Conspiracy Theory 'QAnon' Jumps To Primetime At Trump Rally

[XenaLee]

Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro.  Micro being your personal life, and macro being the life of the larger state or nation.  He says this applies to the micro community - you turn your cheek to your neighbor, spouse, children etc., but not to some guy who comes in with a gun to rob you, for instance.

Then.... that I can agree with. 

And I don't consider my neighbors to be "enemies"... even tho one of them keeps backing into/over my mailbox.  I guess I have "turned the other cheek" on that... since I haven't even brought it up...lol.

[Sanguine]

Then.... that I can agree with. 

And I don't consider my neighbors to be "enemies"... even tho one of them keeps backing into/over my mailbox.  I guess I have "turned the other cheek" on that... since I haven't even brought it up...lol.

Yes, our neighbors are...our neighbors.   

[XenaLee]

Funny how the usual suspects in the MSM all produced articles after the Florida rally calling Qanon "bizarre, fringe, dangerous," and a dozen other pejoratives. The movement has the laudable aim of researching and questioning the corruption that is rampant in the federal government. Much has already been exposed to the public Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Orr, and so many others, so the corruption should be apparent to all.

Qanon is completely non-violent despite the portrayal of the leftist media.

Good point... and... let's not forget the misdeeds of Mueller, leader of the current witch hunt.  It makes sense that they (the left) would mock anything pointing to that corruption.  It's how they roll (Marxist = mock your enemies).

[Quix]

@Quix

Best post I've read in a long time. Kudos!

Blush. Gwarsh. Thanks for your kind  encouraging  words.

God's best to you and yours this week.

[roamer_1]

I'm a 5'2" female... and though I don't often feel that fierce, much less look it...lolol, I have carried some type of handgun since I was in my 20's when I leave the house.  I think that has given me an "air", if you will, of someone not to mess with.  I posit that the confidence that being armed gives you helps to ensure that you will not be made a victim... either by bullies or by criminals.   Anyway, it has worked for me.  And rest assured.... if someone seeks to make me a victim, they will regret it.

I am always packing too - Though I am more of a fists or knife guy (or any other tool I can pick up)... And I have spent enough time in the woods that I always have my .45 above and to the right of my head when I sleep - And I can't sleep without it. Which most ladies, in my experience, find troubling for some reason...

It ain't that I won't defend myself, but I'll go out of my way, most the time, to keep from having to. More as a mercy to idiots than any other thing... But I don't need the weight of it on my conscience. 

Sorry to hear about your incident with the person whose face you rearranged.  But... had you not done that, would you two be friends right now?   (mysterious ways and all that...lol)

I have thought of it that way - and I would hope that in every case, my gentle ministrations caused folks to turn from a life of crime, or give up the violent path... Or at least, give them time to rest up and think about it from a hospital bed... But then I remember that wasn't my intention at the time. 

[Quix]

Good point... and... let's not forget the misdeeds of Mueller, leader of the current witch hunt.  It makes sense that they (the left) would mock anything pointing to that corruption.  It's how they roll (Marxist = mock your enemies).

Reply #1542  here

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286

includes some great stuff implicating Mueller as one of HRC's fixers from way back in the videos at that link.

[roamer_1]

Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro. 

That's probably right.

[XenaLee]

I am always packing too - Though I am more of a fists or knife guy (or any other tool I can pick up)... And I have spent enough time in the woods that I always have my .45 above and to the right of my head when I sleep - And I can't sleep without it. Which most ladies, in my experience, find troubling for some reason...

I would take that as more of a reassuring action... since.... most burglaries and home invasions happen late at night when folks are conked out/asleep.  Having a gun within reach (just in case) saves time looking for one... and could end up being a life-saver.  That's how I look at it, anyway.

It ain't that I won't defend myself, but I'll go out of my way, most the time, to keep from having to. More as a mercy to idiots than any other thing... But I don't need the weight of it on my conscience. 

I have thought of it that way - and I would hope that in every case, my gentle ministrations caused folks to turn from a life of crime, or give up the violent path... Or at least, give them time to rest up and think about it from a hospital bed... But then I remember that wasn't my intention at the time. 

