Conspiracy Theory 'QAnon' Jumps To Primetime At Trump Rally

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee



And why?  Because he's hot

Lol!   Well....in the show... he would have, might have been hot (to me) before finding out what a literal POS he was in that character.  But in person, he seems like a good guy with a sense of humor.

But in the show, I'm apparently stuck in the mode of only liking the good guys.    

[Silver Pines]

Lol!   Well....in the show... he would have, might have been hot (to me) before finding out what a literal POS he was in that character.  But in person, he seems like a good guy with a sense of humor.

But in the show, I'm apparently stuck in the mode of only liking the good guys.   

@XenaLee

I’m just kidding...I can’t like Negan because I can’t forget what he’s done.  Objectively I think he looks good, and I dislike myself for it, lol.

[Quix]

Lol.... you have insomnia too then, I take it.  Ok.....

later.

I tend to have to spend some time clearing my sinuses etc. in the middle of the night. And, most of my life, I've been able to sleep when sleepy and do other things when not sleepy. Have never thought of it as insomnia. Evidently humans over most of their history have slept in a couple of periods per night. Evidently there are health benefits from doing so. I may sleep in 2-4 jumps per night with 1-3 hours of computing between them. Never thought of it as a problem. Still don't.

Now the fact that the starting and ending of that time has resulted in getting up most of the time, now, around noon--that could be improved on by jiggling things back to sleeping mostly during the dark hours. LOL. But given that I live alone, it's still not a significant problem except when I need to set an alarm for the traditional Sonday lunch with the guys.

[Emjay]

@XenaLee



And why?  Because he's hot

The actor is attractive but I will never forgive Negan because he created or marked the end of my love affair with The Walking Dead.  I miss it, but can never go back.

[Quix]

Lol.... you have insomnia too then, I take it.  Ok.....

later.

Where'd everybody go? I don't really have cooties!

[the_doc]

@Quix

@the_doc

I know the media is corrupt.  We've known that for a long time.  And we've seen them send out talking points before.  It's not a new thing.

The fact that it's "not a new thing" is way more significant than you realize.  And you have not necessarily figured out the correct antecedent of "them."  The identity of "them" is important.  (The First Amendment's protection of Freedom of the Press does not extend to sedition--which is a capital crime [a fact that today's arrogantly stupid journalists may not even realize].)

I know that Hillary Clinton is a lousy individual and a crook and that she should be behind bars.  Beyond that, I don't give her a thought.  She's an unwell (I think), aging woman who's over and done and in our rearview mirrors.  But she is not snacking on children.  I really don't understand the obsession with her.

By way of response, let me first point out that there are disturbingly believable reports of Satan Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Hollywood, including cannibalism.  Actor Isaac Kappy has very recently declared that "It's worse than you think."

Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism.  Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge.  Nothing came of the case.  In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report.  More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all.  (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)

***

Finally on this point, I will say that to my knowledge, Q has never insinuated that HRC has indulged in cannibalism.  I have stopped short of making such an accusation, despite the fact that there are non-Q sources vigorously making that very accusation.  HRC is a witch.  And it is worth remembering that she travels in the same circles as the "spirit cooking" Hollywood elites who seem to be desperate to have Trump impeached, or better still, assassinated.  In any case, I think I should repeat Kappy's warning:  "It's worse than you think."     

I'm sure.  Child-trafficking is an international problem.   Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.

Child-trafficking is a terrible problem all over the world.  Worse still, it does appear to have a big component of SRA. 

Because I don't believe that the British royals are cannibals?  That's fine, lol.

I have never said that the UK's Royal Family is a bunch of cannibals.  Q has never said that the UK Royal Family is involved in pedophilia, much less cannibalism.  But it is inarguably true that the Royals have had very bad associations with pedophiles.  (This is a matter of public knowledge in the UK.  Q's followers have extrapolated [from that] along the lines of what they have heard from Q about MI6 complicity in a conspiracy against Trump. [Included in the ugly mix is a videotaped dying confession by an MI6 assassin that he rigged the murder of Princess Diana on the orders of Prince Phillip.])
 

Well, messiah, deliverer, whatever, but I don't know what else you'd call the Trump this hoax is putting forth.  I mean, he's going to solve--no, sorry, crush---the evildoers of the world.  As for that last sentence?  Dude, somebody sitting behind a computer screen doesn't have the power to guarantee my safety or anyone else's.  Wth, come on.

