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A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« on: June 28, 2018, 01:07:52 pm »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/27/new-civil-war-already-upon-us/

A new civil war is already upon us

By Charles Hurt
The Washington Times
Wednesday, June 27, 2018

“Beware the coming civil war!” Coming?

Oh, it’s already upon us. And it has been raging for some time now.

The once-serious political party known as “Democrats” has been hijacked by lawless lunatics who have been sowing discontent and fomenting violence for years now.

Just ask all the families of police officers in America who have been executed over the past four or five years by militants inspired by the so-called “Black Lives Matter” movement.

This would be the same movement that Democratic leaders are terrified of standing up to. When their last standard bearer — Hillary Clinton — made the grave error of declaring that “all lives matter,” she later issued an apology and a correction.

After a lifetime in politics, you would think that the woman might understand that political rhetoric has consequences.

Yes, this civil war is upon us.

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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2018, 01:19:12 pm »
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The once-serious political party known as “Democrats” has been hijacked by lawless lunatics who have been sowing discontent and fomenting violence for years now.

As much as I hate to say it, this is '60s redux, right down to the heroin resurgance and the push for legal pot (with a different angle, of course). The COmmunists pretty much took over the Democrat Party 50 years ago, infiltrating at lower levels and waiting for the 'Blue Dog' dems to die off. Now the New Left (what they called themselves back when) is on top, up front, and in America's face, an ongoing tantrum, when they aren't just fleecing the masses.
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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2018, 01:26:25 pm »
As much as I hate to say it, this is '60s redux, right down to the heroin resurgance and the push for legal pot (with a different angle, of course).
I foresee a disco revival within a few years, in that case.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2018, 01:26:52 pm »
As much as I hate to say it, this is '60s redux, right down to the heroin resurgance and the push for legal pot (with a different angle, of course). The COmmunists pretty much took over the Democrat Party 50 years ago, infiltrating at lower levels and waiting for the 'Blue Dog' dems to die off. Now the New Left (what they called themselves back when) is on top, up front, and in America's face, an ongoing tantrum, when they aren't just fleecing the masses.

Except with shittier music this time, and shittier cars.

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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2018, 01:38:20 pm »
I foresee a disco revival within a few years, in that case.
A significant improvement over much of what is out there, unfortunately.
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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2018, 01:40:18 pm »
If Conservatives Set Aside Civility To Fight The Left’s Rude Provocation, We Will All Lose, from The Federalist.
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...  I will never accept the premise that I must be a bully to win a culture war, and neither should you.

Yet it is jaw-dropping how quickly the right has weaponized the double standard to permit their side the same wrongs that have been inflicted on them. Seriously, are you really on board with telling socialists they can’t eat at your establishment, or buy your gift cards, or use your car wash? Would you rather not show them kindness and that you are not, in fact, a brainwashed bigoted monster incapable of hearing the other side or even being in the same room with them — which is how they very much would like to think of you?

Think this through.  ...
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2018, 01:41:37 pm »
I foresee a disco revival within a few years, in that case.

Which is a tragedy, because I don't look nearly as good in a pair of Angel Flights.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2018, 01:52:54 pm »
As much as I hate to say it, this is '60s redux, right down to the heroin resurgance and the push for legal pot (with a different angle, of course). The COmmunists pretty much took over the Democrat Party 50 years ago, infiltrating at lower levels and waiting for the 'Blue Dog' dems to die off. Now the New Left (what they called themselves back when) is on top, up front, and in America's face, an ongoing tantrum, when they aren't just fleecing the masses.

Exactly correct!   :beer:
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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2018, 02:36:26 pm »
I foresee a disco revival within a few years, in that case.

I was able to avoid most of the first disco episode, being somewhat of a rock-and-roll purist.  Hopefully, I can put those skills to use again.  Like riding a bicycle.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2018, 02:38:36 pm »
I was able to avoid most of the first disco episode, being somewhat of a rock-and-roll purist.  Hopefully, I can put those skills to use again.  Like riding a bicycle.

I was able to avoid most of it by being born right in the middle of it.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2018, 02:44:23 pm »
Which is a tragedy, because I don't look nearly as good in a pair of Angel Flights.

I'll have to find my old "Disco Sucks" tee shirt I wore 40 years ago.   Moth holes and all.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2018, 02:47:35 pm »
I'll have to find my old "Disco Sucks" tee shirt I wore 40 years ago.   Moth holes and all.

Look, I know no one will admit it now but judging from yesterdays Barry Gibb thread its clear there are several prominent posters who are BIG BeeGees fans.

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2018, 02:51:31 pm »
I was able to avoid most of the first disco episode, being somewhat of a rock-and-roll purist.  Hopefully, I can put those skills to use again.  Like riding a bicycle.

If you were a good looking guy, back in the day disco was where the action was. Now in the 60s,
early 70's the action was at dive rock and roll bars.

