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IMO, Obama getting to be POTUS for eight years emboldened the Left. 

By the Congress and Justice Department being cowed/castrated by Obama's skin tone, they completely ignored the high crimes of that Administration.

There's no way a candidate for President's past should be allowed to remain a mystery to most people.  And yet, nobody ever saw him or heard of him at Columbia university.

All along, they thought ...if it worked for a black man, it'll be a snap for a woman...especially a 'Clinton'.

If they would have gone strictly by the book...his ass would STILL be in jail.   'Burning' American cities be damned!

Hey @DCPatriot  I could not agree more.  The media should take much of the blame but where were the Republicans?  And where was the public?

We know NOTHING about the real Obama.  You can bet that if Trump had been a candidate against him, he would have tweeted so much it couldn't have been ignored.
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The States elected Obama.  Nothing unconstitutional about it.  If you believe your State should not have qualified Obama as a legitimate candidate, then you should have taken that up with your State long before either of the elections.
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    Can we get this Thread back on Topic
    I rather thought the "Tuna Smell' thing showed promise and was slightly disappointed that didn't catch.
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The States elected Obama.  Nothing unconstitutional about it.  If you believe your State should not have qualified Obama as a legitimate candidate, then you should have taken that up with your State long before either of the elections.

It was tried.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation#State

Donofrio v. Wells

In October 2008, Leo Donofrio, an attorney from New Jersey, filed suit against Nina Mitchell Wells, the Secretary of State of New Jersey, to challenge the eligibility of Obama, Republican presidential candidate John McCain (see details here) and the Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Calero.[81] Donofrio asserted that all three candidates were ineligible: Obama due to having dual U.S. and British nationality at birth (the latter via Obama's father), McCain due to being born in the Panama Canal Zone, and Calero due to allegedly still having Nicaraguan citizenship.[82]

Donofrio was not among those who claimed Obama might have been born outside Hawaii.[83] Also, Donofrio did not challenge the fact that Obama is a U.S. citizen and instead challenged only whether Obama is a natural-born citizen.[84]

The case was referred to the Supreme Court by Justice Clarence Thomas. When the case reached the United States Supreme Court on December 8, 2008, the Court declined without comment to hear it.[82]
Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz

On October 31, 2008, Greenwich resident and health food store owner Cort Wrotnowski filed a suit in the Connecticut Supreme Court against then Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz challenging the authenticity of presidential candidate Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. The suit was dismissed after initial hearings.[85]

Wrotnowski appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court on November 25,[86] contending that the British citizenship of Obama's father made the president-elect ineligible to assume office. Leo Donofrio, whose earlier case against Obama's eligibility had been turned down, assisted Wrotnowski's Supreme Court appeal.[87] The request for stay or injunction was denied without comment on December 15, 2008.[86][88] Thomas Goldstein, who has argued numerous cases before the court and covers Supreme Court cases, commented that "The law has always been understood to be, if you are born here, you're a natural born citizen. And that is particularly true in this case, when you have a U.S. citizen parent like Barack Obama's mother".[88]

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Never heard of the guy, but GEEZ!  Can we give the matter a rest?  Those who challenged Obam's eligibility all lost. Obama ruled this country all 8 years of his presidency.  . He's out of office now.  It's over.  Time to move on.

I might agree if Obama had moved on ... say moved back to Hawaii as he promised.  But he and his giant wife are still out there attempting to influence elections.

I know we can't undo the 8 years of Obamapression but, for my own satisfaction, I want to know the truth about Obama.  The truth is out there.
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Never heard of the guy, but GEEZ!  Can we give the matter a rest?  Those who challenged Obam's eligibility all lost. Obama ruled this country all 8 years of his presidency.  . He's out of office now.  It's over.  Time to move on.

Obama's eligibility was never adjudicated.  It was conveniently presupposed.  Obama's citizenship records were never investigated in a courtroom trial--not even once.

(I think the guy who is trying to bring up the citizenship of Obama's father is a confused doofus grasping at straws--more importantly, the wrong straws.  But I'm guessing that Trump will eventually get back on point regarding Obama's Hawaiian Birth Certificate.  If so, the matter could get very interesting.)

