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SOURCE: GATEWAY PUNDIT

URL: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/putin-blows-apart-russia-collusion-probe-says-russian-group-gave-400000000-to-hillary-clinton-video/

by Jim Hoft



During the press conference Putin dropped a bomb!



Putin accused a Bill Browder of donating $400,000,000 to HILLARY CLINTON!!!

Vladimir Putin:

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Last year there was one extradition case by the United States… Mueller can use this treaty as an official request to us… in this case this kind of effort should be a reciprical one… For instance we can bring up Mr. Browder… They sent a huge amount of money $400,000,000 to Hillary Clinton!

Putin offered permitting officials in the US, including Mueller, to Russia to assist in their investigation of the supposed Trump-Russia collusion story. Then Putin dropped his bomb where the US could reciprocate Russia in one of their investigations –


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« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 05:47:40 pm by SirLinksALot »

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Here's the exact translated quote from Russian to English:

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For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder, in this particular case.  Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia and never paid any taxes neither in Russia or the United States and yet the money escaped the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent [a] huge amount of money, $400,000,000, as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton.  Well that’s their personal case.  It might have been legal, the contribution itself but the way the money was earned was illegal.  So we have solid reason to believe that some [US] intelligence offers accompanied and guided these transactions.  So we have an interest in questioning them.

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MORE on Bill Browder… Browder is an American-born British financier. He is the CEO and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, an investment fund that at one time was the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia.

The Russian government put Browder on the Interpol most wanted list in  2017.

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Huh?  $400,000,000?  Seems like an amount like that ought to be somewhat easy to track.

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So this revelation came right before Trump then said he saw the Russians did nothing?

Four hundred million sure seems like an attempt to influence an election and sure does smack of a violation of campaign finance laws.

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Let's see....$400,000,000 moved to Clinton, yet the DOJ is hell bent on investigating Trump.  Got it!
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Browder? Why does that name ring bells? 

Perhaps it's related to this:    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Browder

Who just happens to be the grandfather of the Bill Browder spoken of in the article.
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MORE on Bill Browder… Browder is an American-born British financier. He is the CEO and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, an investment fund that at one time was the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia.

The Russian government put Browder on the Interpol most wanted list in  2017.


@SirLinksALot

See my post above..
« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 10:54:38 pm by Bigun »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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The US media has been as quiet as a flattened church mouse on this tidbit.

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So this revelation came right before Trump then said he saw the Russians did nothing?

I took Trump's comments to mean no Russian government officially sanctioned meddling. I do not think he was claiming all 150 million Russians had clean hands.

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Browder? Why does that name ring bells? 

Perhaps it's related to this:    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Browder

Who just happens to be the grandfather of the Bill Browder spoken of in the article.

 8888huh

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@Sanguine

Bill Browder was just on CNN at an undisclosed location.

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@Sanguine

Bill Browder was just on CNN at an undisclosed location.

What did he say?

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OK, before we believe Putin, remember this -- He is a murderer and a liar ( but yeah, sometimes liars do tell the truth, but be sure it's not half of the truth or less ).

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OK, before we believe Putin, remember this -- He is a murderer and a liar ( but yeah, sometimes liars do tell the truth, but be sure it's not half of the truth or less ).

Agreed.  I want to see some definitive proof before I believe this.

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Hillary also involved in Uranium One, giving the Russians material to make nuclear weapons with. I don't know what could be worse than that... and I think I've read before, from Russia, some made it's way to Iran.

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OK, before we believe Putin, remember this -- He is a murderer and a liar ( but yeah, sometimes liars do tell the truth, but be sure it's not half of the truth or less ).

He may just tell the truth - if telling the truth is in his interests.

Theoretically, Putin may have 'outsourced' political hacking and meddling in our elections in order to give himself official deniability, much as he's doing militarily in Syria. I imagine its possible he now possesses the results of that effort, the contents of Hillary's server, and he might very well consider it in his interests to offer that exculpatory evidence to the administration in exchange for, say, easing of sanctions.

A very dicey situation for all parties.
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He may just tell the truth - if telling the truth is in his interests.

Theoretically, Putin may have 'outsourced' political hacking and meddling in our elections in order to give himself official deniability, much as he's doing militarily in Syria. I imagine its possible he now possesses the results of that effort, the contents of Hillary's server, and he might very well consider it in his interests to offer that exculpatory evidence to the administration in exchange for, say, easing of sanctions.

A very dicey situation for all parties.


It is also entirely possible that our own, highly politicized, intelligence agencies could have done the same thing!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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I don't buy it in the case of Putin, but in another forum, not FR but this guy was discussing the war in Vietnam and the South Vietnamese regime accused of doing some bad things. It was said that in some of these cases, the value system is just different. Sure, to us Westerners, some of these things look very bad but the situation, "situational ethics" is different.

I'm sure, if one wanted to clean up Mexico, some of what you'd have to do wouldn't be pretty.

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It is also entirely possible that our own, highly politicized, intelligence agencies could have done the same thing!

Imagine being Trump, aware of the existence of conclusive evidence that would uncover the entire deep state plot, but being unable to access it without inviting a veritable bombardment of 'collusion' charges. Although he hasn't committed any offense worse than ill advised comments at a press conference he'd find himself in a political minefield where one misstep and boom.

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Imagine being Trump, aware of the existence of conclusive evidence that would uncover the entire deep state plot, but being unable to access it without inviting a veritable bombardment of 'collusion' charges. Although he hasn't committed any offense worse than ill advised comments at a press conference he'd find himself in a political minefield where one misstep and boom.


Yep!   888high58888
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Huh?  $400,000,000?  Seems like an amount like that ought to be somewhat easy to track.

I suspect that $400 million got mistranslated--a fairly common mistake of language. 

(Of course, a 400-million-dollar bribe is just chicken feed.  No story here.) 

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There was some sort of counter to this initial article in the press today....here it is, I have not read the story close enough...

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Putin's Pants-on-Fire claim about $400 million donation to Clinton from Bill Browder partners
By Jon Greenberg on Monday, July 16th, 2018 at 5:28 p.m.

Russian President Vladimir Putin offered a novel idea to advance the Russia investigation during a joint news conference with President Donald Trump in Helsinki.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team could come to his country, Putin said, if Russian investigators were allowed to go the United States to dig into alleged tax evasion by American-born financier Bill Browder and his associates.

"Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over 1.5 billion dollars in Russia," Putin said through a translator. "They never paid any taxes."

More at: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/16/vladimir-putin/putins-pants-fire-claim-about-400-million-donation/

Politifact in turn, is considered dubious, at least to conservatives.

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MOSCOW, July 17./TASS/. The Russian Prosecutor General’s Office is ready to send a request for the questioning of staffers of US intelligence services and public officers within the framework of a criminal case against Hermitage Capital founder William Browder, prosecutors’ spokesman Alexander Kurennoy told a briefing on Tuesday.

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"Browder’s criminal group funneled $1.5 billion from Russia into tax havens. Of this sum, at least $400 million was transferred to the Democratic Party’s accounts. Afterwards, our president asked us to correct the sum for $400,000 from $400 million," Kurennoi said.

More:
http://tass.com/world/1013707



Apparently, the original amount was overstated by a factor of 1000.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 09:25:38 am by edpc »
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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OK, before we believe Putin, remember this -- He is a murderer and a liar ( but yeah, sometimes liars do tell the truth, but be sure it's not half of the truth or less ).
So, if I might be so impertinent as to recall, is it alleged about the Clintons... :2popcorn:
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