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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2018, 05:06:49 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2018, 04:56:07 pm
Yup.  That's why leftists prefer the courts to enter the political atmosphere:  It's so they can do the "dirty work," as it's been coined, without the ugliness of elections.  The definition of "tyrant" is in there.

This is why the left is OK with SCOTUS Justices like Ginsberg openly declaring their intent to fashion all laws to meet their sensibility as to how things should be.

Exactly.

While we're on the subject (lol).....

anybody got any good lawyer jokes?   :laugh:

Here's one...

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
A: Senator.
Q:  What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 20?
A:  Some know-it-all schmuck on a political forum.

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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2018, 05:08:44 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2018, 05:06:49 pm
Exactly.

While we're on the subject (lol).....

anybody got any good lawyer jokes?   :laugh:

Here's one...

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
A: Senator.
Q:  What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 20?
A:  Some know-it-all schmuck on a political forum.



That’s pretty good. 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2018, 05:09:13 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on July 01, 2018, 04:58:48 pm
You clearly don’t know how law works.  And yet, that doesn’t stop you from opining to kingdom come.

"Leave the law to lawyers!  They know better!"

The best lawyer joke of the thread.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2018, 05:10:24 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on July 01, 2018, 05:03:55 pm
True, they do, but so rarely do they mistake their own ignorance for such a vast expanse of wisdom.

Projecting much?
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2018, 05:11:14 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2018, 05:10:24 pm
Projecting much?

Not nearly as much as you. 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2018, 05:13:33 pm »
The Constitution doesn't mean jack shit people.  That is no longer the law, or how 'law' works in this country anymore.



Under Trump the Constitution is making a come back. A couple more conservatives on the Supreme
Court and we might just return to being a constitutional republic.

Very important, vote GOP this November.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2018, 05:15:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2018, 05:09:13 pm
"Leave the law to lawyers!  They know better!"

The best lawyer joke of the thread.

Yeah, because self-represented people are so damned good at defending themselves.  Why do you think the Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to assistance of counsel?  Do you think that maybe the Founders were cognizant of something?  Or maybe this was just a way of guaranteeing themselves jobs in the future since so many were lawyers. 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2018, 05:16:13 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on July 01, 2018, 05:13:33 pm
Very important, vote GOP this November.

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

The GOP gets no more votes from me.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2018, 05:16:14 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2018, 05:09:13 pm
"Leave the law to lawyers!  They know better!"

The best lawyer joke of the thread.

I would like to see a law that says lawyers can not serve in legislatures. Lawyers making the laws
is a conflict of interests.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2018, 05:18:12 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 01, 2018, 05:16:13 pm
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

The GOP gets no more votes from me.

Yes I know, if the folks had listened to you Hillary would be picking judges instead of Trump. Thank
goodness enough of us did not listen and elected President Trump.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2018, 05:19:35 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2018, 05:06:49 pm
Exactly.

While we're on the subject (lol).....

anybody got any good lawyer jokes?   :laugh:

Here's one...

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
A: Senator.
Q:  What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 20?
A:  Some know-it-all schmuck on a political forum.

That is harsh.  You have to water people daily with a 20 IQ.   Give them at least a 30!
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2018, 05:21:30 pm »
Wow. What a train wreck thread over something a mentally challenged woman said. She speaks as though she had multiple strokes and then drank a half bottle of Ripple.

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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2018, 05:21:45 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on July 01, 2018, 04:45:03 pm
Yup.   Those who clamor for the judge-created right to abortion to be taken away

No one here is clamoring for that, Mr. Strawman.  For all those here who love the Constitution, we are only asking that it be followed.  Absent any act of Congress, the abortion question should be left to each state.  Even Roe says this after the 24th week.  Your entire 'abortion-is-a-Constitutional-right' schtick is complete bullshit.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2018, 05:23:35 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on July 01, 2018, 05:18:12 pm
Yes I know, if the folks had listened to you Hillary would be picking judges instead of Trump. Thank
goodness enough of us did not listen and elected President Trump.

You have your reward.  Trump is all yours.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2018, 05:27:54 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on July 01, 2018, 05:16:14 pm
I would like to see a law that says lawyers can not serve in legislatures. Lawyers making the laws
is a conflict of interests.

Include Presidents, and I will sign on.  We've had five lawyers elected President.  All five of them sucked.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2018, 05:29:18 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on July 01, 2018, 05:16:14 pm
I would like to see a law that says lawyers can not serve in legislatures. Lawyers making the laws
is a conflict of interests.

Anyone who legislates has an inherent conflict of interest because they have an incentive to game the rules to favor themselves.  That hazard is not limited to lawyers. 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2018, 05:30:37 pm »
I have never understood how Susan Collins could call herself a Republican.  How could she continue to win over and over and over in her state when she seldom votes for anything put forth by Republicans? 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2018, 05:35:56 pm »
Quote from: Victoria33 on July 01, 2018, 05:30:37 pm
I have never understood how Susan Collins could call herself a Republican.  How could she continue to win over and over and over in her state when she seldom votes for anything put forth by Republicans?

You said the key phrase "in her state."  It's an extreme-left state, and like Massachusetts, that's the best kind of Republican you can get rom there.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2018, 05:36:53 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on July 01, 2018, 05:29:18 pm
Anyone who legislates has an inherent conflict of interest because they have an incentive to game the rules to favor themselves.  That hazard is not limited to lawyers.

I think that's basically true.  It has me wondering if "Representation by Lot" might be a valid approach.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2018, 05:37:51 pm »
The "right to abort" was an invention of the courts.  OF COURSE it's an example of judicial tyranny ... as was common with so many rulings in that era ... after two centuries of allowing states to regulate such matters.  Due process clause?  Yeah, try & imagine how that interpretation would have been received in 1868. 

But what it boils down to is ... sure, a textualist would vote to overturn Roe.  John Roberts would not, so until a progressive retires, this should not be used to disqualify a nominee.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #70 on: July 01, 2018, 05:38:00 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on July 01, 2018, 05:19:35 pm
That is harsh.  You have to water people daily with a 20 IQ.   Give them at least a 30!

Lol!
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #71 on: July 01, 2018, 05:39:32 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 01, 2018, 05:27:54 pm
Include Presidents, and I will sign on.  We've had five lawyers elected President.  All five of them sucked.

Two of whom.... had their law-licenses revoked at some point.  Both Democrats, of course.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #72 on: July 01, 2018, 05:43:11 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2018, 05:36:53 pm
I think that's basically true.  It has me wondering if "Representation by Lot" might be a valid approach.

Doesn’t fix the problem.  The lot-drawers are the ones who write the laws, and therefore have a conflict of interest. 
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2018, 05:46:44 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on July 01, 2018, 05:43:11 pm
Doesn’t fix the problem.  The lot-drawers are the ones who write the laws, and therefore have a conflict of interest.

Yes, and they'd be practically powerless against the entrenched bureaucrats.
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Re: Collins: Won’t Support SCOTUS Pick Hostile To Abortion Rights
« Reply #74 on: July 01, 2018, 05:48:17 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2018, 03:50:29 pm
So, I take from this..... that if the nominee is not "hostile" to Roe v. Wade.... that the GOP will then have her vote?   Who the hell is she kidding?  We've seen her voting record.

What a total beeoch.  I cannot stand her.
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