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Obama's eligibility was never adjudicated.  It was conveniently presupposed.  Obama's citizenship records were never investigated in a courtroom trial--not even once.
Because no court has ever found any substantial cause to do so.

He has a birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says it is valid. That is as much evidence as any of us have of being U.S. citizens. Unless they have some sort of credible proof that the state of Hawaii acted in bad faith, we're wasting our time on this.
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Because no court has ever found any substantial cause to do so.

He has a birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says it is valid. That is as much evidence as any of us have of being U.S. citizens. Unless they have some sort of credible proof that the state of Hawaii acted in bad faith, we're wasting our time on this.
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    Can we get this Thread back on Topic
    I rather thought the "Tuna Smell' thing showed promise and was slightly disappointed that didn't catch.

Don’t know. Where’s everyone’s favorite slum lord @Frank Cannon ? He’s the expert on that topic.
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Oh No.  There is a different order left from the O'bastard.  Kind of a shit house door off of a tuna boat smell.

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Because no court has ever found any substantial cause to do so.

He has a birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says it is valid. That is as much evidence as any of us have of being U.S. citizens. Unless they have some sort of credible proof that the state of Hawaii acted in bad faith, we're wasting our time on this.

Seems like a good answer to me.   :shrug:

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Because no court has ever found any substantial cause to do so.

He has a birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says it is valid. That is as much evidence as any of us have of being U.S. citizens. Unless they have some sort of credible proof that the state of Hawaii acted in bad faith, we're wasting our time on this.

There are a number of problems with this.  For one thing, the Short Form BC that was originally used by Obama to claim that he is a U.S. citizen proves nothing.  Even Hawaiian officials admitted this. 




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    Can we get this Thread back on Topic
    I rather thought the "Tuna Smell' thing showed promise and was slightly disappointed that didn't catch.

@corbe   Quite ironic to see you begging for a thread to stay on topic.

My point is that I want Obama exposed for my own satisfaction.  Our country spent 8 years under the disastrous control of a man we literally knew almost nothing about. 

We did know that Ayers wrote his book and it is an awful book, well suited for a Bulwar-LLyton award. 

We know that he had/has a wife but we don't know if he procreated.  We know he went to college ... or did he?  No one remembers him and none of his papers or writings or grades are available.

We have people who have devoted their lives to finding every tiny thing that Trump did wrong.  If you don't believe me, see the Omarosa thread.

I want Obama exposed, both for my own satisfaction and so that he will lose whatever influence he still has over his base.
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There are a number of problems with this.  For one thing, the Short Form BC that was originally used by Obama to claim that he is a U.S. citizen proves nothing.  Even Hawaiian officials admitted this.

It is not even a little stretch to believe that Hawaiian officials would be complicit in lying for Trump.  They are a gormless bunch, even today.
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It is not even a little stretch to believe that Hawaiian officials would be complicit in lying for Trump.  They are a gormless bunch, even today.

And, the governor at the time was hard leftist and friend of 0, Neil Abercrombie (I think I have the name right.)

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It is not even a little stretch to believe that Hawaiian officials would be complicit in lying for Trump.  They are a gormless bunch, even today.

Yeah, they are a gormless (?) bunch.  (That's a new word for my expansive lexicon, thanks--I guess!)  But the Hawaiian officials have actually been lying for Obama, not for Trump.  (See below.)

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As an important matter of background, when Hawaii's statehood was being considered by the other States, the proposal was stalled and almost failed because Hawaii was widely regarded as a Communist stronghold.  (At that time, the Communist cell in Hawaii was reportedly regarded by the FBI as the second most zealous, dangerous Communist cell in the U.S.--second only to the one in Chicago.)  After much debate, however, the federal statute did pass, and Hawaii squeaked into Statehood.

The Communistic bent of the Territory of Hawaii seems to have been largely the result of diligent community-organizing work by Frank Marshall Davis (the "Uncle Frank" who mentored Obama as a teenager, according to Obama's autobiography [obviously ghosted by Bill Ayers, of course]).  Davis had been dispatched from Chicago to Hawaii when Hawaii was still a Territory;  Davis's mission was evidently that of setting up a Communist cell there.  Davis was an extraordinarily devout Stalinist and was definitely regarded by the FBI as the single most dangerous Soviet agent in America.  (A standing order/warrant was put in place by the FBI to arrest Davis immediately if a war ever broke out between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R.)

