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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2018, 11:26:26 pm »
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I agree with this. It's unsettling for any White House to call any industry or business "Enemy of the people." That term was used throughout history to justify imprisonment or genocides of those enemies.

The derision the press is getting from the public is deserved and earned, of course. But imagine a President Sanders or Warren calling oil companies or pharmaceutical companies "enemy of the people?"

I guess it all depends whose ox is getting gored

It all depends on semantics.  Here is a definition of enemy.

en·e·my
/ˈenəmē/
noun

1.
a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.

I think that definition fits the press pretty well.  No matter which ox is yours.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2018, 11:42:03 pm »
@INVAR

I agree with this. It's unsettling for any White House to call any industry or business "Enemy of the people." That term was used throughout history to justify imprisonment or genocides of those enemies.

The derision the press is getting from the public is deserved and earned, of course. But imagine a President Sanders or Warren calling oil companies or pharmaceutical companies "enemy of the people?"

I guess it all depends whose ox is getting gored

Lets split the difference and call the media 'enemy of half the people'.

I don't know what else to call them - its true.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2018, 12:04:59 am »
Well, when you declare 'this' group or profession an 'enemy of the people' and then 'that' group or industry an 'enemy of the people', eventually there will be reciprocal action unless or until you actually eradicate the 'enemies of the people' and render their threat to the people neuter.  Usually it involves gulags, reeducation camps or extermination centers.  Which is what always happens to 'enemies of the people', 'legally' of course.

I Concur.

Sanders does a great job of defending the president, and he needs defending.  But funny that she would bring up that the press didn't report the good stuff.  Jobs in Florida.  Its hard to report good stuff when you are the enemy.  I don't  know why people don't see it but we are on a dangerous road.  President Trump doesn't like any criticism and he has done a lot that deserves criticism.  You can't make an enemy and then expect them to work for you.

What you have said is true.  It is what dictators do to gain control of the population.  Controlling the press is #1.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2018, 01:25:52 am »
Its hard to report good stuff when you are the enemy.  I don't  know why people don't see it but we are on a dangerous road.  President Trump doesn't like any criticism and he has done a lot that deserves criticism.  You can't make an enemy and then expect them to work for you.

What you have said is true.  It is what dictators do to gain control of the population.  Controlling the press is #1.

That the Left already had a nice Socialist/Communist Apologetics propaganda department within a complicit Press is self-evident.

Which is one way to achieve control of a population, except that in our country - the First Amendment prohibits government from interfering with the press and any competition that arises to report information about the government and to shape public policy in the minds and hearts of the people.  That both the Left and the Trump/Populists seek to regulate the press via various means including government intimidation is indeed a road that liberty never comes back from.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2018, 02:09:24 am »
I Concur.

Sanders does a great job of defending the president, and he needs defending.  But funny that she would bring up that the press didn't report the good stuff.  Jobs in Florida.  Its hard to report good stuff when you are the enemy.  I don't  know why people don't see it but we are on a dangerous road.  President Trump doesn't like any criticism and he has done a lot that deserves criticism.  You can't make an enemy and then expect them to work for you.

What you have said is true.  It is what dictators do to gain control of the population.  Controlling the press is #1.

@Chosen Daughter   Do you really see a lot of evidence of Trump successfully controlling the press?

He might like to, but he can't and he doesn't. 

The country is divided with the press and the celebrities on one side and Trump and his supporters on the other side.

But, if you think sending out a tweet saying the press is the enemy is equivalent to 24-7 bashing and lying by the press, then I must disagree.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2018, 03:26:25 am »


LOl, I was wonderin' how long until the High Priest of declaring normal freedom as "fascist" would show up.

I know I have been away for a few weeks... but this is funny stuf.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2018, 03:31:33 am »
@INVAR

I agree with this. It's unsettling for any White House to call any industry or business "Enemy of the people." That term was used throughout history to justify imprisonment or genocides of those enemies.

The derision the press is getting from the public is deserved and earned, of course. But imagine a President Sanders or Warren calling oil companies or pharmaceutical companies "enemy of the people?"

I guess it all depends whose ox is getting gored

Yeah... kinda' like being called "deplorables".

While the obama regime actually abused the governmental institutions of power to do just the political genocide you are decryin'.

Yet to see any reciprocation from the Presidency of Trump.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2018, 04:08:48 am »


While the obama regime actually abused the governmental institutions of power to do just the political genocide you are decryin'

I invite you to find a post of me supporting the abuse of power from the Obama Administration.

I don't play "whataboutism."
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2018, 04:18:41 am »
I invite you to find a post of me supporting the abuse of power from the Obama Administration.

I don't play "whataboutism."

And I do not play .."outofcontextualism".

I quoted you in whole and replied.  You did not quote me, but did an acosta like driveby.  Nice....if that is your style.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2018, 04:41:34 am »
 I will clarify that I do not believe that Trump is one executive order away from ordering journalist into death camps. It was another example of him entertaining his base

But if you look throughout history, it hasn’t been very pleasant for anyone that governments have declared “enemies of the people.”

If I recall, wasn’t Ayn Rand’s father declared an enemy of the people by the Soviet government? The Kulaks under Stalin?

Imagine the outcry if a Democrat president declared this site and its members “enemies of the people.”

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2018, 04:57:37 am »
Imagine the outcry if a Democrat president declared this site and its members “enemies of the people.”

It's okay when OUR GUY does it!
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2018, 05:04:06 am »
It's okay when OUR GUY does it!

