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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2018, 07:56:32 pm »
There aren't, and never were, any guarantees that the overtures towards North Korea would work.  That isn't a reason not to try.

We have some very smart, rather hawkish guys in key foreign policy positions -- Pompeo, Bolton, Mattis, Kelly.  If, after a reasonable period of time, it becomes clear that the Norks were just screwing with us all along, I have little doubt that Trump's tone and approach towards them will change significantly.  As I posted elsewhere, Trump bending over backwards in this effort actually makes military action more likely, because there will be no alternatives left to try if this effort fails.

But a week isn't a reasonable period of time to make that determination.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2018, 08:11:30 pm »
Gee, it's been what, five days?
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2018, 08:13:19 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on June 17, 2018, 07:56:32 pm
There aren't, and never were, any guarantees that the overtures towards North Korea would work.  That isn't a reason not to try.

We have some very smart, rather hawkish guys in key foreign policy positions -- Pompeo, Bolton, Mattis, Kelly.  If, after a reasonable period of time, it becomes clear that the Norks were just screwing with us all along, I have little doubt that Trump's tone and approach towards them will change significantly.  As I posted elsewhere, Trump bending over backwards in this effort actually makes military action more likely, because there will be no alternatives left to try if this effort fails.

But a week isn't a reasonable period of time to make that determination.

Of course.  Which is why it is pointless, or disingenuous, to sell that meeting as anything other than just that: a meeting, where the dogs sniff each others’ tails and decide if they’re going to stick around or not. 
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2018, 08:15:55 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on June 17, 2018, 08:11:30 pm
Gee, it's been what, five days?
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We all know Trump is God.  That being said, NK should be Nuke Free in 6 days so he can rest on the 7th and all us trumpeters can worship him.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2018, 08:30:31 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on June 17, 2018, 07:56:32 pm
There aren't, and never were, any guarantees that the overtures towards North Korea would work.  That isn't a reason not to try.

We have some very smart, rather hawkish guys in key foreign policy positions -- Pompeo, Bolton, Mattis, Kelly.  If, after a reasonable period of time, it becomes clear that the Norks were just screwing with us all along, I have little doubt that Trump's tone and approach towards them will change significantly.  As I posted elsewhere, Trump bending over backwards in this effort actually makes military action more likely, because there will be no alternatives left to try if this effort fails.

But a week isn't a reasonable period of time to make that determination.

And this is true.  But the consternation is over insistent declarations of victory and success in the face of media who are declaring it a disaster.  Both positions are abjectly stupid. 

That said, some things Trump has said about Lil' Kim are outright idiotic while the things most of his rabid fanbase are saying about this "victory" are even more ridiculous.

We should all have a strong knee-jerk negative reaction to anyone insisting that we are going to have 'peace in our time' when negotiating with despotic and totalitarian regimes and tyrants.  However, while that used to be standard for Conservatives when the Liberals were proclaiming it over their appeasements of the world's despots, today they engage in doing the same simply because of unyielding devotion to their man at 1600 Pennsylvania.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2018, 08:31:21 pm »
  Excuse Me, @Wingnut but it seems to have been an ol time Tent Revival since he left Singapore 5 days ago, here, more often than not.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2018, 08:35:09 pm »
Quote from: corbe on June 17, 2018, 08:31:21 pm
  Excuse Me, @Wingnut but it seems to have been an ol time Tent Revival since he left Singapore 5 days ago, here, more often than not.

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It's Trump, Brother 
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2018, 08:40:47 pm »
   I've heard about that Revival, My Mama wouldn't let me go.



   *incidentally that's the Black and Hispanic vote he's holding in his hands. 


    His Base is SAFE!

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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2018, 08:42:25 pm »
Quote from: corbe on June 17, 2018, 08:40:47 pm
   I've heard about that Revival, My Mama wouldn't let me go.



   *incidentally that's the Black and Hispanic vote he's holding in his hands. 


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Mama told you not to come.

Will you have whiskey with your water
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What are these crazy questions
That they're asking of me
This is the craziest party
That there ever could be
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 09:49:45 pm »
Come on...don't you realize it takes some time to plan the dismantling and relocation of such facilities?!
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2018, 10:22:34 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 17, 2018, 08:42:25 pm
Mama told you not to come.

Will you have whiskey with your water
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What are these crazy questions
That they're asking of me
This is the craziest party
That there ever could be
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'Cause I don't want to see

Do you know any songs about beating a straw horse? That'd sure be a hit at the NT sock hop.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2018, 10:28:10 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on June 17, 2018, 10:22:34 pm
Do you know any songs about beating a straw horse? That'd sure be a hit at the NT sock hop.

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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2018, 10:41:28 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on June 17, 2018, 06:54:52 pm
OK, I guess we are now taking the Communist North Korean's word for it.

Gotcha.


Sad that conservatives believe a Communist country..
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2018, 10:44:09 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 17, 2018, 08:35:09 pm
Everyone knows. Everyone goes.

H/T for the Neil Diamond Reference...
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2018, 10:45:12 pm »
   Here's one about a Man in a Long Orange Coat beating on a dead horse.

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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2018, 11:34:49 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on June 17, 2018, 10:22:34 pm
Do you know any songs about beating a straw horse? That'd sure be a hit at the NT sock hop.

Straw horse.. Straw Horse hmmmm.  Nope.   How about Stone Ponies.
Perfect song to describe an NT'er..
You and I travel to the beat of a diff'rent drum.
Oh, can't you tell by the way I run
Ev'ry time you make eyes at me. Wo oh.
You cry and you moan and say it will work out.
But honey child I've got my doubts.
You can't see the forest for the trees.



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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2018, 12:01:26 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on June 17, 2018, 10:41:28 pm

Sad that conservatives believe a Communist country..

It's not conservatives doing the believing; it's Trump supporters.
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2018, 01:06:38 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 17, 2018, 06:53:08 pm
Cough <bullshit>

You have something to prove the report is false?
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2018, 01:13:01 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 18, 2018, 01:06:38 pm
You have something to prove the report is false?

Yep.  The Nt'ers are pushing it. 
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Re: North Korea Isn't Dismantling Missile Facilities, Satellite Imagery Reveals
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2018, 01:20:22 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 18, 2018, 01:13:01 pm
Yep.  The Nt'ers are pushing it.

So you have no proof it's false...got it.

Do you realize how DU-esque that kind of response sounds?  Or do you even care at this point?
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