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Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« on: July 30, 2018, 09:05:05 pm »
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U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he would be willing to meet Iran's leader without preconditions to discuss how to improve ties after he pulled the United States out of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, saying, "If they want to meet, we'll meet."
Asked at a White House news conference whether he was willing to meet with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, Trump said: "I'd meet with anybody. I believe in meetings," especially in cases where war is at stake.
Trump's remarks represented a marked softening in rhetoric from a week ago, when he lashed out at Rouhani in a tweet, saying "Never, ever threaten the United States again or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before.".....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-hes-willing-to-talk-to-iran-without-preconditions/ar-BBLh7Vq?ocid=spartanntp

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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 09:21:28 pm »
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 10:17:03 pm »
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He will have a meeting behind closed doors - just him and the Iranian President - and we will never know what was said.  This seems to be the plan from now on after the Russian behind closed door meeting.  When you see the nuclear missile coming, hide under your desk -that was supposed to work back in the 50s, early 60s.  Has that changed?  wink777
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 10:22:02 pm »
Quote from: Victoria33 on July 30, 2018, 10:17:03 pm
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He will have a meeting behind closed doors - just him and the Iranian President - and we will never know what was said.  This seems to be the plan from now on after the Russian behind closed door meeting.  When you see the nuclear missile coming, hide under your desk -that was supposed to work back in the 50s, early 60s.  Has that changed?  wink777

For us country folk, it was fine advice, as it could help reduce injury from a distal blast.

For those at ground zero, though, it wouldn't do much!


I just can't wait to find out what deal we get with Iran.  After all, they're SO trustworthy!
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Quote from: Victoria33 on July 30, 2018, 10:17:03 pm
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He will have a meeting behind closed doors - just him and the Iranian President - and we will never know what was said.  This seems to be the plan from now on after the Russian behind closed door meeting.  When you see the nuclear missile coming, hide under your desk -that was supposed to work back in the 50s, early 60s.  Has that changed?  wink777

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Lol

Well, when the next Democrat gets in office and wants to meet with whatever dictator or tyrant, our mouths will have to stay shut.
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 10:40:33 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 30, 2018, 10:26:02 pm
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Well, when the next Democrat gets in office and wants to meet with whatever dictator or tyrant, our mouths will have to stay shut.

History with John Kerry and B. Hussein confirms that assertion.
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2018, 11:42:16 pm »
Here comes another wall-to-wall two-week Media/RINO shitstorm.

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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2018, 12:26:14 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 30, 2018, 10:31:20 pm
I knew I heard that term before.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/21/barack-obama-iran-negotiations


Some of this may sound a bit familiar, as well....


"QUESTIONER: "A year ago in South Carolina you said you would meet, in your first year as president, with President Ahmadinejad without preconditions. Is there anything you have heard today here in discussions with Israeli leaders that has made you rethink that pledge or are you still standing by that?" OBAMA: "Dan, I think you have to take a look at what the question was in South Carolina and how I responded. The question is would I meet with leaders without preconditions in pursuit ... But I think what I said in response was that I would, at my time and choosing, be willing to meet with any leader if I thought it would promote the national security interests of the United States of America.  And that continues to be my position, that if I think that I can get a deal that is going to advance our cause, then I would consider that opportunity. But what I also said was that there is a difference between meeting without preconditions and meeting without preparation." (Barack Obama, Press Conference, Sderot, Israel, 7/23/08)


Also, the SoS came out not long after Trump's statement to list some preconditions.


“If the Iranians demonstrate a commitment to make fundamental changes in how they treat their own people, reduce their malign behavior, can agree that it's worthwhile to enter into a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation, then the president said he's prepared to sit down and have the conversation with them,” Pompeo said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399597-pompeo-sets-conditions-for-iran-meeting-after-trump-says-hell-meet
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 01:36:30 pm »
Two words: Bad Idea.. If they want to meet us there has to be preconditions.
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 01:51:22 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 31, 2018, 01:36:30 pm
Two words: Bad Idea.. If they want to meet us there has to be preconditions.

When you have all the upper hands, you set the rules. Just like North Korea, these meetings don't serve us anything and gives them the world stage recognition they want.
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2018, 01:56:46 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 31, 2018, 01:51:22 pm
When you have all the upper hands, you set the rules. Just like North Korea, these meetings don't serve us anything and gives them the world stage recognition they want.

They are recognized already for what they are.  That dog won't hunt.
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2018, 02:06:01 pm »
Quote from: edpc on July 31, 2018, 12:26:14 pm

Also, the SoS came out not long after Trump's statement to list some preconditions.


“If the Iranians demonstrate a commitment to make fundamental changes in how they treat their own people, reduce their malign behavior, can agree that it's worthwhile to enter into a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation, then the president said he's prepared to sit down and have the conversation with them,” Pompeo said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399597-pompeo-sets-conditions-for-iran-meeting-after-trump-says-hell-meet

I would feel a lot more secure if Pompeo were President.   :shrug:

(No surprise, btw, that Trump's latest version of what we will do is an echo of Barack Obama.  And no surprise that he has said two opposite things within a short time.  Are both honest?  *****rollingeyes*****)
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2018, 02:49:52 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 31, 2018, 02:06:01 pm
(And no surprise that he has said two opposite things within a short time.  Are both honest?  *****rollingeyes*****)

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Slip these on and it will all make sense....



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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2018, 02:58:35 pm »
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2018, 03:02:15 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 31, 2018, 01:56:46 pm
They are recognized already for what they are.  That dog won't hunt.

LOL. The establishment GOP, who were all ready to declare Obama's Iran agreement fait accompli, are now Iran hawks in full throated opposition to anything Trump suggests.


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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2018, 03:02:43 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 31, 2018, 02:06:01 pm
No surprise, btw, that Trump's latest version of what we will do is an echo of Barack Obama.  And no surprise that he has said two opposite things within a short time.  Are both honest?  *****rollingeyes*****)


He wasn't sincere in the offer to begin with.  Outside information gets into Iran a lot easier than a nation like North Korea.  This is an effort to feign an attempt at dialogue, so when it's rejected (and it was), opposition within the country can cite that when sanctions re-impose this fall.  One thing to watch with the oil sanctions will be how Turkey - a supposed NATO ally - responds.  They've already stated they will continue with oil purchases. 
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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2018, 03:05:46 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 31, 2018, 03:02:15 pm
LOL. The establishment GOP, who were all ready to declare Obama's Iran agreement fait accompli, are now Iran hawks in full throated opposition to anything Trump suggests.

I'm glad you added the "LOL" -- because this continued sh*t can drive a person crazy.   :laugh:


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Found Trump's secret.......

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Re: Trump says he's willing to talk to Iran without preconditions
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2018, 04:36:42 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 30, 2018, 09:21:28 pm
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Iran's rial is tanking due to US sanctions.

They can bluster all they like.

Trump owns them and they know it.
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