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Neo-Nazi found guilty of killing 10 people, receives life sentence
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July 11, 2018
MUNICH — A Munich court has found the main defendant in a high-profile neo-Nazi trial guilty of murder over the killing of 10 people — most of them migrants — gunned down between 2000 and 2007 in a case that shocked Germany.

Judges on Wednesday sentenced Beate Zschaepe to life in prison.  ...  More


She seems nice.   :thud:
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... Zschaepe is the sole surviving member of a white supremacist terrorist cell that called itself the National Socialist Underground (NSU).

From 2000 to 2007, the three-member group was behind at least 10 murders — killing eight men of Turkish origin, a Greek migrant and a German female police officer — as well as carrying out two bombings in immigrant areas of Cologne and 15 bank robberies, according to prosecutors.  ...
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Zschaepe

That's not a German name I recognize.
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Idiot. If they had been a Muslim they would have gotten six months and a fine.
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It was 3 persons from a Neo-Nazi cell from what I recall.  So, they tried the woman while the two males were killed or committed suicide. I guess, she was a girlfriend of one of them.

Picture of when they did this from 10-12 years ago, I remember the story. They targeted people such as Turks I remember.

(picture, no reason to post image here) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/06/article-2320129-199AF2EB000005DC-819_634x469.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320129/Neo-Nazi-murder-trial-Defiance-Beate-Zschaepe-turning-victims-families.html

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She is the sole survivor of neo-Nazi terrorist cell

Two of her alleged accomplices were found dead last November


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The cell imploded after a botched bank robbery in November 2011, 13 years after they went underground to live from the proceeds of similar heists across the country.

Her male accomplices, Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Boehnhardt, both died – Mundlos shot Boehnhardt before turning the gun on himself.
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That's not a German name I recognize.
She came from East Germany. Her parents were both Romanian.
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Idiot. If they had been a Muslim they would have gotten six months and a fine.
No, they wouldn't! They would have gotten an apology and a huge cash settlement.

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She came from East Germany. Her parents were both Romanian.

Ah, a Gypsy then.

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Neo-nazi gypsies?

Some people who throw around the term Nazi are quite ignorant of actual history.

GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN ROMA (GYPSIES), 1939–1945
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005219

Among the groups the Nazi regime and its Axis partners singled out for persecution on so-called racial grounds were the Roma (Gypsies).

Drawing support from many non-Nazi Germans who harbored social prejudice towards Roma, the Nazis judged Roma to be "racially inferior." The fate of Roma in some ways paralleled that of the Jews. Under the Nazi regime, German authorities subjected Roma to arbitrary internment, forced labor, and mass murder. German authorities murdered tens of thousands of Roma in the German-occupied territories of the Soviet Union and Serbia and thousands more in the killing centers at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka. The SS and police incarcerated Roma in the Bergen-Belsen, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Mauthausen, and Ravensbrück concentration camps. Both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in the so-called Generalgouvernement, German civilian authorities managed several forced-labor camps in which they incarcerated Roma.
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Some people who throw around the term Nazi are quite ignorant of actual history.

GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN ROMA (GYPSIES), 1939–1945
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005219

Among the groups the Nazi regime and its Axis partners singled out for persecution on so-called racial grounds were the Roma (Gypsies).

Drawing support from many non-Nazi Germans who harbored social prejudice towards Roma, the Nazis judged Roma to be "racially inferior." The fate of Roma in some ways paralleled that of the Jews. Under the Nazi regime, German authorities subjected Roma to arbitrary internment, forced labor, and mass murder. German authorities murdered tens of thousands of Roma in the German-occupied territories of the Soviet Union and Serbia and thousands more in the killing centers at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka. The SS and police incarcerated Roma in the Bergen-Belsen, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Mauthausen, and Ravensbrück concentration camps. Both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in the so-called Generalgouvernement, German civilian authorities managed several forced-labor camps in which they incarcerated Roma.

Yes, that was my point.  The media is so ignorant. 

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Ah, a Gypsy then.

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FWIW, not everyone in Romania is Roma (Gypsy). Some years ago I read a book about the Roma – “Bury Me Standing”. It was a good read, very interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CFAVJO/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1fff

It delved into the various populations spread across Europe, for instance, some are Christian, Orthodox and some are Muslim depending on where they settled such as Turkey or Eastern Europe.

The book also went into their origins, which is what is now Northern India and Pakistan. Interestingly their language has roots in the Indo-Aryan language.

Hitler espoused the virtues of the Aryan race, but in actuality the Aryans, speakers of the Indo-Aryan language came from ancient Iran and the northern Indian subcontinent. So in a sense the Roma (Gypies) may have had more of a claim of being the true Aryan race than do the blonde blue eyed Germanic and Scandinavian version that Hitler and the neo-Nazis imagine.
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FWIW, not everyone in Romania is Roma (Gypsy). Some years ago I read a book about the Roma – “Bury Me Standing”. It was a good read, very interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CFAVJO/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1fff

It delved into the various populations spread across Europe, for instance, some are Christian, Orthodox and some are Muslim depending on where they settled such as Turkey or Eastern Europe.

The book also went into their origins, which is what is now Northern India and Pakistan. Interestingly their language has roots in the Indo-Aryan language.

Hitler espoused the virtues of the Aryan race, but in actuality the Aryans, speakers of the Indo-Aryan language came from ancient Iran and the northern Indian subcontinent. So in a sense the Roma (Gypies) may have had more of a claim of being the true Aryan race than do the blonde blue eyed Germanic and Scandinavian version that Hitler and the neo-Nazis imagine.

That's explained very well. I thought it was something along these lines.

Romanians are probably called that because Rome did conquer Romania and Romanians speak a Latin-based ( Romance) language such as Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese all are. I think Romanian appears much more difficult than, at the least, Italian and Spanish.

English: How are you today? What is your name?
Spanish: ¿Cómo estás hoy? ¿Como te llamas?
Romanian: Cum te simÈ›i azi?  Cum te numeÈ™ti?

Let's say, you can see a slight similarity between Spanish and Romanian. In large blocks of the Romanian language, I believe, then, it gets difficult to read what they are saying versus the above well known phrases.

And somehow, Roma (Gypsy) are more associated with Romania and Hungary for that matter and then, a few other countries as well. The Nazis imprisoned them as well. Romania also fought on the side of the Axis powers I believe.
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Dammit Frank! Now I have to relives the Gypsy Camp at Knott's Berry Farm with that damn music blaring all the time! Next you're gonna do something to bring back two years of hell listening to endless repetitions of Joplin's "The Entertainer"!!

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Dammit Frank! Now I have to relives the Gypsy Camp at Knott's Berry Farm with that damn music blaring all the time! Next you're gonna do something to bring back two years of hell listening to endless repetitions of Joplin's "The Entertainer"!!

Gotta listen to more Classical and Jazz. It programs loops in you that are better at Blocking stuff like out.
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