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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2018, 06:14:04 am »
Sure mister, your avatar just screams "family site".

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2018, 09:59:29 am »
That's a gun.

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2018, 11:49:33 am »
Uh....uh..... stiffened it with sour creme??? 

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #129 on: August 03, 2018, 12:22:39 pm »
That's not fennel you silly person. Those are pot seeds.

Nope.....get your microscope out.  Those are pork borer worms.  Yummy
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #130 on: August 03, 2018, 12:30:43 pm »
I just don't like 'em, @roamer_1.  They weren't common when I was growing up, and I never developed a taste for them.

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2018, 12:44:26 pm »
I have read many of @INVAR posts since becoming a member. His language tends to be strong and he tends to get negative reactions from some. But I respect and admire his consistency and his tenacity to hold onto conservative principles regardless of the reactions he receives. In fact, although I try to be more diplomatic in my post, I find myself more on his side than not. He feels that these principles go beyond any party or any president and you can’t help but deeply respect that

 But on the flipside, I  also understand pragmatism.  So how do you balance  principles and pragmatism without losing the moral authority to be critical when the “other team’s guy”  does things like, oh let’s say, add another trillions to the debt over eight years?  This is how you create  “whataboutism.”
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2018, 01:05:23 pm »
Of course over here everything east of the Trinity River looks just like Louisiana.

Still as southern as I am, I just as soon eat chalk than grits.  Actually they are pretty close and the same.

One of my friends describes grits as laundry soap (the old powdered kind, not the pods.)

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #133 on: August 03, 2018, 01:06:54 pm »
I have read many of @INVAR posts since becoming a member. His language tends to be strong and he tends to get negative reactions from some. But I respect and admire his consistency and his tenacity to hold onto conservative principles regardless of the reactions he receives. In fact, although I try to be more diplomatic in my post, I find myself more on his side than not. He feels that these principles go beyond any party or any president and you can’t help but deeply respect that

 But on the flipside, I  also understand pragmatism.  So how do you balance  principles and pragmatism without losing the moral authority to be critical when the “other team’s guy”  does things like, oh let’s say, add another trillions to the debt over eight years?  This is how you create  “whataboutism.”

I'd appreciate if you would stop with the hijacks and stick to the topic being discussed.

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #134 on: August 03, 2018, 01:08:35 pm »
I'd appreciate if you would stop with the hijacks and stick to the topic being discussed.

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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #135 on: August 03, 2018, 01:11:34 pm »
I have read many of @INVAR posts since becoming a member. His language tends to be strong and he tends to get negative reactions from some. But I respect and admire his consistency and his tenacity to hold onto conservative principles regardless of the reactions he receives. In fact, although I try to be more diplomatic in my post, I find myself more on his side than not. He feels that these principles go beyond any party or any president and you can’t help but deeply respect that

 But on the flipside, I  also understand pragmatism.  So how do you balance  principles and pragmatism without losing the moral authority to be critical when the “other team’s guy”  does things like, oh let’s say, add another trillions to the debt over eight years?  This is how you create  “whataboutism.”


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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2018, 01:27:56 pm »
Thank you sir for the compliment.  :beer:

But on the flipside, I  also understand pragmatism.  So how do you balance  principles and pragmatism without losing the moral authority to be critical when the “other team’s guy”  does things like, oh let’s say, add another trillions to the debt over eight years?

Well, we have over 30 years of seeing what  'pragmatism' looks like.  30 years of surrendering to the Left via one half step forward and five steps backwards, and adopting their agenda in pieces to supposedly advance Conservatism.

Now we are lectured that we have to be pragmatic and 'play nice with liberalism' in order to 'win' in one hand and cheerlead antagonistic bullying in the other at the same time simply to support whatever it is 'their guy' is doing.

Conservatives used believe in the idea that Conservatism works overtime it's tried.

Now "Conservatives" tell us that principles and morality are 'losers' and to support their guy or shut up and get lost.
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2018, 01:29:40 pm »
I have read many of @INVAR posts since becoming a member. His language tends to be strong and he tends to get negative reactions from some. But I respect and admire his consistency and his tenacity to hold onto conservative principles regardless of the reactions he receives. In fact, although I try to be more diplomatic in my post, I find myself more on his side than not. He feels that these principles go beyond any party or any president and you can’t help but deeply respect that

 But on the flipside, I  also understand pragmatism.  So how do you balance  principles and pragmatism without losing the moral authority to be critical when the “other team’s guy”  does things like, oh let’s say, add another trillions to the debt over eight years?  This is how you create  “whataboutism.”

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DITTOS, but that I certainly fall entirely upon the side of principles, right alongside of @INVAR , I am sure... There is no place for pragmatism *at all* when it comes to the principle things. Principles are TRUE and UNMOVABLE, by definition. How does one pragmatically ignore the truth?

That does not mean there is no room to compromise, but that compromise must needs begin after the principle things are served. That's what cracks me up about these 'pragmatist' arguments... It is never wise to be 'pragmatic' with foundational truths.
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #139 on: August 03, 2018, 02:18:24 pm »
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #140 on: August 04, 2018, 07:35:48 am »
I'm thinking cheese and jalapeños could make them edible.

Can you order grits on Amazon?
Cheese and jalapenos could make most anything edible, and Tabasco is a good back up.
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2018, 08:20:57 am »
Cheese and jalapenos could make most anything edible, and Tabasco is a good back up.

Tabasco, for when you can't decide between a little pepper flavor or some vinegar, and end up just getting the mix totally wrong.
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Re: Walking the lonely conservative road in the Age of Trump (Leach)
« Reply #142 on: August 04, 2018, 07:45:11 pm »
Tabasco, for when you can't decide between a little pepper flavor or some vinegar, and end up just getting the mix totally wrong.
Between that and Sriracha you can cover a multitude of sins. 
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