking for.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/

[Wingnut]

I found you the new home you're looking for.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/

Nah,  not yet.  But he lives in an area where Liberal/progressive group think is seriously frightening.  Its evil maybe oozing over him like maple syrup.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I found you the new home you're looking for.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/

Both parties suck.  figure it out.