Laura Bush: Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’

[Formerly Once-Ler]

The difference is, we have enough problems with our own natural-born citizenry, we need not facilitate the invasion of third world squatters who will further the strain on our culture and economy seeing as we have open borders to a welfare state.

Which is suicide for a nation to be encouraging and making excuses for.

Does history teach us nothing anymore?  Are we really that stupid to assume the lessons of what happens when you let barbarians into your gates and pay for their livelihoods is not going to be visited upon us?

American history is nearly 200 years of open borders.  The true problem is the welfare state not immigration.  Reducing immigration will not end American socialism.

[Sanguine]

Rising taxes are cause by increases in population?  Hard working Catholics are not compatible...you could be correct on that one.  Not a great answer but heartfelt I'm sure. 

I don't see the world you see.  I don't think taxes need to be raised because we import workers.  Latinos comprise 16-17% of our population it seems to me laughable that one could claim they dilute our culture.  I believe they enhance our culture, and they are very compatible with our traditions.  In fact since it is Tuesday I'm gonna go get a couple tacos.

Good grief, Once-ler.  Look at San Francisco.  When you import a large population with a different culture, you get massive tax increases.  Heck, working people can't afford to live in SF now.  And, the numbers are very clear - immigrants cost us.

[dfwgator]

Rising taxes are cause by increases in population?  Hard working Catholics are not compatible...you could be correct on that one.  Not a great answer but heartfelt I'm sure. 

I don't see the world you see.  I don't think taxes need to be raised because we import workers.  Latinos comprise 16-17% of our population it seems to me laughable that one could claim they dilute our culture.  I believe they enhance our culture, and they are very compatible with our traditions.  In fact since it is Tuesday I'm gonna go get a couple tacos.

But many of the people coming here are NOT working, some are, granted, but most now come here for the freebies.

[dfwgator]

  The true problem is the welfare state not immigration. 

On this, we agree.  But you know that welfare isn't going away anytime soon.

[Sanguine]

American history is nearly 200 years of open borders.  The true problem is the welfare state not immigration.  Reducing immigration will not end American socialism.

No, not true.  My family goes way back, and they had to enter legally.  Well, the ones that came from elsewhere.  The indigenous ones had their own issues.

But, you are correct about the welfare state.  Open borders and welfare state are incompatible.  Which is what we have.

[dfwgator]

American history is nearly 200 years of open borders.   

What???!?!?!??!   We didn't accept everyone that came through Ellis Island, we turned thousands away for various reasons, including being known anarchists or Communists.

[Bigun]

American history is nearly 200 years of open borders.  The true problem is the welfare state not immigration.  Reducing immigration will not end American socialism.

Can you name one other country on this planet that does not enforce it's borders?

[driftdiver]

Rising taxes are cause by increases in population?  Hard working Catholics are not compatible...you could be correct on that one.  Not a great answer but heartfelt I'm sure. 

I don't see the world you see.  I don't think taxes need to be raised because we import workers.  Latinos comprise 16-17% of our population it seems to me laughable that one could claim they dilute our culture.  I believe they enhance our culture, and they are very compatible with our traditions.  In fact since it is Tuesday I'm gonna go get a couple tacos.

@Once-Ler
We're not importing workers.  We are failing to lock the door.  Regardless, illegal immigration costs American taxpayers $135 billion a year in govt benefits and includes everything from welfare, food stamps, to medical care.

If you don't think they are dilluting our country and culture then I invite you to visit my area.  Where entire towns have transitioned from small farming communities to areas where Spanish is the predominate language and all the business have signs in spanish.

[driftdiver]

Can you name one other country on this planet that does not enforce it's borders?

@Bigun
Germany
France
Sweden

Its working out well for them, so well in fact they get rid of cars in the periodic burnings and let the unneeded woman be raped to death.   

[INVAR]

American history is nearly 200 years of open borders. 

WRONG.

Start with the 1924 Immigration Act to discover how incorrect such an statement is.

[dfwgator]

WRONG.

Start with the 1924 Immigration Act to discover how incorrect such an statement is.

The Japanese were so upset by that, because they felt Japanese were singled out,  that it paved the way for the militarists to take over in Japan, and well, you know the rest of the story.

[txradioguy]

WRONG.

Start with the 1924 Immigration Act to discover how incorrect such an statement is.

Thanks to Ted Kennedy we've had the longest period of uninterrupted immigration in this nations history.  50+ years.

We have never ever had open borders in America.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

No, not true.  My family goes way back, and they had to enter legally. 

Disingenuous.  Your family entered legally because it wasn't illegal to enter. No law had been written to exclude them.  My great grandparents emigrated at the beginning of the 20th century.  They spoke no English, had no money, and no visa.  They gathered in a small but growing Polish community called Steven's Point WI to work on the railroads and lumber mills.  Much like the Chinese did 20 years earlier.  But Congress passed a law because people said the same racist crap they say about latinos.  They don't integrate, they spread disease, they're criminals...so the government excluded Chinese people.