I am guessing, but I strongly suspect that Davis and his cell were behind Hawaii's insane and still existing policy of issuing Short Form Birth Certificates showing Hawaiian birthplaces , including even specific Hawaiian hospitals and Hawaiian physicians for the birth, to persons who were known to have been born outside the U.S. 

When Maricopa County Sheriff Arpaio heard this allegation concerning Hawaii's ridiculous birth certification policy, he did not believe it.  He regarded it as an impossibly dopey claim borne of a stupid conspiracy theory, and he formed his Posse specifically to debunk the larger "theory" that Obama was actually born in Kenya.   But Arpaio soon found out that the claim about Hawaii's bizarre birth certificate protocol was actually correct. And after he got deeper into the overall investigation, he loudly warned that the Hawaiian protocol was a national security risk in which Hawaii served as portal evidently designed for infiltration of America by America's very worst deep cover enemies.

Considering Obama's known close associations with Chicago, the larger Alinskyite movement, ACORN, Bill Ayers, and especially Frank Marshall Davis himself in Hawaii, Arpaio's myriad of disturbing findings about the dubious nature of Obama's Birth Certificate (plus other riveting, corroborating evidence that Obama was born in Kenya) were and still are very serious.  Saying "Move on:  that train has left the station" is UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE.

This stuff is even more serious now that we now have stunning evidence, arguably even clear proof that Obama had a leading role in a massive conspiracy to aid and abet the enemies of the USA during our war on terrorism, to sow terrible discord between Americans, to defend voting fraud, to weaken America by open borders, to subvert America's economic stability and military might, and more recently a conspiracy to protect HRC and simultaneously block Trump's election and/or effectively nullify Trump's election by using corrupt officials in Obama's own weaponized DOJ, FBI, and CIA to do very, very dirty work against Trump.  Considering also that we have massive evidence that the Mockingbird Media is similarly weaponized, i.e., deeply in the tank for the Deep State, we ought to be appalled to realize that all of Arpaio's evidence has been suppressed by the scoffing MSM.

We cannot let this matter drop.  Anyone on TBR who thinks we can just "move on" is either a hopeless ignoramus who has been dumbed-down by the MSM or a political milquetoast who thinks we should not even bother to pursue retributive justice against those who perpetrated a political rape of our Constitution and Republic. 

(By the way, the whole mess gets curiouser and curioser when we remember that Obama's own tribe in Kenya is the Luo tribe--a quasi-Muslim spiritualist cult with a few bizarre pseudo-Christian trappings.  The Luo tribe was responsible for the machete insurrection [very well organized "rioting"--complete with house-to-house murders on a grand scale] that slaughtered 10,000 unarmed civilians [and burned 800 churches to the ground] after the presidential election loss in 2007 by Obama's beloved "cousin" Odinga [an East German-trained Socialist].  The machete murderers were able to force a settlement in which Odinga was installed as the new Prime Minister of Kenya.  It is well documented that Obama had been heavily involved as a political consultant and campaigner for Odinga during Odinga's unsuccessful 2007 campaign for the Presidency.  Obama's consulting role while Odinga was trying to overturn his election loss is less clear but still worrisome, to say the least.

Whatever we might think about Obama, it is a fact that his East African tribe is bad news, indeed, and manifestly pro-Communist.  However, the main reason why I have brought up the Luo tribe has nothing to do with Kenyan politics or of Obama's meddling therein.  My reason has to do with an eerie but verifiable report of something else that is even more flagrantly demonic about Obama's tribe:  about a century ago, an elder in the Luo tribe--evidently some sort of witch doctor in the tribe--issued an occultist's prophecy that a native Son of Kenya would some day destroy America.  This prophecy is reportedly well-known within the Luo tribe.  I care nothing at all about such a prophecy--beyond the possibility that Obama, who spent considerable time in his youth with his tribal family in Kenya, had somehow been raised to believe the prophecy and perhaps even believe that he would be its fulfillment.  [At the very least, Obama's racial heritage stems from a tribe that has a longstanding and extreme contempt for America, a tribe yearning for our destruction.]