I don't understand why you seem to get irritated when you're confronted with people who don't believe the Q thing.  I'm sure you don't expect everyone to join up.

Heck, I'm not even surprised at, much less frustrated by your disbelief, my friend.  And by the way, I am not praying for vindication.  I am praying for justice.  (You just want HRC locked up.  That would be a terrible breach of justice.)

[Quix]

@Quix
The fact that it's "not a new thing" is way more significant than you realize.  And you have not necessarily figured out the correct antecedent of "them."  The identity of "them" is important.  (The First Amendment's protection of Freedom of the Press does not extend to sedition--which is a capital crime [a fact that today's arrogantly stupid journalists may not even realize].)

By way of response, let me first point out that there are disturbingly believable reports of Satan Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Hollywood, including cannibalism.  Actor Isaac Kappy has very recently declared that "It's worse than you think."

Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism.  Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge.  Nothing came of the case.  In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report.  More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all.  (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)

***

Finally on this point, I will say that to my knowledge, Q has never insinuated that HRC has indulged in cannibalism.  I have stopped short of making such an accusation, despite the fact that there are non-Q sources vigorously making that very accusation.  HRC is a witch.  And it is worth remembering that she travels in the same circles as the "spirit cooking" Hollywood elites who seem to be desperate to have Trump impeached, or better still, assassinated.  In any case, I think I should repeat Kappy's warning:  "It's worse than you think."     

Child-trafficking is a terrible problem all over the world.  Worse still, it does appear to have a big component of SRA. 

I have never said that the UK's Royal Family is a bunch of cannibals.  Q has never said that the UK Royal Family is involved in pedophilia, much less cannibalism.  But it is inarguably true that the Royals have had very bad associations with pedophiles.  (This is a matter of public knowledge in the UK.  Q's followers have extrapolated [from that] along the lines of what they have heard from Q about MI6 complicity in a conspiracy against Trump. [Included in the ugly mix is a videotaped dying confession by an MI6 assassin that he rigged the murder of Princess Diana on the orders of Prince Phillip.])
 
Heck, I'm not even surprised at, much less frustrated by your disbelief, my friend.  And by the way, I am not praying for vindication.  I am praying for justice.  (You just want HRC locked up.  That would be a terrible breach of justice.)

I don't understand what you mean by this:

That would be a terrible breach of justice.)

Otherwise, I largely agree--except that I think the horrors of child sex abuse, cannibalism, satanic ritual abuse etc. are much worse and more common than you seem to think. Montbatten was evidently heavily involved in child sex abuse. Maybe so satanic stuff.

[the_doc]

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@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix

Q's absolutely, undoubtedly nonsense.

I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance.  (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)

In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee).  I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.

Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840

See you soon, I hope.  (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.) 

[Quix]

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@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix

I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance.  (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)

In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee).  I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.

Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840

See you soon, I hope.  (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.) 

You're a better, more patient man  on  such scores than I am at this point.

To me, at this point, the evidence is soooooooooooooooo overwhelming that there is no longer any rational reason for contrarian naysayers to continue their ignorant stances.

i understand why they disagree with that assertion.

I also understand . . . that sadly . . . I seem to be greatly better at assessing such issues than they are. I'm very comfortable with my track record on such scores.

From where I sit, they are terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree.

Yeah, I have opinions.

[the_doc]

I don't understand what you mean by this:

That would be a terrible breach of justice.)

Otherwise, I largely agree--except that I think the horrors of child sex abuse, cannibalism, satanic ritual abuse etc. are much worse and more common than you seem to think. Montbatten was evidently heavily involved in child sex abuse. Maybe so satanic stuff.

You missed the operative word in the previous sentence:  "You [Catherine] just want her locked up."

Pardon me for being obtuse, but I thought it went without saying that incarceration is not the correct sentence.

[edpc]

The more widespread this nonsense becomes mainstream, the less funny it is.

[the_doc]

@CatherineofAragon
@Quix

I forgot to mention something pretty important in my recent post to you, Catherine.

You said:

Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.

I have to point out that most of Q's followers have not bought into the theory now being floated around to the effect that the Mueller investigation is a sting operation against the Deep State.  Q has been rather mysterious in his way of talking about Mueller, but Q has said in the past that he does not want to be understood as declaring that Mueller is a "white hat."

