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WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that Maryland and the District of Columbia can proceed with their lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump of unconstitutionally accepting payments from foreign and state interests through his Washington hotel. The decision clears the way for the plaintiffs to seek financial records and other materials from the president's company.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Peter J. Messitte, based in Maryland, rejected arguments from the Justice Department that earnings from business activities, including hotel room stays, do not qualify as unconstitutional gifts. At issue is the Constitution's emoluments clause, which bans federal officials from accepting benefits from foreign or state governments without congressional approval. The plaintiffs argue Trump's hotel harms area businesses because of the president's ties.

Messitte's ruling was the first time that a federal judge has interpreted the emoluments clause, which had never been fully tested in an American courtroom. Two other lawsuits based on the emoluments clause are also being heard in other federal courts.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ruling-trump-lawsuit-could-open-door-financial-records-170918501--finance.html
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Re: Trump Hotel Ruling Could Open Door To His Financial Records
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2018, 08:58:54 pm »
Not like Hillary, through her phony charity actually did do what Trump is being accused of.

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 09:04:01 pm »
Messitte's ruling was the first time that a federal judge has interpreted the emoluments clause, which had never been fully tested in an American courtroom.

Guess this will not be over for some time then.  Don't expect to see any Trump financial records NTer's now or evar.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 09:16:28 pm »
Guess this will not be over for some time then.  Don't expect to see any Trump financial records NTer's now or evar.


Don’t be so sure they won’t ever be seen. In 2005, Trump filed suit against journalist Tim O’Brien over a book saying his wealth was exaggerated. After many motions and delays, O’Brien was given access to his unredacted tax information. He is still under a gag order to not discuss what he saw.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 09:27:20 pm »

Don’t be so sure they won’t ever be seen. In 2005, Trump filed suit against journalist Tim O’Brien over a book saying his wealth was exaggerated. After many motions and delays, O’Brien was given access to his unredacted tax information. He is still under a gag order to not discuss what he saw.

Nice "Stretch" to equate two different cases about two different things.   
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 09:39:14 pm »
Nice "Stretch" to equate two different cases about two different things.


 They are both about his finances, you dolt.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 09:50:37 pm »

 They are both about his finances, you dolt.

No it is about your 24/7 Trump hate.  Carry on with the insults though. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2018, 09:55:19 pm »
No it is about your 24/7 Trump hate.  Carry on with the insults though.


Whether I like someone or not does not dictate whether a suit is brought or what it’s substance happens to be.  If my disdain for people had the power you seem to assign it, there’d be a lot less of you in the world.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2018, 09:57:12 pm »

Whether I like someone or not does not dictate whether a suit is brought or what it’s substance happens to be.  If my disdain for people had the power you seem to assign it, there’d be a lot less of you in the world.

You are just talking gibberish now.  If it was frontier gibberish I could laugh.  But sadly it is just elitist gibberish.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2018, 10:05:37 pm »
You are just talking gibberish now.  If it was frontier gibberish I could laugh.  But sadly it is just elitist gibberish.


Somehow, I get the impression you consider people with all their own teeth to be ‘elite.’
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2018, 10:29:22 pm »

Somehow, I get the impression you consider people with all their own teeth to be ‘elite.’

See there you go again. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2018, 10:30:28 pm »
You guys are cracking me up!    :rolling:
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Re: Trump Hotel Ruling Could Open Door To His Financial Records
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2018, 04:10:07 am »
There are two dynamics that have to be understood. Those that want to see his business and tax records might well get to before his presidency is over. However the 2nd dynamic is going to cause a lot of the left to start crying once it becomes common knowledge. Trust me on this. If Trump has improper or down right illegal activity chronicled in those records it would have already leaked. Sorry, it is just the truth!

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2018, 04:14:43 am »
I love how these NT threads effing wither and die because no one gives a shit about the stupidity of the topic.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2018, 04:44:31 am »
I love how these NT threads effing wither and die because no one gives a shit about the stupidity of the topic.

I really like how they bring out the unhinged on both sides.

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2018, 04:53:41 am »
I really like how they bring out the unhinged on both sides.

Are you calling me unhinged you dirty GD rotten no good piece of filthy miserable worthless damned son of a bitch?

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2018, 04:57:00 am »
Are you calling me unhinged you dirty GD rotten no good piece of filthy miserable worthless damned son of a bitch?

I'm hesitant to admit this, but I believe you're one of the most hinged that people here.  Besides me of course.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2018, 05:19:23 am »
I'm hesitant to admit this, but I believe you're one of the most hinged that people here.  Besides me of course.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2018, 05:30:38 am »
Hinged? Well I do like to swing.

Aren't you an interesting fellow.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2018, 07:47:45 pm »
Hinged? Well I do like to swing.
Aren't you an interesting fellow.

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