I think this mini civil war will be very much different then the one in the 60's early 70's. The 60
"rebel" was mostly a draft dodging pot smoking hippy that did not want to go to Vietnam. Today's
protester are an entirely different breed. Today's protesters are hard core Marxists and very nasty
ones at that. Hippies went after The Man, police stations and draft boards. The Marxists are going
after any one on the right. If they identify you as a Trump supporter you are fair game and they
will come after you. This time it's personal.

Another huge difference is that this time, the Marxists are getting help and encouragement from
political leaders and deep pocket money men.

It is hugely important to vote GOP in Nov.




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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2018, 02:54:28 pm »
I foresee a disco revival within a few years, in that case.

Goody.  I loved Donna Summer.  One problem.  Can't dance because of the sciatica.  :0012:
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2018, 02:57:48 pm »
Disco never left, it just got upgraded to techno.

Which is why there won't be a revival. Anyway there was a mini-revival in the 90's. People are tired of retro I think.

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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2018, 03:04:29 pm »
Goody.  I loved Donna Summer.  One problem.  Can't dance because of the sciatica.  :0012:

I can't dance either.  First have to learn how to re-climb stairs.   
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2018, 03:24:55 pm »
If you were a good looking guy, back in the day disco was where the action was. Now in the 60s,
early 70's the action was at dive rock and roll bars.

I think this mini civil war will be very much different then the one in the 60's early 70's. The 60
"rebel" was mostly a draft dodging pot smoking hippy that did not want to go to Vietnam. Today's
protester are an entirely different breed. Today's protesters are hard core Marxists and very nasty
ones at that. Hippies went after The Man, police stations and draft boards. The Marxists are going
after any one on the right. If they identify you as a Trump supporter you are fair game and they
will come after you. This time it's personal.

Another huge difference is that this time, the Marxists are getting help and encouragement from
political leaders and deep pocket money men.

It is hugely important to vote GOP in Nov.
I may mash the two together, because where I grew up they were somewhat comingled, but the Hillips, Yippies, SDS, Weathermen, Black Panthers and others were still nasty leftists. That was in a day and age when sayinf "F**k" in a movie was frowned upon and the standards of civility were higher.

We have gone downhill on the civility front, and as far as language goes, what was unacceptable, is now commonplace. Heated language, even provocative language is designed for impact, eliciting an emotional response (It's supposed to hurt). It elicits reactions, verbal or physical, and now we have over twice as many young black men growing up in homes with out fathers, with some seriously questionable male role models, bombarded with media which tell them how agreived they are or should be and just what to do about it. Not a viable solution, even if it is long term. Street gangs have increased, and with that the fundamental squad and platoon level organization for these often hardened footsoliders and wannabes The situation IS different.

You never heard of mass shootings 50 years ago unless it was the St. Valentines Massacre, outside of a military context (Malmedy, for instance), Kids went to school with a rifle in their hand to practice with the shooting team after class. It was a different culture. That creeping preparation by the Left for fomenting civil unrest has been going on for decades, commonly in odd and seemingly unrelated niches in Western Civilization, and while enforced civility may be the norm now, (Otherwise, "Hate" crimes/speech can be waved about), overall, we're a cruder, less caring culture than we used to be. We had a dcades which hammered home the "not getting involved/not my job man' attitude, and then launched into the 'memememe' of the coked up 80s, junk bonds, mega scams, etc. The people who were telling hippies to turn on tune in and drop out (and then flying across the country to say it again) were now stockbrokers.
Somewhere in there, life itself was devalued, not just in film and casual stories, but in the ruling on Roe v Wade, with the womb no longer being the safest place for a child.
There were riots, there were neighborhoods burned out which never completely recovered, there were occasional gunfights and bombs, and the whole bloody lot had exposed themselves as what they were. Thugs, con artists, scammers who affected an entire generation, yet they persist.
So, while life has been redefined as something to be taken on a whim, obscenity is limited to a few unprotected and still (almost) universally disgusting behaviours, the social stigma of being a druggie is dwarved by the allure of being a rehab grad (advertised nightly on TV), and the folks at NORML (remember them?) grow closer to victory each day.

While there is still much good about America, we have emphasized and protected the more negative aspects of our culture for decades, claiming "repression" if that isn't allowed, even as we have made tremendous technological growth. What benefit it a man to gain the world and lose his soul?


If the purveyors of public opinion can't be civil, why would anyone else, especially those who look to them for an example?

I think most people are tired of this crap. I know I am, and don't watch the echo chambers on teevee where nonsense is held up like glowing orbs of wisdom and all assent. I don't watch the 'discussions' where one drones talking points through the other's time. It's tedious, and I learn nothing except just how obnoxious some people can be.

But for all the crap out there about 'disrespect' it would be nice to see a little respect coming from the jackals of the media. Perhaps they confuse respect with agreement, but you'd think that for all their wanting respect from people who disagree with them, they could turn that around and accord the same respect to those they disagree with.
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Re: A new civil war is already upon us (Charles Hurt)
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2018, 03:28:35 pm »
There seems to be war in the cities, especially those with large concentrations of loonies, e.g., Portland. Whether it's spread to the heartland - or how long it takes to do so - remains to be seen. There are more of us with guns out here in "bitter clinger" land.
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