PETER STRZOK FIRED FOR ANTI-TRUMP TEXTS

[Victoria33]

I believe it is against the law for any public official to abuse his office for political reasons and I will be VERY surprised if Mr. Strozk doesn't find himself facing criminal charges for having done just that.

"..to abuse his office"

Documented "abuse" is a reason for firing - an action he took - writing the messages is not "abuse".  I just saw on TV the FBI gave NO reason(s) for his firing.

[Wingnut]

"..to abuse his office"

Documented "abuse" is a reason for firing - an action he took - writing the messages is not "abuse".  I just saw on TV the FBI gave NO reason(s) for his firing.

So are you going to contribute to the smirking jerkoff's defense fund. 

[XenaLee]

I'm voting, I never said I was not voting or not being involved.   I'm just not voting for Republicans.

As to the public - we are irrelevant as far has the Alphabets go.  They have their own fiefdoms and are populated by Obamanistas in lifelong career positions as political officers.

You're not going to be getting rid of the bulk of those whom now have weaponized Agencies to be used for political warfare.

You're probably right.   We only know about the tip of that iceberg.  There are probably dozens (hundreds?) of other equally biased and partisan 'Strzok clones' in those agencies, holding on for dear life (like ticks)... and keeping their mouths shut, deleting their emails and hoping they won't be discovered while a Republican dwells in the White House.

As for the voting thing, I stand corrected.   

[WilliamVA]

Under current civil service rules, it is damned near impossible to fire a government employee with more than 6 months on the job.

Note that they Never said what his GS level was, leads one to believe he was excepted service.  The common GS-Career Service are
difficult to dismiss, Excepted service have all the benefits of Career Service, but can be dismissed with or without cause.  The left will make a big wind about his dismissal, but it's just wind.  They had already fired Page, didn't hear a windstorm about that did we.  Oh! Senior Executive Service, and Executive Service can be fired at the drop of a hat.

[XenaLee]

Note that they Never said what his GS level was, leads one to believe he was excepted service.  The common GS-Career Service are
difficult to dismiss, Excepted service have all the benefits of Career Service, but can be dismissed with or without cause.  The left will make a big wind about his dismissal, but it's just wind.  They had already fired Page, didn't hear a windstorm about that did we.  Oh! Senior Executive Service, and Executive Service can be fired at the drop of a hat.

So, is there any way to find out what level of service he had?

[thackney]

"..to abuse his office"

Documented "abuse" is a reason for firing - an action he took - writing the messages is not "abuse".  I just saw on TV the FBI gave NO reason(s) for his firing.

What about 50,000 personal texts on company issued phones, mostly during business hours?  Averaging over 100 texts a day?

[Cyber Liberty]

While it wasn't illegal to send the texts he did, it was really stupid to demonstrate his bias against the subject of an investigation he was not only a member of, but the boss.  Being really stupid is a fire-able offense.

[Cyber Liberty]

"..to abuse his office"

Documented "abuse" is a reason for firing - an action he took - writing the messages is not "abuse".  I just saw on TV the FBI gave NO reason(s) for his firing.

I don't know that they have to.  The guys who know the Civil Service rules are better sources than I for that.

[INVAR]

There are probably dozens (hundreds?) of other equally biased and partisan 'Strzok clones' in those agencies...

Thousands.

They have spent decades installing themselves in those agencies.

Presidents come and go.  Congressional control swaps back and forth.  Alphabets remain.

These are majority lifelong career jobs outside the purview of accountability to the American people beyond whatever 'leader' is confirmed to place his name on a door for a few years.

They have been politically weaponized, since at least Clinton's first term.

[Hoodat]

What about 50,000 personal texts on company issued phones, mostly during business hours?  Averaging over 100 texts a day?

DING DING DING !!!  WE HAVE A WINNER !!!

[Suppressed]

He's already started a GoFundMe begging page...
https://www.gofundme.com/peterstrzok

$13,464 of $150,000 goal in 2 hours.

I'm sure it will more than meet its goal.

[Hoodat]

This should put additional strain on the marriage.

[Victoria33]

So are you going to contribute to the smirking jerkoff's defense fund.

@The Ghost

Reporting facts - not taking sides.

[Victoria33]

What about 50,000 personal texts on company issued phones, mostly during business hours?  Averaging over 100 texts a day?