 There’s a certain amount of slack I will cut the president when he does nonsense like this simply for the fact that he’s never held public office before.  And I understand the positive reaction that some have to see somebody do this to the so-called mainstream media, an outlet that has always been openly hostile to conservatives.

But he either is not aware or doesn’t care the historical context of the phrase he used especially coming from the mouths of people in position of power


Anyways, I’ve stated my piece and, unless something different comes up, that’s all I’m going to say about this as I’ll start repeating myself
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2018, 05:18:27 am »
And I understand the positive reaction that some have to see somebody do this to the so-called mainstream media, an outlet that has always been openly hostile to conservatives.

Openly hostile to America. Ever bother reading Thomas Friedman in the NY Slimes where he openly and repeatedly calls for us to adopt the policies of China (which is Communist, if you were not aware). Times just hired a full blown racists and not only did they not fire her when they found out they said she would be an asset to the paper. WaPo prints more lies that are retracted then stories that are correct. Most of those lies revolve around creating a one party system in America........kinda like China.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2018, 05:28:52 am »
Most of those lies revolve around creating a one party system in America........kinda like China.

If the fruits of the GOP in the last 10 years are any clue, I'd say we pretty much have a one party system going on now.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2018, 05:48:10 am »
If the fruits of the GOP in the last 10 years are any clue, I'd say we pretty much have a one party system going on now.

Well considering I am getting tax cuts, regulations are being rolled back and there is an overall pleasant business climate the last 2 years and the party out of power is running on reversing all that, I'm going to say you are wrong.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2018, 01:25:21 pm »
But he either is not aware or doesn’t care the historical context of the phrase he used especially coming from the mouths of people in position of power

I think he's not aware of it, and that's important.  Because if he was aware of it, then he'd know it is often used as a threat, and a prelude to the deprivation of civil liberties.   But if he doesn't know that, then it isn't fair to assume that's what he intends.

He's simply calling the press out for a clear bias intended to steer elections and political debate, and to force their vision of their preferred society down our throats.  So in that sense, they very much are a political enemy.


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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2018, 01:27:24 pm »
Well considering I am getting tax cuts, regulations are being rolled back and there is an overall pleasant business climate the last 2 years and the party out of power is running on reversing all that, I'm going to say you are wrong.

I can certainly understand people not liking Trump.  I can't really understand rhetoric that amounts to saying there's no difference between what Trump is doing, and what someone like Hillary or Pelosi would be doing. 

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2018, 01:31:38 pm »
IMHO there is NOTHING our president has done more important than his calling out of the MSM. NOTHING!
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2018, 01:38:09 pm »
Women who are truly strong and confident don't have to run around telling everyone they're "strong, confident women", which is a stupid phrase the feminists can't stop repeating.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, on the other hand, is the real deal.

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Yes,she is.

She is also right about the press,NOT the "media" being the enemy of the people of America.

Granted,so is MOST of the media,but not all of it. The difference is a VERY small number of people in this country own or control ALL of the national and international press that prints or broadcasts news here,and "the media" is owned by many,MANY people of varying backgrounds. For example,Hollywood is flat out OWNED by globalist fascists,but your local radio and tv stations may  not be even though they have no choice but to air the programming they receive or go out of business. This is where local news makes all the difference in SOME markets.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2018, 01:38:51 pm »
You aren't kidding. There's shampoo in our shower with "beauty is power" in quotes on the bottle. Whats up with that.

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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2018, 01:41:31 pm »
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Why would you want her to purposely lie? The national and international press in this country is all owned or controlled by a handful of globalist leftists,and they spin everything towards globalism and a One World Government. Mostly because the same people that control the news networks also own the international banks.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2018, 01:43:13 pm »
That is an interesting quote indeed, when considering the charge from the rabid fanbase that insisted that those whom did not vote for Trump, are also Enemies of the People.



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Why? You/they are the same people.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2018, 01:46:14 pm »
It all depends on semantics.  Here is a definition of enemy.

en·e·my
/ˈenəmē/
noun

1.
a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.

I think that definition fits the press pretty well.  No matter which ox is yours.

@Emjay

And there you have it.

I will take it one step further and state that people who give our declared enemies (the Left) aid and comfort by siding with them are fellow travelers. They love to play the role of the innocents,but they are complicit in the destruction of America and our Constitution.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2018, 01:48:20 pm »
I Concur.

What you have said is true.  It is what dictators do to gain control of the population.  Controlling the press is #1.

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And just EXACTLY what is it that YOU think the globalist left is doing and has done?

You can't have it both ways. It's either evil and needs to be named evil and fought against,or you just need to bend over and grab your ankles and accept what is going to happen.
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Re: Sarah Sanders defends Trump calling reporters 'enemy of the people'
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2018, 01:53:44 pm »
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That the Left already had a nice Socialist/Communist Apologetics propaganda department within a complicit Press is self-evident.

@INVAR

Nice of you to notice that.

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Which is one way to achieve control of a population, except that in our country - the First Amendment prohibits government from interfering with the press and any competition that arises to report information about the government and to shape public policy in the minds and hearts of the people.


How is naming a snake controlling the snake? Maybe you would have been happier if the US hadn't declared war on Japan,Germany,and Italy during WW-2,or communism after the war? After all,who is the government to go around calling people names,right?

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That both the Left and the Trump/Populists seek to regulate the press via various means including government intimidation is indeed a road that liberty never comes back from.

Blah,blah,blah. Only ONE side regulates the press,and that side is controlled by the same international bankers that own the press. How you get to "If we call them out and name them for what they are,we are damaging liberty!" is a freaking mystery to me.

Or is this just a branch of your "hate Trump 24/7" programming?
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