Author Topic: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case, sources say  (Read 2071 times)

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Offline Victoria33

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No, it's not.  More like judicial malpractice..... and when practiced on a national level (like trying to bring down a duly-elected sitting president).... it is the very definition of tyranny.
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This is what Trump did in his business.  He didn't pay numerous contractors on various projects, they had to sue him for their money; he kept them in court until they couldn't pay for it, and they gave it up; some had to go out of business because they did so much work building his buildings, they couldn't keep going without the money they were owed by Trump.  Some he offered pennies on the dollar, and they had to take it since they couldn't stay in court.

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Cohen is going to fall.  He would be stupid to take the rap all by himself.

What rap?

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Is there any question at this point that Mueller is conducting a witchhunt to try and bury President Trump?

Then why is anyone giving any credence to any of this? It’s simply a way for Mueller to keep the narrative going (“Trump probably stole the election and we’re hot on the trail”). It’s to continue stirring up doubt about Trump through the summer and fall until the midterms. That’s the ultimate goal here, not an indictment of Trump himself.

Republican losses, that’s all they’re hoping for.
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   Paying off a p0rn star for your client (POTUS) may be legal but it's certainly not ethical.
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Federal Southern District of New York.  Judge is Judge Kimba Wood.


Yes, that's the judge and venue.  However, I was curious as to who would be the authority to offer any potential deal for cooperation.
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Is there any question at this point that Mueller is conducting a witchhunt to try and bury President Trump?

Then why is anyone giving any credence to any of this? It’s simply a way for Mueller to keep the narrative going (“Trump probably stole the election and we’re hot on the trail”). It’s to continue stirring up doubt about Trump through the summer and fall until the midterms. That’s the ultimate goal here, not an indictment of Trump himself.

Republican losses, that’s all they’re hoping for.

As noted above, Mueller referred the Cohen case to the Southern District of New York who picked up the ball from him.
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Is there any question at this point that Mueller is conducting a witchhunt to try and bury President Trump?

Then why is anyone giving any credence to any of this? It’s simply a way for Mueller to keep the narrative going (“Trump probably stole the election and we’re hot on the trail”). It’s to continue stirring up doubt about Trump through the summer and fall until the midterms. That’s the ultimate goal here, not an indictment of Trump himself.

Republican losses, that’s all they’re hoping for.

Yes, actually, there is.

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Yes, that's the judge and venue.  However, I was curious as to who would be the authority to offer any potential deal for cooperation.
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It would likely be Prosecutor Robert Khuzami, deputy to Berman - read below part of article on April 10, 2018:

"The President Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney for the Southern District is recused from the investigation into the commander-in-chief's personal attorney, according to reports Tuesday."

Geoffrey Berman, personally interviewed by the President before being named as interim U.S. Attorney, was not involved in the decision to raid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's Manhattan workplace and hotel, sources told ABC News."

"Berman was previously a partner at the law firm where Trump's close ally Rudy Giuliani works and contributed to Trump's campaign."

"Berman selected his longtime friend and former federal prosecutor Robert Khuzami as his deputy in January. Khuzami would likely take over Berman's duties in such a situation."

"Rod Rosenstein, the veteran Department of Justice official handpicked by the President to serve as deputy attorney general, personally signed off on the raid, the New York Times reported on Monday."


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Is there any question at this point that Mueller is conducting a witchhunt to try and bury President Trump?

Then why is anyone giving any credence to any of this? It’s simply a way for Mueller to keep the narrative going (“Trump probably stole the election and we’re hot on the trail”). It’s to continue stirring up doubt about Trump through the summer and fall until the midterms. That’s the ultimate goal here, not an indictment of Trump himself.

Republican losses, that’s all they’re hoping for.


Why is this investigation a witch hunt?  Because Trump says it is? 

From where I sit it looks like Mueller is conducting a thorough investigation.  A thorough investigation takes months, maybe more than a year.  This is not some tv show where the investigation, arrest and trial are all wrapped up in less than an hour.  Would you  rather have a half-assed investigation like Hillary's?  I don't. 

This investigation is being conducted the way it should be.  Documents are being gathered and subpoenaed.  People who may be involved are being questioned.  Mueller will offer deals to anyone who may have done wrong in exchange for useful information.  There is nothing Mueller is doing that violates acceptable practice and procedure.

This investigation might wrap up sooner if all the players, including Trump, cooperated.  Trump says he committed no crime.  Fine.  So why is he stonewalling?   Seems to me if he did nothing wrong, he would want to cooperate.  That he spends his time bitching and moaning about Mueller instead makes me think he has something to hide. 

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Thanks.  He has a background at the SEC and in the world of finance.  He'd probably be able to sort through any complex transfers and laundering schemes.  What's really interesting is, from 2002-09, he was head of regulatory investigations and general counsel at Deutsche Bank.  Trump has received loans in the hundreds of millions over the years through them.  You'd have to wonder if Khuzami's former position may become an issue, at some point.
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@Victoria33   Thanks.  He has a background at the SEC and in the world of finance.  He'd probably be able to sort through any complex transfers and laundering schemes.  What's really interesting is, from 2002-09, he was head of regulatory investigations and general counsel at Deutsche Bank.  Trump has received loans in the hundreds of millions over the years through them.  You'd have to wonder if Khuzami's former position may become an issue, at some point.
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Sounds like Khuzami would be great for money/bank investigations.  As I was researching this to post to you, I kept reading Cohen will be/and Cohen thinks, he will be charged and arrested soon. This seems to be moving fast at this point.

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What will Cohen be charged with?

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What will Cohen be charged with?


There’s a ton of documentation and data to be sifted, so that’s still unknown.  The ones that have been mentioned as possibilities are bank fraud, campaign finance, wire fraud, money laundering, tax evasion, wiretapping, and extortion.
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I don't think he'll fall far because I suspect the President of the United States will be handing out pardons to his pals like candy on Halloween.


After doing a little research on this, I don't think a pardon would really bail Cohen out for a few reasons.


1)  He would still be subject to subpeona and the pardon would prevent him from invoking 5th Amendment rights.  If he lied, he'd be subject to perjury.

2)  Some potential charges, like bank fraud and tax evasion, could be prosecuted at the state level.  The pardon only covers federal crimes.

3)  The pardon doesn't negate the evidence gathered.  It can be shared with state authorities to prosecute him or be used by federal prosecutors to charge others implicated, but not pardoned.
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