There is a lot of political theater surrounding the whole mess.  Besides, there is info in Q's cryptic tweets--but there is also a possibility of tactically deliberate misinfo.  Q may have to thread the needle of disclosure and the needle of psyop deception pretty carefully. 


 

[Silver Pines]

You're a better, more patient man  on  such scores than I am at this point.

To me, at this point, the evidence is soooooooooooooooo overwhelming that there is no longer any rational reason for contrarian naysayers to continue their ignorant stances.

i understand why they disagree with that assertion.

I also understand . . . that sadly . . . I seem to be greatly better at assessing such issues than they are. I'm very comfortable with my track record on such scores.

From where I sit, they are terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree.

Yeah, I have opinions.

@Quix

Don't we all.  The Q believers on Twitter are the same.  They get angry when people don't buy into what they're selling. 

I read that's one of the hallmarks of a true conspiracy theorist.  One was---are they willing to consider that they could be wrong, or are they vehemently convinced?  And how do they respond when you decline to become a believer---do they leave it at that, or do they keep going, doggedly trying to evangelize, finally becoming upset when they hit a brick wall?

[Silver Pines]

The actor is attractive but I will never forgive Negan because he created or marked the end of my love affair with The Walking Dead.  I miss it, but can never go back.

@Emjay

Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?

That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV.  But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism.  Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge.  Nothing came of the case.  In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report.  More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all.  (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)

@the_doc

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/

None of this was true: Although Reeves had recently attended a motorcycle convention in Milan, the actor gave no such interview as described above while there, nor was he recorded by any other source (at any time or location) as having made comments about “Hollywood elites” drinking the blood of children. This story was completely fabricated by YourNewsWire, a fake news site that peddles in shamelessly fictional clickbait.

Within days, the false YourNewsWire story about Keanu Reeves had been pulled and the URL redirected to point to a different article on the site.

YourNewsWire previously ran a similarly false story about singer Katy Perry’s supposedly having expressed a preference for cannibalism.

[the_doc]

The more widespread this nonsense becomes mainstream, the less funny it is.

Change the word "nonsense" to the less arrogant word "stuff" and I will heartily agree with you.

Now that is funny, I think.

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee

I’m just kidding...I can’t like Negan because I can’t forget what he’s done.  Objectively I think he looks good, and I dislike myself for it, lol.

Agreed.   

[XenaLee]

@Emjay

Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?

That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV.  But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.

What?   Hadn't heard that.  Leaving when?   

[the_doc]

@the_doc

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/

None of this was true: Although Reeves had recently attended a motorcycle convention in Milan, the actor gave no such interview as described above while there, nor was he recorded by any other source (at any time or location) as having made comments about “Hollywood elites” drinking the blood of children. This story was completely fabricated by YourNewsWire, a fake news site that peddles in shamelessly fictional clickbait.

Within days, the false YourNewsWire story about Keanu Reeves had been pulled and the URL redirected to point to a different article on the site.

YourNewsWire previously ran a similarly false story about singer Katy Perry’s supposedly having expressed a preference for cannibalism.

Thanks, the existence of YourNewsWire is news to me.  It may be just as phony as snopes.com (LOL)

By the way, the snopes URL mentions "blood drinking" in connection with the presumably false (?) article about Reeves's description of Hollywood.  The story I ran across did not mention blood drinking at all.

Funny that you should mention Katy Perry and cannibalism:  Cannibalism aside, I saw the video of the interview in which Katy confessed that she had "sold her soul to Satan."  She didn't look like she was kidding.  (When you notice all of the occult garbage in her music vids, they seem to confirm that she is a full-blown Satanist.)

[XenaLee]

@CatherineofAragon
@Quix

I forgot to mention something pretty important in my recent post to you, Catherine.

You said:

I have to point out that most of Q's followers have not bought into the theory now being floated around to the effect that the Mueller investigation is a sting operation against the Deep State.  Q has been rather mysterious in his way of talking about Mueller, but Q has said in the past that he does not want to be understood as declaring that Mueller is a "white hat."

There is a lot of political theater surrounding the whole mess.  Besides, there is info in Q's cryptic tweets--but there is also a possibility of tactically deliberate misinfo.  Q may have to thread the needle of disclosure and the needle of psyop deception pretty carefully. 

I know a guy.... from a previous forum I hung out at.... that totally fits the description of a theory conspiracy addict/cultist.   I think the guy went by the nic MichaelR (memory fades).

