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So ... I wish that there was a viable candidate running against Scott.  I might just sit this election out.  I think Scott made a terrible decision signing legislation dismantling the 2A, and I sure as heck don't like Nelson.

More than 450 people in Florida ordered to give up guns under new law, report says

Hundreds of gun owners in Florida have been ordered to give up their guns under a new law that took effect after the deadly Parkland shooting in February, according to a report published Monday.

The Risk Protection Order, signed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott just three weeks after a gunman killed 17 people at Stoneman Douglas, aims to temporarily remove weapons from gun owners who have been deemed by a judge to possibly be a threat to themselves or others.

Roughly 200 firearms have been confiscated in the state since the law was enacted, Sgt. Jason Schmittendorf, of the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, told WFTS-TV. "Around 30,000 rounds of ammunition" were also taken, he said.

A five-person team in the county that's worked solely on the risk protection law reportedly has filed 64 risk protection petitions in court. Broward County, according to the news outlet, has filed 88 risk protection petitions since March.

"It’s a constitutional right to bear arms and when you are asking the court to deprive somebody of that right we need to make sure we are making good decisions, right decisions and the circumstances warrant it,” Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told the station in defense of the task force..........

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/30/more-than-450-people-in-florida-ordered-to-give-up-guns-under-new-law-report-says.html
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Temporaily?  Yeah right. 

Sounds like the law violates due process rights. Hope this law is challenged in the courts. Take it to SCOTUS.

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Temporaily?  Yeah right. 
Sounds like the law violates due process rights. Hope this law is challenged in the courts. Take it to SCOTUS.
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"...temporarily remove weapons from gun owners who have been deemed by a judge to possibly be a threat to themselves or others."

If a person owning a gun is disliked by one on the team deciding if the gun gets taken, that person's gun is gone. 

Someone who doesn't like a person who has a gun, can complain to the court, trying to get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

Someone the Judge doesn't like can get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

This is a very bad law.
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@Applewood

"...temporarily remove weapons from gun owners who have been deemed by a judge to possibly be a threat to themselves or others."

If a person owning a gun is disliked by one on the team deciding if the gun gets taken, that person's gun is gone. 

Someone who doesn't like a person who has a gun, can complain to the court, trying to get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

Someone the Judge doesn't like can get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

This is a very bad law.

Also....in general, how many people over 65 years old are taking some form of anxiety medication?

That's certainly a target rich environment in which to disarm citizens.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2018, 11:46:43 pm by DCPatriot »
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Every petition filed under the order in Pinellas County has so far been granted by the judge, according to the report.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/30/more-than-450-people-in-florida-ordered-to-give-up-guns-under-new-law-report-says.html

“To the subject of this protection order: This order is valid until the date noted above. You are required to surrender all firearms and ammunition that you own in your custody, control, or possession. You may not have in your custody or control, or purchase, possess, receive, or attempt to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition while this order is in effect. You must surrender immediately to the (insert name of local law enforcement agency) all firearms and ammunition in your custody, control, or possession and any license to carry a concealed weapon or firearm issued to you under s. 790.06, Florida Statutes. A hearing will be held on the date and at the time noted above to determine if a risk protection order should be issued. Failure to appear at that hearing may result in a court issuing an order against you which is valid for 1 year. You may seek the advice of an attorney as to any matter connected with this order.”[/b]

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.401.html


Well, you know.....confiscation first - due process later.
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Also....in general, how many people over 65 years old are taking some form of anxiety medication?

That's certainly a target rich environment in which to disarm citizens.

The over 65 group?

Look again.

One in six Americans take some kind of psychiatric drugs — mostly antidepressants, researchers reported Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/one-6-americans-take-antidepressants-other-psychiatric-drugs-n695141

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There's the problem with telling em anything.

Buy used off the back of a truck and STFU

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The over 65 group?

Look again.

One in six Americans take some kind of psychiatric drugs — mostly antidepressants, researchers reported Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/one-6-americans-take-antidepressants-other-psychiatric-drugs-n695141

Was aware of that.

But if we want to talk about percentage of the over 65 group...it has to be at least 65% take or have taken some type of anxiety drug.
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There's the problem with telling em anything.

