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NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« on: July 19, 2018, 01:31:31 pm »
NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
By John Bowden - 07/19/18 09:25 AM EDT

A conservative columnist with The New York Times is urging top members of the Trump administration to step down after President Trump seemingly sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin against U.S. intelligence agencies during a joint press conference.

Bret Stephens wrote in an op-ed Thursday that national security adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo should resign over Trump's remarks Monday in which he said that he couldn't see any evidence why it "would" be Russia behind election interference during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Assuming Mike Pompeo and John Bolton still have their own senses intact, they too should resign following the epic disgrace of the U.S.-Russia summit in Helsinki on Monday. So should their senior staff," Stephens, who considers himself a "#NeverTrump" conservative, wrote Thursday.

Stephens went on to accuse the two men of "covering up" for the president's mistakes and losing their place in the conservative argument against Russia and Putin's actions around the world.

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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 01:37:12 pm »
@mystery-ak

Rather than resigning, I expect they are trying to protect the country now from Trump after he sided with Putin.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2018, 01:45:19 pm »
We need them now more than ever.  The farther afield Trump goes, the more we need stability in foreign relations.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2018, 01:46:39 pm »
It's disingenuous to say Trump sided with Putin. He didn't declare war on Russia, which seems to be what the war-mongering left wanted.  :shrug:
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 01:55:10 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 19, 2018, 01:45:19 pm
We need them now more than ever.  The farther afield Trump goes, the more we need stability in foreign relations.

Why are you so eager to buy the Leftist spin?
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 02:13:56 pm »
Let's see now.  Born in New York....ie a New York Jew.  Educated in Chicago and London.  Appeared on the Bill Maher show.  Works for the New York Times.  And this guy is supposed to be a Conservative???  In what alternate universe would that be?  He sounds more like a climate-change denying, war-mongering Bushbot to me. 

In my experience... any time the New York Times defends someone's "intellectual honesty and fairness".... that someone is anything BUT a rightie!

https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/04/25/new-york-times-defends-hiring-climate-science-denier-bret-stephens-claiming-intellectual-honesty

So...can anybody point me to anything that would certify his "Conservative" creds?  I'll only believe it if/when I see it.  And until then, I refuse to believe this guy is what they claim he is.  Anything but a Bushie anti-Trumper, that is.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2018, 02:14:47 pm »
A NYT conservative columnist.  Isn't that an oxymoron?
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 02:24:34 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 19, 2018, 02:14:47 pm
A NYT conservative columnist.  Isn't that an oxymoron?

Indeed it is. 
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 02:33:00 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 19, 2018, 02:14:47 pm
A NYT conservative columnist.  Isn't that an oxymoron?

In military parlance, a "NYT conservative columnist" is a REMF.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 04:54:21 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on July 19, 2018, 01:55:10 pm
Why are you so eager to buy the Leftist spin?

Simple answer. I’m not.

I think for myself and don’t believe anybody’s spin.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 04:57:15 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 19, 2018, 01:45:19 pm
We need them now more than ever.  The farther afield Trump goes, the more we need stability in foreign relations.

Why?   Foreign relations are like all relations.  They start to stink after a few days.  I say we treat them like one night stands.   
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2018, 04:57:38 pm »
Quote from: Victoria33 on July 19, 2018, 01:37:12 pm
@mystery-ak

Rather than resigning, I expect they are trying to protect the country now from Trump after he sided with Putin.

If by 'siding with Putin' you mean that Trump didn't punch him out during peace talks @Victoria33 , well yeah.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 04:58:34 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 19, 2018, 04:54:21 pm
Simple answer. I’m not.

I think for myself and don’t believe anybody’s spin.

Maybe, but you seem to post from a place of deep distrust for Trump.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2018, 04:59:52 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 19, 2018, 02:13:56 pm
Let's see now.  Born in New York....ie a New York Jew.  Educated in Chicago and London.  Appeared on the Bill Maher show.  Works for the New York Times.  And this guy is supposed to be a Conservative???  In what alternate universe would that be?  He sounds more like a climate-change denying, war-mongering Bushbot to me. 

In my experience... any time the New York Times defends someone's "intellectual honesty and fairness".... that someone is anything BUT a rightie!

https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/04/25/new-york-times-defends-hiring-climate-science-denier-bret-stephens-claiming-intellectual-honesty

So...can anybody point me to anything that would certify his "Conservative" creds?  I'll only believe it if/when I see it.  And until then, I refuse to believe this guy is what they claim he is.  Anything but a Bushie anti-Trumper, that is.

I didn't know his history but I immediately wondered what a conservative on the NYTimes would look like.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2018, 05:03:39 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on July 19, 2018, 04:58:34 pm
Maybe, but you seem to post from a place of deep distrust for Trump.

You are correct.

I distrust Trump because of my own observations regarding his behavior and wildly disparate statements on issues, as well as his problem with making truthful remarks.

I am not in any way influenced by the left.
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2018, 05:10:35 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on July 19, 2018, 05:03:39 pm
You are correct.

I distrust Trump because of my own observations regarding his behavior and wildly disparate statements on issues, as well as his problem with making truthful remarks.

I am not in any way influenced by the left.

That's just super @musiclady   Nice to have a dispassionate viewpoint around here.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2018, 05:24:28 pm »
This is porn for the dead ender NT's. Totally meaningless blather by someone claiming to be a Conservative, but no one has ever heard of.
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Re: NYT conservative columnist urges Pompeo and Bolton to resign
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2018, 05:51:47 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 19, 2018, 05:24:28 pm
This is porn for the dead ender NT's. Totally meaningless blather by someone claiming to be a Conservative, but no one has ever heard of.

An apropos new term I heard a couple of days ago: "Morality Peacocks"

It really fits for the daily drumbeat of "Republican" and media/opinion "journalists" like Flake, Sasse, George Will etc.

And some off our members here.,

They should all be grateful that Trump's voters elected him, shortcomings and all,, so we all get the benefits of more conservative policies.

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2018, 07:47:31 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on July 19, 2018, 05:10:35 pm
That's just super @musiclady   Nice to have a dispassionate viewpoint around here.

Thanks for the sincere and truthful compliment.  It means SO much to me.  :laugh:
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2018, 12:53:15 am »
Lol .  .  .  "NYT Conservative columnist"
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Quote from: XenaLee on July 19, 2018, 02:13:56 pm
Born in New York....ie a New York Jew.


As were most of the people I knew while growing up. As were some of the guys I knew in the Army, back from Vietnam as I was.

Let's not paint with too broad a brush, please.

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Quote from: endicom on July 20, 2018, 01:11:10 am

As were most of the people I knew while growing up. As were some of the guys I knew in the Army, back from Vietnam as I was.

Let's not paint with too broad a brush, please.
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