The guy finally either got banned or left in a huff, but it sounds about like something he would have 'come up with' (ie this whole Q stuff).... come to think of it.... to get back the much needed attention he apparently craved.   Hmmm....

[Emjay]

@Emjay

Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?

That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV.  But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.

Yes.  Because of that episode .  It made me sick and I just couldn't watch it any more.  They made a big mistake with that episode because I think they lost a lot of viewers. 

[XenaLee]

Thanks, the existence of YourNewsWire is news to me.  It may be just as phony as snopes.com (LOL)

By the way, the snopes URL mentions "blood drinking" in connection with the presumably false (?) article about Reeves's description of Hollywood.  The story I ran across did not mention blood drinking at all.

Funny that you should mention Katy Perry and cannibalism:  Cannibalism aside, I saw the video of the interview in which Katy confessed that she had "sold her soul to Satan."  She didn't look like she was kidding.  (When you notice all of the occult garbage in her music vids, they seem to confirm that she is a full-blown Satanist.)

Is this stuff for real?  If so... it 'might' explain the high number of suicides among such ""famous"" people (I didn't even know who she was ... had to look it up).

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@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix

I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance.  (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)

In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee).  I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.

Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840

See you soon, I hope.  (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.)

Thanks. I did have a look at that post and one thing jumped out at me as factually wrong--

Please keep in mind that certainly in the earlier stages, Q-Anon posted somewhat like God does in our reality: He provided ample proof for those with insight and discernment while leaving enough fuzzy wiggle room for those who chose to disbelieve.

As time has gone on, the proofs have become more overt and clear.

This seems to be rationalizing the fact that early on, Q made a lot of specific predictions that were definitively, verifiably wrong. "Huma Abedin's arrest will be announced on November 4th, and there will be riots and martial law." "Watch for false flags today." He learned his lesson and stopped.

Now, instead, he makes vague hints at things that are in the news and then claims credit for "predicting" when someone mentions something similar later on. This way, he can claim foreknowledge, but he can't be proven wrong, because his claims are basically never specific enough. He still manages, though, every month now there's some generic idea for how Big Things are Happening but nothing ever comes of it. "March Madness - Public will know soon." Hmm. Next up, April was supposed to be Arrests Month, and a huge month for the Awan case. Exactly nobody of any note was arrested in April, and Awan took a plea deal in June.

I would be happy to go through each of those proofs you posted but there simply isn't enough time in the day. I will say this though. The motive doesn't make sense. If Q wants to straightforwardly prove that he has an inside link to Trump, it would be completely simple for him to go to Trump and say "Donald, let me know the exact wording of your next tweet before you post it, and I'll post it first. Then everyone will know this thing is for real." Clear, unambiguous proof.

In fact a lot of these sites have fake "proofs" that claim to show this exact scenario, but none of them are actually real - the timezones don't match. Whenever Q quotes a Trump tweet, it's after Trump said it. Q supporters seem to recognize that this would be a reasonable proof of foreknowledge. So, why not do it?

Instead, we get vague pronouncements that go nowhere, cropped pics of somebody's ear, glamor shots of a pen, and people finding that Trump said some phrase months after it appeared in a Q post.

The usual rationalization for this is that Q's secrets are only for the faithful, and proving it so openly would ruin this somehow. That does not make this sound any less like a cult.

[the_doc]

You're a better, more patient man  on  such scores than I am at this point.

Thanks.  I am a loveable, patient, teddy bear.  [LOL]

The problem is that I tend to stand my ground in a way that makes online folks assume that I'm angry. 

Well, nope, I'm not angry.  I'm not even impatient.  It's all because I am a thoroughly Calvinistic Christian.  I am sometimes a bit confrontational in the way I present my positions--seeking to elicit some kind of thoughtful reaction by my opponents--but I am not the least bit interested in notching my polemical gun.  The very idea is stupid.  Still, I'm  not willing to walk quickly away from the field when I think the Truth is at stake.   

Maybe I'm wrong in my self-examination, but I suspect that I care more about the Truth than most people do.  (Heck, I even like your Alternate Realities threads!  And as you know, I believe that most of the naysayers on those threads are mostly COMPLETE A_HOLES. [LOL])

[Quix]

You missed the operative word in the previous sentence:  "You [Catherine] just want her locked up."

Pardon me for being obtuse, but I thought it went without saying that incarceration is not the correct sentence.

Good.  I'd agree then. Drawn & quartered  is  more what she has earned & begged for.