Of course, a company can make a rule the employee cannot use a company phone for anything except business.  That was not the case here.

[Victoria33]

I don't know that they have to.  The guys who know the Civil Service rules are better sources than I for that.

@Cyber Liberty

They may not have to, however, it leaves the public wondering.

[thackney]

Of course, a company can make a rule the employee cannot use a company phone for anything except business.  That was not the case here.

But they may consider excessive personal time during working hours and issue as well.

[Bigun]

@Victoria33 @XenaLee @thackney @Cyber Liberty  all

Hatch Act of 1939

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939

In 1993 the advocates for removing or modifying restrictions on the political activities of federal employees succeeded in enacting the Hatch Act Reform Amendments of 1993 (107 Stat. 1001) that removed the prohibition on participation in "political management or political campaigns." Federal employees are still forbidden to use their authority to affect the results of an election. They are also forbidden to run for office in a partisan election, to solicit or receive political contributions, and to engage in political activities while on duty or on federal property[/quote]

[Emjay]

FBI agent Peter Strzok has been fired from the FBI for anti-Trump text messages he sent his mistress and colleague Lisa Page during the 2016 presidential election.

“Late Friday afternoon, the Deputy Director of the FBI overruled the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) and departed from established precedent by firing 21-year FBI veteran Peter Strzok,” his lawyer Aitan Goelman said in a statement.”

Strzok’s text messages to Page revealed significant bias against then candidate Donald Trump and even one in which he pledged “we’ll stop” him from becoming president. Strzok played a central role in the investigation of the Trump 2016 campaign and its alleged ties to the Russian government along with the inquiry into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

Strzok was also briefly employed by special counsel Robert Mueller but was removed from the investigation because of his text messages and dalliance with a colleague.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/13/peter-strzok-fired-for-anti-trump-texts/

[Emjay]

I really wanted to slap him during the hearings, but this works too.

[Bigun]

You are WAY late to this party @Emjay

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,328055.msg1766010.html#msg1766010

[Emjay]

You are WAY late to this party @Emjay

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,328055.msg1766010.html#msg1766010

Dam.  Is all the food gone?

[Mod5]

Topics merged.

@Bigun is in charge of food.

[Emjay]

This is interesting.  The FBI has been protecting Strzok this whole time.  Even the FBI director recommended only a demotion and suspension.  Yet someone overruled the FBI director and fired Strzok.

It is interesting.  I posted a thread in politics and I still think that is where this topic belongs but, oh, well.

Strzok was a stain on the FBI and there have been far too many stains on that once vaunted organization lately. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Peter Strzok Reacts To Firing On Newly Created Twitter Account
Daily Caller, Aug 13, 2018, Chuck Ross

Former FBI official Peter Strzok has reacted to his firing from the FBI, saying on a newly-created Twitter account that he was “deeply saddened” by the decision.

Strzok, the former deputy chief of counterintelligence, was fired Friday following an investigation into anti-Trump text messages he exchanged with his mistress, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

“It has been an honor to serve my country and work with the fine men and women of the FBI,” Strzok wrote, linking to a Go Fund Me page that has been set up to raise money on his behalf.

Jennifer Kay, a spokeswoman for Strzok’s attorney, confirmed the authenticity of the account.

More:  http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/13/peter-strzok-twitter-account/

[Emjay]

I just saw on TV, the FBI gave no reason for firing him.
His lawyer says it can't be the private messages he sent. I had already written the below that it can't be the messages, when I saw this on TV, 11:07 am.  Here is what I was writing when I saw this on TV:

The problem they had in trying to fire him was, it is not against the law, or rules of the Justice Department, to send a text or email to someone and express a personal opinion about a candidate for president or a sitting president or the fact you hate broccoli.  I haven't researched to find their stated reason(s) for this firing, but it can't be due to those messages; it has to be an action he took that violated their rules. (Now, there is no reason to search for the reasons, as the FBI didn't give any.)

If you on this thread have a job, you can send personal texts, emails, to anyone you want to express your opinion on a subject, including whatever is happening in your company.  It is called, freedom of speech.  Now, if you send the president of your company a message that you hate his guts, the outcome of that is, you may lose your job.  It wasn't a law or rule you broke, it was your less than smart message to your company president.

How about the fact that he sent those texts to another member of the FBI and that they referred to 'stopping Trump.'

That should be punishable in any sane universe.