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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2018, 01:19:36 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on August 14, 2018, 12:46:08 am
Victoria wrote:
"If Democrats take the majority of the House, they will do it, he will be impeached.  The Senate would have to hold "court" to convict and there won't be 2/3 of the senate to vote for that."

Assuming there remains a Republican majority in the Senate, could the Senate then REFUSE to hold a trial?

Sure.  Whether that would pass constitutional muster or not in theory is irrelevant because there is no mechanism to force them to do it if they don't want to.  What they could do is basically dismiss the charges as a matter of law.  Pass a resolution stating that the alleged crime does not constitute a high crime or misdemeanor even if the facts are proven, so holding a trial to go through the facts is pointless.  Same thing as when a criminal judge dismisses a case prior to trial despite an indictment.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2018, 02:15:23 pm »
Quote from: DB on August 14, 2018, 04:35:05 am
If Trump were really the hardcore leader he claimed to be he would have opened the Clinton foundation up to an actual independent no holds barred investigation from the beginning.

That would have taken out half if not more of Washington D.C.

The smoking crater would have been a sight to behold.

But instead he's self-immolating in full view.

It's like ..... he wants to (and enjoys) making ""some"" waves...... but that (investigating the Clintons, his former good friends).... would be a wave too far or something. 

I don't get it.  And not being able to figure out something about someone makes me very uneasy about that someone.  Always has.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2018, 02:27:11 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 14, 2018, 02:15:23 pm
It's like ..... he wants to (and enjoys) making ""some"" waves...... but that (investigating the Clintons, his former good friends).... would be a wave too far or something. 

I don't get it.  And not being able to figure out something about someone makes me very uneasy about that someone.  Always has.

Is it Trump or Sessions who is holding back on investigating/prosecuting the Clintons?  I think we know the answer to that - if Trump wanted it done and Sessions didn't, Trump would have been tweeting about it for a year+ now. 
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2018, 02:31:48 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 14, 2018, 02:27:11 pm
Is it Trump or Sessions who is holding back on investigating/prosecuting the Clintons?  I think we know the answer to that - if Trump wanted it done and Sessions didn't, Trump would have been tweeting about it for a year+ now.

Trump is.  He is the one that spent the entire campaign talking about "Crooked Hillary" and how he was going to order his AG to investigate her.

Soon as he won...it was "they're good people and she's suffered enough".
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2018, 02:46:09 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 14, 2018, 02:27:11 pm
Is it Trump or Sessions who is holding back on investigating/prosecuting the Clintons?  I think we know the answer to that - if Trump wanted it done and Sessions didn't, Trump would have been tweeting about it for a year+ now.

Good point.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2018, 04:12:55 pm »
I don't know the answer to this, but it is possible that a President ordering a criminal investigation into a specific individual could run afoul of some ethical or legal obligation, perhaps opening up the government to a charge of malicious prosecution.

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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2018, 04:31:45 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on August 14, 2018, 04:12:55 pm
I don't know the answer to this, but it is possible that a President ordering a criminal investigation into a specific individual could run afoul of some ethical or legal obligation, perhaps opening up the government to a charge of malicious prosecution.

I believe President Trump is trying not to break the deep state’s rules of political kabuk. With everyone gunning for him, it’s probably a smart thing to avoid setting something in motion that might/could gain traction and result in unwanted effects – like impeachment or worse, forced resignation.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2018, 04:50:15 pm »
The Real Scandal Is Global Crossing - Not Enron

McAuliffe was able to turn a 18,000% profit on a two-year investment in a company that went bankrupt right after he cashed out.  This was far bigger than Enron, but since Democrats were involved, no one cares.

Personally, I owned GBLX stock at the time.  All of my investment ended up in Terry McAuliffe's pocket - some of which was used to finance the purchase of the Clinton's house in Chappaqua, NY.

Terry McAuliffe should have gotten 40 years hard time in federal PMITA prison for what he did.  Instead, he is a Democrat Party hero.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2018, 05:59:40 pm »
No good deed goes unpunished. End quote.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2018, 06:03:11 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on August 14, 2018, 04:12:55 pm
I don't know the answer to this, but it is possible that a President ordering a criminal investigation into a specific individual could run afoul of some ethical or legal obligation, perhaps opening up the government to a charge of malicious prosecution.
The important thing is Trump has no control over DC, despite his skill stack.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2018, 04:46:15 pm »
The Dems have been trying to impeach Trump since he won the Republican nomination for president. Trump has tried to befriend Putin and Russia largely because it is biblically scriptural, i.e., "love thy enemies". Why must America and Russia be eternally at odds? As a Christian, Trump is commanded by God to be a peace-maker, not a war-monger. It worked with Kim Jung Un and North Korea, or we might have some U.S. cities smouldering in their ashes right now. Trump, despite his personality foibles, is doing the right thing for this nation. Just look how things have ALREADY turned around in this country! The Dems are at their wit's end, as the more time winds on, the more successful and prosperous our country is, then their "solutions" are rendered obsolete. We can see this even now. GO TRUMP! FOR YOU ARE TRULY MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2018, 04:54:55 pm »
Quote from: Timothy Dennis on August 15, 2018, 04:46:15 pm
The Dems have been trying to impeach Trump since he won the Republican nomination for president. Trump has tried to befriend Putin and Russia largely because it is biblically scriptural, i.e., "love thy enemies". Why must America and Russia be eternally at odds? As a Christian, Trump is commanded by God to be a peace-maker, not a war-monger. It worked with Kim Jung Un and North Korea, or we might have some U.S. cities smouldering in their ashes right now. Trump, despite his personality foibles, is doing the right thing for this nation. Just look how things have ALREADY turned around in this country! The Dems are at their wit's end, as the more time winds on, the more successful and prosperous our country is, then their "solutions" are rendered obsolete. We can see this even now. GO TRUMP! FOR YOU ARE TRULY MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2018, 05:03:33 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on August 15, 2018, 04:54:55 pm
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It will be hilarious to compare that analysis with what the same folks will say in the near future to justify actual warfare against the Norks or China or whomever else Trump decides we need to go to war against when and if his little trade war goes hot.

