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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2018, 05:37:46 pm »
Quote from: Concerned on July 20, 2018, 05:32:46 pm
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Principles?  You make me laugh.  So many Trump supporters gave those up when they criticized Obama's deficit spending but simply accept it when "their guy" does it. 
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Somewhere I think we are ships passing in the night and just missed it.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2018, 05:37:48 pm »
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2018, 05:37:57 pm »
Quote from: Concerned on July 20, 2018, 05:32:46 pm
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Principles?  You make me laugh.  So many Trump supporters gave those up when they criticized Obama's deficit spending but simply accept it when "their guy" does it. 
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Forget that Trump said that's exactly what he was going to do, he did not campaign as a small government conservative. Someone's not being honest here and I don't think it's Trump.

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2018, 05:38:41 pm »
Talk about "principles", you aren't a player on social issues, you gave those up with your anti-Trump stances.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2018, 05:38:44 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2018, 05:16:09 pm
I believe voters have already made a determination about the young lothario Trump and have decided to keep him anyway.

The Left and NeverTrump Republicans will just have to swallow that fact.


LOL.....the 'young lothario' was a 60 year old man having simultaneous unprotected dalliences with (at least) a playboy model and a porn actress, while his 3rd wife was taking care of their 6 month old son.  What an absolute low life.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2018, 05:40:52 pm »
Everyone knew that this was the type of person that Trump was when they voted for him.  Nothing burger......
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2018, 05:42:59 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 20, 2018, 05:36:19 pm
I'm sorry, never-Trumpers made the decision to not be a part of things, Conservatism is happening and no thanks to you.

No, Conservatism is NOT happening.  Liberal Populism is happening.  Deficit spending is happening.  Vows and morality ridiculed is happening.

Why would an actual Conservative want to be a party to that?

I know, I know... if your fellow Conservatives are jumping off a cliff onto rocks, then the rest of us should too according to you people.

Quote from: mrpotatohead on July 20, 2018, 05:40:52 pm
Everyone knew that this was the type of person that Trump was when they voted for him.  Nothing burger......

Exactly.  Same as those who voted for Obama and Hildabeast knew what they were when they voted for them.

Vote for the known-liar and cretin, but believe what they promise you.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2018, 05:43:22 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on July 20, 2018, 05:40:52 pm
Everyone knew that this was the type of person that Trump was when they voted for him.  Nothing burger......

Yep that's true....
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2018, 05:44:02 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2018, 05:16:09 pm
I believe voters have already made a determination about the young lothario Trump and have decided to keep him anyway.

The Left and NeverTrump Republicans will just have to swallow that fact.

Just like in 1992, everybody knew what Bill Clinton was, and they voted for him, anyway.  People really don't care, they assume all politicians are horndogs.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2018, 05:45:39 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 20, 2018, 05:38:41 pm
Talk about "principles", you aren't a player on social issues, you gave those up with your anti-Trump stances.

Well, that's your problem right there.  I'm never going to be a "player" when it comes to principles and morality.  They are not up for surrender to the politician who promises me what I want to hear.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2018, 05:45:44 pm »
It's not like we (or his 2nd and 3rd wives) didn't know trump laid more track than the Union Pacific Railroad over the years.  So get over it. 
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2018, 05:47:08 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 20, 2018, 05:45:44 pm
It's not like we (or his 2nd and 3rd wives) didn't know trump laid more track than the Union Pacific Railroad over the years.  So get over it.

And look at Jimmy Carter, who's greatest sex scandal was admitting that he had 'lust in his heart'.   How did that work out?
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2018, 05:48:09 pm »
Quote from: Concerned on July 20, 2018, 05:32:46 pm
@INVAR

Principles?  You make me laugh.  So many Trump supporters gave those up when they criticized Obama's deficit spending but simply accept it when "their guy" does it. 
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LOL, yep.

I don't take much credence in accusations of 'virtue signaling' from those who support acting without virtue at all.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2018, 05:52:20 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 20, 2018, 05:36:28 pm
Is it just me....?..... that thinks Giuliani has been an underwhelming embarrassment?

