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Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« on: June 23, 2018, 12:39:15 pm »
Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'

By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Friday, June 22, 2018

A group of protesters gathered outside Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen’s Virginia townhouse Friday morning, chanting “no justice, no sleep” and blaring audio of immigrant children crying.

About two dozen protesters with the progressive group CREDO Action chanted with megaphones, waved signs that read “child snatcher” and played the ProPublica audio clip of immigrant children being separated from their parents at the border, HuffPost reported.

Ms. Nielsen was forced to walk by protesters shouting “Shame!” when she left her house, according to video posted on social media. One man shouted, “You belong in the Hague!” and, “You’re a modern-day Nazi!” as Ms. Nielsen entered her vehicle and left.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/22/protesters-descend-kirstjen-nielsens-home-no-justi/


I seem to recall this same type of mob action active in Germany in the early 1930s.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2018, 01:22:11 pm »
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The media is broadcasting 'protests' outside the home of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

These are not protests. The targeting the families of the political opposition is domestic terrorism.

Civil discourse has ended.

So start the clock: Unintended consequences arriving soon.
You're exactly right about the groupthink resembling 1930s Germany. That didn't end so well, either.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2018, 01:28:09 pm »
Yet plenty of people were cheering when protestors gathered at Gore's house, shouting for him to "get out of Cheney's house!"
I don't like it, but the First Amendment is inconvenient a lot of the time.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2018, 01:40:04 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on June 23, 2018, 01:28:09 pm
Yet plenty of people were cheering when protestors gathered at Gore's house, shouting for him to "get out of Cheney's house!"
I don't like it, but the First Amendment is inconvenient a lot of the time.

Um, that wasn't Gore's house.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2018, 01:44:51 pm »
These are not protests. The targeting the families of the political opposition is domestic terrorism.


It's also likely to escalate, I fear.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2018, 01:47:17 pm »
One difference is the distance from the house. The VP's house isn't just another residence on a street full of other private residences, and the protesters back then weren't right by the front door like this anti-Nielsen ones are. But I do agree that no protester should invade any person's home (regardless of political affiliation), including the sidewalk or street in front, and harass them in this manner.

Edit to note that I thought NHN was referring to the protests at the official VP residence. I disagree with the notion of harassing an entire residential neighborhood if one disliked politician lives there.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2018, 01:48:11 pm »
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 02:13:16 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on June 23, 2018, 01:22:11 pm
You're exactly right about the groupthink resembling 1930s Germany. That didn't end so well, either.

That is all we have now in this country is demanded group-think.

Vote Democrat or you are a mass-murdering, bigot, racist, homophobe, redneck.

Support Trump or you are a traitor that voted for Hillary.

If you liked the last Star Wars movie, you are just a shill for Disney and your house should be burned with you and your children locked inside.

Groupthink is reaching the stage of violence for not marching in lockstep.

I agree with the tweet: 'Civil discourse has ended'.

We are arriving where Weimar did.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2018, 02:33:42 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on June 23, 2018, 01:28:09 pm

I don't like it, but the First Amendment is inconvenient a lot of the time.


Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose. Your right to free speech stops at my home.

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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2018, 02:40:17 pm »
Quote from: endicom on June 23, 2018, 02:33:42 pm

Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose. Your right to free speech stops at my home.

And you know as well as I do the marxist left eventually won't bother stopping their fist at our nose.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2018, 04:29:36 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on June 23, 2018, 02:40:17 pm
And you know as well as I do the marxist left eventually won't bother stopping their fist at our nose.

"Eventually?"  I'd remind you Antifa has been beating people up at their "rallies."  Fists are already meeting noses.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2018, 05:45:07 pm »
Quote from: endicom on June 23, 2018, 02:33:42 pm

Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose. Your right to free speech stops at my home.

I agree.  Protesters should not be allowed on her property.  I believe she can file a restraining order to keep protesters a certain distance from her house.

Or maybe some Easy Riders can step in and teach those wimps manners.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2018, 05:54:09 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on June 23, 2018, 05:45:07 pm
I agree.  Protesters should not be allowed on her property.  I believe she can file a restraining order to keep protesters a certain distance from her house.

Or maybe some Easy Riders can step in and teach those wimps manners.

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The leftists have pulled this crap on other people around the country, busing protesters in to residential areas, and it's blown up in their faces every time.  This will too.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2018, 01:05:22 am »
Emjay wrote:
"Or maybe some Easy Riders can step in and teach those wimps manners."

Might be a good time for the "Patriot Riders" to motor in and "lend a hand"... ;)
Or at least, a few federal marshals.

I will give the protesters the right to assemble at a respectful distance, display placards, etc., within a timeframe that is deemed reasonable.

However, aren't there "noise ordinances" regarding the loud playing of music after certain hours? If these ordinances exist, why aren't they enforced?

If a restraining order can be issued against an anti-abortion group for protesting to close to a clinic, is it not unreasonable that a similar order should not be issued to protect persons in their homes?
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2018, 10:35:16 am »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on June 23, 2018, 01:48:11 pm
I'm referring to this incident...

http://observer.com/2000/12/pennyloafer-republican-populists-mob-gores-house-this-time-gop-is-playing-smarter-than-in-1998/
A crowd gathered at 34th and Massachusetts in DC is within spitting distance of the Vice President's residence at Number 1 Observatory Circle. That structure belongs to the United States, not Al Gore. While he could live there during his term, it was not his house, technically.
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Re: Protesters descend on Kirstjen Nielsen's home: 'No justice, no sleep'
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2018, 10:38:16 am »
Quote from: Fishrrman on June 24, 2018, 01:05:22 am
Emjay wrote:
"Or maybe some Easy Riders can step in and teach those wimps manners."

Might be a good time for the "Patriot Riders" to motor in and "lend a hand"... ;)
Or at least, a few federal marshals.

I will give the protesters the right to assemble at a respectful distance, display placards, etc., within a timeframe that is deemed reasonable.

However, aren't there "noise ordinances" regarding the loud playing of music after certain hours? If these ordinances exist, why aren't they enforced?

If a restraining order can be issued against an anti-abortion group for protesting to close to a clinic, is it not unreasonable that a similar order should not be issued to protect persons in their homes?
Disturbing the Peace, Maintaining a public nuisance, incitement to riot, etc....
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