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Anyway, you can bet that our POTUS has the decisive, damning evidence that Arpaio amassed over a matter of years concerning Obama's birthplace fraud.  The Long Form Birth Certificate "found" by Obama about a month after Trump demanded the release of that document a few years ago has backfired on them.  Numerous documents examiners have unanimously declared that Obama's long-hidden-away (?) document is just a digital forgery that was cobbled together to shut Trump up.  No forensic documents examiner who has actually examined the document has endorsed it as to its authenticity. 

Interestingly, when one documents expert filed a criminal complaint about the document fraud in a Seattle Federal District Court, a complaint ultimately directed at Loretta Fuddy, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health [the agency in charge of all birth records], Dr. Fuddy soon thereafter died mysteriously in a commuter plane crash.  (Fuddy was the only one of the eight or so passengers who did not survive the accident, which involved a relatively soft emergency [?] landing in the ocean just off the shore of Hawaii.  The other passengers declared that Fuddy seemed to be doing fine as they all awaited a water rescue, comfortable in their life jackets.)

With the death of Dr. Fuddy, who had been the zealous guardian of Obama's birth records, the federal case out of Seattle also died.

Oh, did I fail to mention that this high-ranking government official was a friend of Obama's mother, Stanley Dunham?  Yep, she was.  Stanley Dunham had met Loretta Fuddy years earlier when Fuddy was the national head for the American branch of a bizarre mystical Muslim cult founded and headquartered in Indonesia.   And if I recall correctly, Fuddy had connections via that cult back to global socialists in Chicago.

Go figure. 

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I will not bother to trot out all of the positive evidence that Obama was actually born in Kenya.  Instead, I will tell you about a guy I met while taking care of his friend at my clinic a couple of years ago. This fellow had a British accent, and when I said "Are you from the U.K.?," he responded, "Yes, but I lived for the past 30 years in Kenya."  I then asked with an ironic smirk, "Do you mean Obama's birthplace?," he got very serious:  he said that he lived for thirty years only thirty miles from President Obama's true birthplace--where there used to be a plaque commemorating the site of Obama's birth (since removed by the Kenyan government).  This gentleman went on to say "I love America.  But I have to say that you Americans are stupid." 

In this post, I have merely presented the highlights of the evidence that Obama's birthplace narrative is a fraud.   There is a great deal more than I have presented.  But the highlights alone are enough to establish something I figured out more than 10 years ago:  Obama is not an American, not even an African-American.  He is a pure African.

By way of summary, Obama was the ideal point man for a huge, complex conspiracy to destroy our Republic (likely the penultimate stage of the conspiracy, with HRC slated to deliver the final coup).  We must not be so incredulous as to say "They surely knew they would never get away with putting a non-American in the Presidency."  Heck, they knew exactly what they were doing.  They took a calculated risk, realizing that it was actually a weirdly low risk given the fact of highly placed co-conspirators (especially the MSM and also highly placed Hawaiian crooks guarding Obama's records [or the lack thereof]) who would protect their Perfect Crook Obama against any disclosure of his true birthplace.  And they were probably depending on the very audacity of their birthplace fraud to decrease even further the likelihood of exposure.  (Obama loves audacity, of course.  It's an Alinskyite thing.  [Speaking of audacity, did you  notice the super-sentimental chapter that served as a kind of centerpiece in Ayers's masterful fraud Dreams From My Father?  It was the story of Obama discovering his Hawaiian birth certificate in his grandparents' attic.  This was an audacious but masterful touch by a very gifted literarist who served as Obama's controller.  But when you finally figure out that everything about Obama is a fraud--including his supposedly wonderful writing skills and his alleged brilliance as a Harvard law student and his supposedly wondrous speaking gifts--you should immediately notice that the chapter about finding the birth certificate is yet another audacious fraud piled upon zillions of other frauds.])

And you know what?  The engineers of the birthplace fraud were actually correct--almost correct, that is.  The conspirators did get away with the birthplace fraud for more than eight full years. The only thing that they never envisioned was that Trump would beat Hillary in an election rigged by Hillary and the DNC.  Now, it's all going to come out.