The battle over illegal immigration began to get real traction with voters as Government became the provider for more and more American's substance and Americans became concerned that the gravy train was going to get smaller.

[truth_seeker]

In Truth, the US and much of Europe are under invasion by poorly educated, poor people from Third World shitholes.

The particulars differ, from nation to nation.

The citizens of the richer target nations are NOT racist for opposing said invasions. To the contrary, their ill-conceived "white guilt" plus Judeo-Christian generosity are among the reasons it has gone this far.


TThese invaders generally cost the "host" nations a great deal, in welfare, increased crime,  and in cultural problems due to non-assimilation.

So spare us, the "alt-right," and "racism" bullshit.

The citizens of each nation are entirely reasonable to expect their governments to enforce borders and immigration laws.

[dfwgator]

TThese invaders generally cost the "host" nations a great deal, in welfare, increased crime,  and in cultural problems due to non-assimilation.

So spare us, the "alt-right," and "racism" bullshit.

The citizens of each nation are entirely reasonable to expect their governments to enforce borders and immigration laws.

Exactly, the days of "Ellis Island" are long over.   The Left has figured out our Achilles Heel, and it's our immigration system.

[dfwgator]

Disingenuous.  Your family entered legally because it wasn't illegal to enter. No law had been written to exclude them.   

Because at the time the country was still expanding, you know, that little thing called "Manifest Destiny"?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Can you name one other country on this planet that does not enforce it's borders?

I'm all for enforcing the (I'll use the Trump spelling so you know I'm on your side) boarders against criminals, and terrorists...not janitors and farm laborers.

[dfwgator]

@Once-Ler

Can we at least agree that having open borders and a welfare state is the height of insanity?

And seeing as how nobody is really interested in dismantling the welfare state, then the only other option would be to drastically reform our immigration system, to the point of dissuading most people from coming here in the first place?

[dfwgator]

I'm all for enforcing the (I'll use the Trump spelling so you know I'm on your side) boarders against criminals, and terrorists...not janitors and farm laborers.

Oh, so you can magically tell the difference between a terrorist and a janitor?

[driftdiver]

Oh, so you can magically tell the difference between a terrorist and a janitor?

@dfwgator

Apparently illegals can only be janitors.  Now who is racist.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

WRONG.

Start with the 1924 Immigration Act to discover how incorrect such an statement is.

OK so from 1776-1924 is 148 years.  Add to the fact that the 1924 Immigration Act essentially was to restrict Asians and it brings us to 1965 and the Hart-Cellar Act.  When immigration was restricted by skills and family already residing in the USA.

For nearly 200 years you didn't need to speak English or know our civic duties.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@Once-Ler

Can we at least agree that having open borders and a welfare state is the height of insanity?

And seeing as how nobody is really interested in dismantling the welfare state, then the only other option would be to drastically reform our immigration system, to the point of dissuading most people from coming here in the first place?

Or letting in people who want to work, so we can focus on the people who should be excluded.

[Right_in_Virginia]

In Truth, the US and much of Europe are under invasion by poorly educated, poor people from Third World shitholes.

The particulars differ, from nation to nation.

The citizens of the richer target nations are NOT racist for opposing said invasions. To the contrary, their ill-conceived "white guilt" plus Judeo-Christian generosity are among the reasons it has gone this far.


TThese invaders generally cost the "host" nations a great deal, in welfare, increased crime,  and in cultural problems due to non-assimilation.

So spare us, the "alt-right," and "racism" bullshit.

The citizens of each nation are entirely reasonable to expect their governments to enforce borders and immigration laws.

THIS!   

[dfwgator]

Or letting in people who want to work, so we can focus on the people who should be excluded.

We have enough people already.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Levin Rips Laura Bush For Comments On Immigration: 'Shame On You'

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/levin-rips-laura-bush/

“It’s very simple if they really want to fix this issue of illegal aliens coming into this country with children,” Levin said.  “In some cases, it’s not their own children. In some cases, they have kidnapped the children. In some cases, they abuse the children. In some cases, the adults are criminals. In some cases, they have violated our immigration laws repeatedly and have been deported repeatedly.”

“It’s very simple,” he continues. “Secure the southern border. If an adult comes here with a child, put ‘em on a bus and send ‘em home! But no, suddenly the Democrats have an issue. We talked about this last week. I could smell it. I could see what they were doing. And the media, of course, are there to stoke the flames. The most outrageous statements were being made by so-called reporters and guests.”

He then puts former first lady Laura Bush in the crosshairs for her comparison of illegal immigrant detention centers and Japanese internment camps.