I am sick and tired of your virtue signaling. Of course babies are precious, but your statement was that by acknowledging the liberty of women I was "defending abortion", which you insist is "murder".
In fact, she is right. It is not the liberty of women to kill their children in the womb. That
@Jazzhead , is a damnable lie, though I count you as merely deceived...
NO WOMAN IN A PERFECT WORLD WANTS AN ABORTION. The circumstances that compel women to abort are tragic, and unique to the life of each woman. No money. A dashed future. Abandonment by parents or partner. Plain and simple fear. There is no size fits all solution.
All basically wrong-headed... The fears of a young girl that knows no better. I have seen it over and over again.
Sure no money - I get that. But compared to that child, money doesn't even matter. A dashed future? No. Her whole world. 99 times out of 100, all she has to do is get through the birth and hold that child in her arms, and she will know that vital truth with every fiber of her being.
Abandonment? Likely a temporary situation, or not true at all, at least around here. Sure, her lover will often flee, but often, in fact mostly, she will return to her father's house, or to her grandfather's house. Family will usually help pick up the slack.
But hectoring those who advocate persuasion rather than coercion as "defending" the practice is obnoxious.
It is not coercion. The coercion is in the intervention of a natural process which must necessarily reach it's just and proper end - convincing the woman to do otherwise damages her right down to her soul. I have seen that too, over and again.
Yes, your attitude hardens hearts, because your fundamental argument is that people who don't agree with you are evil.
It is in fact evil. There is nothing more evil on this entire earth, than to cut an innocent child out of the womb. It is the ACT and the ADVOCACY that are evil. By far and away, the actual victims are the child of course, and that child's mother, who, either way, will learn the truth of it, and the deception in what you advocate.
Did it ever occur to you that those who don't advocate criminalizing abortion are as troubled by the practice as you are? Of course not - you're all about virtue signaling, not saving lives.
Did it ever occur to you that it is you that is virtue signaling? Your advocacy does nothing to save lives - it destroys them. Pure and simple truth.
I have often said I went the wrong way back in my misspent youth, and I know a whole lot of women who did the same in their youth... to a woman, those gals, every one I can think of, once they actually passed a child into life, became absolutely dead set against abortion. And they know the difference better than most.