It may not have been your 'conscious' intention at the time... but I believe that we tend to vastly underestimate the wisdom (and subtle control) of the subconscious mind.  It's the end result that matters, IMO.

[XenaLee]

Reply #1542  here

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286

includes some great stuff implicating Mueller as one of HRC's fixers from way back in the videos at that link.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

This probably has already been posted, but I'll add it in case it hasn't been (saw it at TOS).

https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed

And... check out this list of attendees for this year's Bilderberg meeting...

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

The list of topics is... interesting... to say the least.

Populism in Europe
The inequality challenge
The future of work
Artificial intelligence
The US before midterms
Free trade
US world leadership
Russia
Quantum computing
Saudi Arabia and Iran
The “post-truth” world
Current events

[Quix]

Oh come on, @Quix , be real.  You can get just as personal and as bitchy as any of us here.  Again I refer you back to the post where you called us ignorant, stupid, foolish, etc.  You claim you made it in reaction to others getting personal with you, but if you look back at the posts, you see that’s not the case. 

You made a snarky remark about @heckocopter’s ego simply because he stepped in to refute some of this stuff, but you continually let everyone know you’re the authority here so you should be paid attention to.  I’m sorry but it’s give and take here. 

I don’t know why it’s so important for everyone to buy into Q anyway.  Apparently you know that Trump will succeed in crushing the evildoers.  Should be enough, IMO.

Thanks for your exhortation. I'll prayerfully ponder it and consider where I need to amend my ways.

[Quix]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

This probably has already been posted, but I'll add it in case it hasn't been (saw it at TOS).

https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed

And... check out this list of attendees for this year's Bilderberg meeting...

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

Great. Thanks.

[mystery-ak]

Moving this to Alternate Realities

[Quix]

Moving this to Alternate Realities

Thanks.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

That scene was replayed on that channel a short time ago, and I couldn't watch it.  Could not watch them being clubbed to death again.

@Victoria33

I wouldn't be able to, either.  The whole thing was sickening, but Glenn's eye was bad enough in itself.

[austingirl]

@mystery-ak @Quix

Disappointed and surprised to find a NEWS story from The Hill moved here. 

[the_doc]

@Sanguine
@Xena Lee

Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro.  Micro being your personal life, and macro being the life of the larger state or nation.  He says this applies to the micro community - you turn your cheek to your neighbor, spouse, children etc., but not to some guy who comes in with a gun to rob you, for instance.

R.C. Sproul (a Reformed Presbyterian, one of their best theologians, IMO) said something like "If you attack me, I will turn the other cheek.  If you lay a hand on my wife, I will kill you."

I sort of agree with Sproul.  And I think Sproul's perspective runs deeper than Prager's (Judaistic?) explanation.  Remember:  Christ did not resist His Own murderers--who hated Him almost entirely for the message that He brought from God--but He promised a terrible response, in His Own good time, against reprobates who would soon go on to persecute His Bride, His Little Ones.  (Prager would not be inclined to pick up on this, I suspect.  The ethics of the meticulously codified Old Covenant are noticeably different from the ethics of the New Covenant.  And as the entire Book of Hebrews stridently insists, the typological Old Covenant, although conspicuously moralistic, is dramatically inferior to its antitype, the New Covenant.  [All typology is based on antithetical parallelisms.  That's why the fulfillment of the type is called the antitype, in fact.]  Moreover, the ethical demands of the New Covenant are noticeably higher than those of the Old.  [The Old Testament, for example, permitted personal vengeance at the discretion of the "avenger of blood," whereas the New Testament of the same strange Bible disallows personal vengeance under the Gospel dispensation.  We cannot harmonize the Old and New Testaments of the unified Word of God if we try to reconcile them by assuming that they are directly presenting the same ethics.  Both Testaments have moral character, and the New Testament reiterates many purely moral tenets from the Old Testament, thereby confirming the parallelism between the Testaments, but the two Testaments are not presenting precisely the same ethical code.  The sheer grace of God discovered in His regeneration upon conversion changes the sinner's moral motivation, even intensifying the sinner's motivation to pursue conformity to the Revealed Christ, not conformity to His type seen in the noble and inspired but admittedly inferior prophet Moses.])   