If anyone on TBR remains incredulous, just wait until Obama goes on trial.  I predict that the starting point of the prosecution will be the illegal spying ordered by Obama but the capstone of the prosecution will be Obama's birthplace fraud.  It will be a slam-dunk conviction.  It will top off a lovely prosecutorial package for a military tribunal.   And I believe that Trump will see that it will be absolutely necessary for America's full repentance.
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I have never said anything other than Obama is a Kenyan and you have provided more material to further cement that for me.

I hope and pray that you know what you are talking about wrt his finally being brought to justice.  I further hope and pray that the entire cabal that made his assent to the Whitehouse possible and who aided and enabled him while there goes with him.
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And, the governor at the time was hard leftist and friend of 0, Neil Abercrombie (I think I have the name right.)

Yep, you got the name right.  And he backed Obama, not the likes of Trump.  Abercrombie was a RINO who was somehow "buds" with Obama.  Oddly enough, he campaigned for Governor with a promise that he would personally get to the bottom of the Records and find the Long Form BC.  He was sure he could vindicate Obama against the Birthers.

Well, he tried.  And failed.  And had to admit that he had failed.  After that, he clammed up, I believe. 

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@the_doc  The cult you referred to is called SUBUD. It's reach is global, and Loretta Fuddy was just a small part of it. Odd that the M,E. should proclaim that a woman with no history of heart problems or issues should die of cardiac arrhythmia, rather than cardiac arrest.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subud 

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Subud (pronounced [ˈsʊbʊd]) is an international spiritual movement that began in Indonesia in the 1920s, founded by Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo.[note 1] The basis of Subud is a spiritual exercise commonly called the latihan kejiwaan, which was said by Muhammad Subuh to represent guidance from "the Power of God" or "the Great Life Force". He claimed that Subud was not a new teaching or religion. He recommended that Subud members practice a religion but left them to make their own choice of religion. Some members have converted to Islam. Others have found that their faith in and practice of Christianity or Judaism, for example, has deepened after practising the latihan.[1] There are Subud groups in about 83 countries, with a worldwide membership of about 10,000.[2]
Plenty more  at the link.

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If anyone on TBR remains incredulous, just wait until Obama goes on trial.  I predict that the starting point of the prosecution will be the illegal spying ordered by Obama but the capstone of the prosecution will be Obama's birthplace fraud.  It will be a slam-dunk conviction.  It will top off a lovely prosecutorial package for a military tribunal.   And I believe that Trump will see that it will be absolutely necessary for America's full repentance.

Wow.  And people say I've got Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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In the Fall of 2008, Senator Barack Obama, unbeknownst to the country, had a major political problem that threatened his run for President and his political career. The Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) had refused to certify him as eligible to appear on the Hawaiian ballot for President of the United States. The DPH is the Democrat Party’s political body in Hawaii charged with requesting, reviewing and verifying the credentials of Democratic National Committee (DNC) candidates to ensure their eligibility for placement on the Hawaiian ballot, conforms with state and federal election laws.

The DPH’s denial was due to Obama’s inability to provide certified documents (a birth certificate?) needed to confirm his eligibility. This decision by the DPH was followed by a clandestine conspiracy by the DNC, chaired by Nancy Pelosi, to affirm that Obama was eligible for the ballot by submitting two different, sworn Official Certifications of Nomination (OCON) for him, containing different language. Both versions of the OCON were sent to the Hawaiian Office of Elections but only one was sent to the other 49 states’ Election Offices. The DNC’s skullduggery was an effort to control political damage, keep Obama on the Hawaiian ballot and conceal from the American people that the DPH had refused to certify him as eligible to be President of the United States.

The Official Certification of Nomination is a document sent by each party’s state and national organization to all other state elections committee before each election. It gives the Chief Elections Officer in each state assurance that candidates seeking to be on their state’s ballot are eligible to serve in the office they seek.

The falsified certification by the DNC’s meant Obama hadn’t provided documented evidence that he was eligible to be President. So, the DNC overrode the decision of the DPH and invented reasons to keep him on the Hawaiian ballot. Democrats claim there was no misconduct by Pelosi and the DNC. But, that doesn’t explain away the fact that the DPH refused to certify Obama, because of his failure to produce the needed document(s). The national party just certified Obama as eligible, ignoring the decision of the DPH. This blatant act of corruption by the National Democrat Party is criminal and treasonous.