Then it will be fun to watch them spin the whole 'love thy enemies' reference they are using now as not applicable to the combat Trump will order.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2018, 05:43:05 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on August 13, 2018, 06:17:26 pm
This dirtbag loser McAuliffe is just a honky version of Maxine Water.  'peach furddy5.

Good description of McAuliffe.  There are no grounds for impeachment of Trump and they know it.  They just like stirring up porridge.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2018, 05:46:53 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on August 14, 2018, 04:20:46 am
Once-Ler wrote:
"A GOP majority Senate refused to hold a trial against a rat President Clinton 20 years ago.  You'd think they'd do the same for President Trump."

They DID "hold the trial" (don't you remember, with William Rehnquist presiding?).
They didn't hold an -effective- one, however.

But my post above refers to a different option:
Could the Senate -- once presented with "charges" from the House -- simply "reject" the charges and hold no trial at all?

Not sure if the Republicans didn't make a good case or if the outcome was pre-determined but it was a fun time.  Who was that Senator who quoted Shakespeare at the end?  I also think I remember Fred Dalton Thompson ... but maybe not.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2018, 05:50:34 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on August 15, 2018, 05:46:53 pm
Not sure if the Republicans didn't make a good case or if the outcome was pre-determined but it was a fun time.  Who was that Senator who quoted Shakespeare at the end?  I also think I remember Fred Dalton Thompson ... but maybe not.

I don't know but Arlen Specter referenced Scottish Law.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2018, 06:57:19 pm »
Quote from: Timothy Dennis on August 15, 2018, 04:46:15 pm
The Dems have been trying to impeach Trump since he won the Republican nomination for president. Trump has tried to befriend Putin and Russia largely because it is biblically scriptural, i.e., "love thy enemies". Why must America and Russia be eternally at odds? As a Christian, Trump is commanded by God to be a peace-maker, not a war-monger. It worked with Kim Jung Un and North Korea, or we might have some U.S. cities smouldering in their ashes right now. Trump, despite his personality foibles, is doing the right thing for this nation. Just look how things have ALREADY turned around in this country! The Dems are at their wit's end, as the more time winds on, the more successful and prosperous our country is, then their "solutions" are rendered obsolete. We can see this even now. GO TRUMP! FOR YOU ARE TRULY MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Welcome and good post. I agree with your points. I think Trump sincerely wishes to restore America to greatness and not go round the world looking to start fights. It’s a shame more republicans don’t give him more respect and more help with his agenda to turn government away from the dreadful path it’s been on.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2018, 07:04:46 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on August 15, 2018, 06:57:19 pm
and not go round the world looking to start fights.

And yet that's all he seems to do with our allies as well as our enemies.  One I have no problem with and the other is just bad foreign policy via twitter.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2018, 07:30:34 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on August 14, 2018, 05:04:24 am
Are you arguing because I'm saying it?  The Senate voted 100-0 to hear no witnesses.  Whatever Fish.   :shrug:
I remember that action very clearly, like it was yesterday.  They said they didn't need witnesses because the evidence was already there...two or three Republicans and zero Rats actually looked at it.  It was pretty obvious the fix was in for Bubba.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2018, 09:10:29 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 15, 2018, 07:30:34 pm
I remember that action very clearly, like it was yesterday.  They said they didn't need witnesses because the evidence was already there...two or three Republicans and zero Rats actually looked at it.  It was pretty obvious the fix was in for Bubba.

The biggest takeaway is that Senate Democrats had the opportunity to put Algore in the White House.  And without exception, every single one of them voted 'No'.
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Re: McAuliffe: ‘We ought to look at’ impeachment of Trump
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2018, 09:19:12 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 15, 2018, 09:10:29 pm
The biggest takeaway is that Senate Democrats had the opportunity to put Algore in the White House.  And without exception, every single one of them voted 'No'.

Lol, that might have been the issue.
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