Buy used off the back of a truck and STFU

Again @roamer_1 , you live in Big Skies....hard to do effectively in a densely populated jurisdiction.
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Again @roamer_1 , you live in Big Skies....hard to do effectively in a densely populated jurisdiction.

Give me 500 bucks and plant me anywhere in these United States and I will have a gun in less than two days.

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Give me 500 bucks and plant me anywhere in these United States and I will have a gun in less than two days.

Don't disagree with that.

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Don't disagree with that.

Well... All that's left is the STFU part...

 :shrug: :tongue2:

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Well... All that's left is the STFU part...

 :shrug: :tongue2:

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Not meaning to be flippant... I am sorry for that. But I have kin in Chicago, and as far back as my grandfather, they have all been armed. Law be damned. And it don't get much more regulated than Chicago.

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Not meaning to be flippant... I am sorry for that. But I have kin in Chicago, and as far back as my grandfather, they have all been armed. Law be damned. And it don't get much more regulated than Chicago.

LOL!  Didn't take it as an insult.  I 'feel' ya.

The original point was that a lot more people will be turned into felons...in the name of self-defense.
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Was aware of that.

But if we want to talk about percentage of the over 65 group...it has to be at least 65% take or have taken some type of anxiety drug.

65%? Source please.

https://www.acl.gov/sites/default/files/programs/2016-11/Issue%20Brief%205%20Prescription%20Med%20Misuse%20Abuse.pdf

Approximately 25 percent of older adults use prescription psychoactive medications that have a potential to be misused and abused.

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LOL!  Didn't take it as an insult.  I 'feel' ya.

The original point was that a lot more people will be turned into felons...in the name of self-defense.

Well, then maybe it's time to move.

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@Applewood

"...temporarily remove weapons from gun owners who have been deemed by a judge to possibly be a threat to themselves or others."

If a person owning a gun is disliked by one on the team deciding if the gun gets taken, that person's gun is gone. 

Someone who doesn't like a person who has a gun, can complain to the court, trying to get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

Someone the Judge doesn't like can get his/her gun taken away from him/her.

This is a very bad law.

Extremely bad law.  Governor Scott has some other issues on his record but this has to be the worst and this bozo is now running for the Senate.  As far as I know he is unopposed.  I cannot vote for someone who signed a bill infringing on the 2A. To me he's a RINO and I just can't vote for him. I'm leaning towards sitting this one out.
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Give me 500 bucks and plant me anywhere in these United States and I will have a gun in less than two days.

Now you tell me.  :whistle:
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65%? Source please.

https://www.acl.gov/sites/default/files/programs/2016-11/Issue%20Brief%205%20Prescription%20Med%20Misuse%20Abuse.pdf

Approximately 25 percent of older adults use prescription psychoactive medications that have a potential to be misused and abused.

But I'm not talking about that type.   I'm talking about Zoloft...or even Lexipro. 

They prescribe that stuff for seniors who suddenly start experiencing their bodies break down and start asking for CTScans/MRIs.    :laugh:

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Now you tell me.  :whistle:


I think he means arrested within 2 days.    :police:
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But I'm not talking about that type.   I'm talking about Zoloft...or even Lexipro. 

They prescribe that stuff for seniors who suddenly start experiencing their bodies break down and start asking for CTScans/MRIs.    :laugh:

So you just make up numbers out of thin air?

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So you just make up numbers out of thin air?

Just reading your posts in this stream....each one comes with qualifiers.

I'm only speaking about senior citizen gun owners who take a myriad of pills for high BP and other maladies, who don't see themselves healing but getting worse...only to be told to take an anxiety pill.

Bam!  You're on a list.

I'm not here to fight with you over the accuracy of numbers.

The other day I said 80 million followers Pres. Trump has on Twitter.   It's 54 million.  Still a lot, but yes, an exaggeration.  Next time, I'll type "...a billion".   
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Give me 500 bucks and plant me anywhere in these United States and I will have a gun in less than two days.

What if I planted you in South Philly around Ridge and Sedgley? You would end up disappeared along with your $500.

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If a mental health professional says they are a danger to the public, yes.
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