Having said all that, I would now dare to point out that Sproul's epigram (about defending one's wife) did not clearly differentiate between being personally persecuted for Christ's sake--i.e. being hassled (perhaps severely or even violently) for merely espousing Christian Truth--versus getting assaulted by some criminal who is not particularly motivated by a fulminant antipathy toward Christianity (and probably neither knows nor cares whether you are a Christian).  As I recall from harmonizing the gospels, Jesus Himself spoke at one point about the fact that His missionaries should take with them no carnal weapons and yet at another point, He said that they should take weapons for self-protection.   

At the bottom line, this matter of "turning the other cheek" is a moderately controversial doctrinal/practical topic, because spiritual situations (and all situations are ultimately spiritual, by the way) vary all over the place.  But if nothing else, the distinction that I have presented immediately above highlights what I believe is a self-evident fact that there are situations in which self-defense is inarguably just.  You can definitely shoot a bad guy in many if not most situations of deadly threats against your person.  The take-home point is that Quaker-style pacifism is not demanded of Christians.

(I remember a very old cartoon [probably 50 years ago in Reader's Digest] that showed a Quaker standing in his nightshirt with a pistol pointed at a burglar who had climbed through the bedroom window.  The caption was this:  "I would not harm thee for the world, friend, but thou standest where I am about to shoot.")

[mystery-ak]

@mystery-ak @Quix

Disappointed and surprised to find a NEWS story from The Hill moved here. 

I would like to keep all the Q articles in one place instead of scattered all over the forum.

[Victoria33]

@heckocopter
You said:  "Thanks. I did have a look at that post and one thing jumped out at me as factually wrong--

This seems to be rationalizing the fact that early on, Q made a lot of specific predictions that were definitively, verifiably wrong. "Huma Abedin's arrest will be announced on November 4th, and there will be riots and martial law." "Watch for false flags today." He learned his lesson and stopped.

Now, instead, he makes vague hints at things that are in the news and then claims credit for "predicting" when someone mentions something similar later on. This way, he can claim foreknowledge, but he can't be proven wrong, because his claims are basically never specific enough. He still manages, though, every month now there's some generic idea for how Big Things are Happening but nothing ever comes of it. "March Madness - Public will know soon." Hmm. Next up, April was supposed to be Arrests Month, and a huge month for the Awan case. Exactly nobody of any note was arrested in April, and Awan took a plea deal in June.

I would be happy to go through each of those proofs you posted but there simply isn't enough time in the day. I will say this though. The motive doesn't make sense. If Q wants to straightforwardly prove that he has an inside link to Trump, it would be completely simple for him to go to Trump and say "Donald, let me know the exact wording of your next tweet before you post it, and I'll post it first. Then everyone will know this thing is for real." Clear, unambiguous proof.

In fact a lot of these sites have fake "proofs" that claim to show this exact scenario, but none of them are actually real - the timezones don't match. Whenever Q quotes a Trump tweet, it's after Trump said it. Q supporters seem to recognize that this would be a reasonable proof of foreknowledge. So, why not do it?

Instead, we get vague pronouncements that go nowhere, cropped pics of somebody's ear, glamor shots of a pen, and people finding that Trump said some phrase months after it appeared in a Q post.

The usual rationalization for this is that Q's secrets are only for the faithful, and proving it so openly would ruin this somehow. That does not make this sound any less like a cult."
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@heckocopter, You got a nasty response from Quix, so I wanted to repost your post as it is very well written to give the reason fellow Qs have to be so secret with their information.  The less they say in single words or bits of words together, the less they will be wrong.  Q says people have to "research" it themselves to know what it means.  That causes people to do whatever they think is "research" and post that, which causes other people to do other "research" and post that which some other Q person(s) does/do whatever they call "research" of that word or phrase, and they post that, which someone else reads and does "research".....

Some Q followers accuse other Q followers to be "wrong", so they give their version of "right".  Understand thousands of people are reading all of the above and coming to love Q or hate Q.  This love/hate thing started with everyone should "love" Trump and if they don't then they "hate" Trump.  We have the same with Q.  If one doesn't love him, that one is a scum/dirtbag and "hate" Trump and Q.