No, it's not just you.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2018, 06:00:00 pm »
I'm not about to go,

Vote R,
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush 41.. not that time.
1992 Bush 41
1996 Dole
2000 Bush 43
2004 Bush 43
2008 McCain
2012,  Romney

Oh, I'm going to NOT vote for the Republican candidate in 2016 and that in spite of whomever seems to basically support liberalism with their disdain for others.

 *please*

Congrats to the morality police, showing others their faults.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2018, 06:02:22 pm »
When you run for office, you have to be able to point out old gal friends that might come back and say they had an affair. (For Big Bucks)

I thought you had to turn on the beeper to record people? Have we no laws anymore?
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2018, 06:02:22 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 20, 2018, 05:37:57 pm
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Forget that Trump said that's exactly what he was going to do, he did not campaign as a small government conservative. Someone's not being honest here and I don't think it's Trump.

I agree someone's not being honest and I'm afraid it's you.  Aren't you the one who argues about how "conservative" Trump is?  So he's "conservative" just not "fiscally conservative"?  Jeez.  Here's a report from during the campaign:

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Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”
Eliminating that amount of debt in eight years is highly improbable, according to most economists, The Washington Post reported. It could require using $2 trillion a year from the annual $4 trillion budget to pay off holders of the debt.

When's he going to "wipe out the debt"?  He's adding to it.  Let's keep it honest please.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2018, 06:03:21 pm »
What does not kill you makes you stronger.

After the Access Hollywood tape broke on candidate Trump in October the voters went ahead and voted for the Donald anyway in November. That means voters made up their minds and were willing to hire him anyway. They knew they weren’t getting a choirboy.

I think Trump has acquired immunity or dispensation, or something.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2018, 06:04:43 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2018, 06:03:21 pm
What does not kill you makes you stronger.

After the Access Hollywood tape broke on candidate Trump in October the voters went ahead and voted for the Donald anyway in November. That means voters made up their minds and were willing to hire him anyway. They knew they weren’t getting a choirboy.

I think Trump has acquired immunity or dispensation, or something.

We voted for a "choirboy" in 1976, it didn't work out.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2018, 06:04:49 pm »
So, if the tape is 'exculpatory,' as Rudy claims, why would Cohen tape this brief, seemingly innocuous conversation it and retain it?  My theory:  Trump is on tape requesting payment in check form, so 'there is a record.'  It makes everything look above board, should the deal arrangement with The Enquirer ever get out.  It's a CYA tape and they know it.  It's exactly why Giuliani has previously said 'as long as Michael tells the truth,' they're fine.  They're preparing to call him a liar, if he cooperates and tells the full story.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2018, 06:07:10 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 20, 2018, 05:48:09 pm
LOL, yep.

I don't take much credence in accusations of 'virtue signaling' from those who support acting without virtue at all.

Who started the ridiculous "virtue signaling" anyway?

The only times I've seen that accusation used have been when the one who uses it opposes virtue itself. 

Why would you want to indict yourself like that in public?   :shrug:
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2018, 06:09:32 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on July 20, 2018, 06:04:43 pm
We voted for a "choirboy" in 1976, it didn't work out.

So that requires voting for a "lothario" so that things DO work out?

What kind of pretzel logic is that, anyway?

Your comment makes absolutely no sense....

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2018, 06:11:52 pm »
Quote from: Concerned on July 20, 2018, 05:32:46 pm
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Principles?  You make me laugh.  So many Trump supporters gave those up when they criticized Obama's deficit spending but simply accept it when "their guy" does it. 
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Where are the Repukes that do want to cut spending?
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2018, 06:13:10 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on July 20, 2018, 06:11:52 pm
Where are the Repukes that do want to cut spending?

Unfortunately, they're deferring to the President of the United States.  That's precisly why I think we need REAL leadership on tackling the debt and the deficit.  Hopefully in 2020.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2018, 06:14:59 pm »
Quote from: Concerned on July 20, 2018, 06:13:10 pm
Unfortunately, they're deferring to the President of the United States.  That's precisly why I think we need REAL leadership on tackling the debt and the deficit.  Hopefully in 2020.

Why? They are the ones who originate the spending bills, I'm sure Trump would sign whatever they'd put across his desk if it cut spending.  There's nothing stopping them.
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