The outcome of this is, either nothing, or some people get arrested, charged, go to trial, and are guilty or not.  If it is
Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump arrested, we will likely hear about it.  I recall both of them did something in government.   

[Quix]

FWIW,

Q-Anon warned us early on that some of their drops would be  DISINFORMATION,  misdirection etc. for strategic reasons.

Q followers are cool with that.

Naysayers tend to seize on it and screech a lot about how wrong Q is. Dream on.

[LegalAmerican]

Thanks for your exhortation. I'll prayerfully ponder it and consider where I need to amend my ways.

Quix;  Do not let them beat you down. Liberals love to distort events, that happen. Your way, is NOT to be "mean" on here, but posting truth, like people being foolish, IS TRUTH. They don't want to hear it.   Only those, who see themselves like that, would respond. lol  They feel "convicted". I know you understand that.  I call it VOLUNTEERING to be insulted.       

[LegalAmerican]

  "Turn the other cheek", is meant for other CHRISTIANS.  NOT FOR THE ENEMY!   Turn the other cheek, to allow them to CONTINUE TO HARM YOU?  THAT IS NOT COMMON SENSE.  The Bible, has been sooooo. distorted, for Christians own death, as used by EVIL.  Evil, uses the scriptures to destroy Christians, while EVIL goes merrily along. Who started this baloney?  Only Christ will be Christ-like. Humans are not Christ, although the LEFT want others to "act like Christ", while they, LIE, DISTORT, TWIST, the truth and spout scripture to use....against real Christians. Christians do need to wake up to this ploy the LEFT have found. The LEFT are moral now?  I laugh. Ha.  Pizzagate.

[Sanguine]

  "Turn the other cheek", is meant for other CHRISTIANS.  NOT FOR THE ENEMY!   Turn the other cheek, to allow them to CONTINUE TO HARM YOU?  THAT IS NOT COMMON SENSE.  The Bible, has been sooooo. distorted, for Christians own death, as used by EVIL.  Evil, uses the scriptures to destroy Christians, while EVIL goes merrily along. Who started this baloney?  Only Christ will be Christ-like. Humans are not Christ, although the LEFT want others to "act like Christ", while they, LIE, DISTORT, TWIST, the truth and spout scripture to use....against real Christians. Christians do need to wake up to this ploy the LEFT have found. The LEFT are moral now?  I laugh. Ha.  Pizzagate.

Unfortunately, none of that is Biblically based.  Not sure where you get your opinions; I just know where you don't get them.

[LegalAmerican]

Well said, The_Doc.  We are on the same page. "Make your plows into swords ".  The other way,  all Christians would be,,,dead!  That is not what God intended. We are to FIGHT evil, not make excuses for it.  Not be 'nice" to it.   

[LegalAmerican]

Unfortunately, none of that is Biblically based.  Not sure where you get your opinions; I just know where you don't get them.

Yes it is. You think Christ wants EVIL to take over?  I said, the Bible has been distorted.  I have attended many a Bible study. You think when Christians allow evil by turning the other cheek,  they will survive?  They will be extinguished. God does not want that. FIGHT evil, not defend it, support it, make excuses for it. I said, scripture has been distorted. Only God will act like God. Don't expect humans to act like God, they will always fail.  Why the LEFT, PUT CHRISTIANS on some pedestal, I will never understand. That thinking is on others, not Christians. It is a journey, being spiritually mature.  Common sense, wins. So, you support Christian genocide?  (see, I can post like a left.)
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[Sanguine]

Yes it is. You think Christ wants EVIL to take over?  I said, the Bible has been distorted.  I have attended many a Bible study. You think when Christians allow evil by turning the other cheek,  they will survive?  They will be extinguished. God does not want that. FIGHT evil, not defend it, support it, make excuses for it. I said, scripture has been distorted. Only God will act like God. Don't expect humans to act like God, they will always fail.  Why the LEFT, PUT CHRISTIANS on some pedestal, I will never understand. That thinking is on others, not Christians. It is a journey, being spiritually mature.  Common sense, wins. So, you support Christian genocide?  (see, I can post like a left.)
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Matt 5:40 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; 41and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two.