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Re: Trump: 'I have the absolute right to pardon myself'
« Reply #200 on: July 10, 2018, 08:03:36 pm »
You just know that the nominate Justice is going to be asked about this during the hearing.

I hadn't thought about that, but you're probably correct.  If so, I certainly hope Kavanaugh gives a good answer.  The Trump team needs to be forewarned not to raise the disastrous issue of a Presidential self-pardon if push comes to shove between Trump and Mueller.

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Re: Trump: 'I have the absolute right to pardon myself'
« Reply #201 on: July 20, 2018, 03:31:34 am »
GREATLY AGREE. VERY WELL PUT. THANKS.

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DJT definitely has the "skillset" and objectives-oriented ingenuity of a con man (look at his Art of the Deal, for example).  That, in turn, could very well explain why you, like most Americans, haven't noticed what our inarguably bizarre and very, very shifty POTUS is actually doing. 

Trumps's first step is not to "lock her up."  It's not even his second or third step.  Remember:  Trump has also promised to drain the Swamp, not just "lock up crooked Hillary."  He will lock her up when he is ready to pull the plug on the entire Swamp, not just HRC's corner of it.

This means that the President first needs to purge the bad actors from the FBI--since the FBI guys are the ones who will have to execute most of the arrest warrants and organize the evidence against Swamp denizens.  (Firing a bunch of Deep State folks in a few Executive Branch agencies is by no means sufficient to "drain the Swamp."  Trump has to attack the filthy Swamp with a veritable flamethrower of prosecutions.)   

Next, President Trump has to re-take control of the DOJ (the department that obtains the indictments and prosecutes the defendants).  After that, he has to root out corrupt bureaucrats in the State Department and purge some really, really bad guys from the CIA--because the State Department and the CIA appear to have the worst of the worst International Swamp denizens.  (Yeah, the D.C. Swamp is actually just part of a Global Swamp.  I believe Trump correctly understands that the Swamp has to be drained globally, not just in America.  If he neglects the Global Socialist Cabal, the global filth will just quickly flow back in.)

(By the way, Trump's seemingly crude, undiplomatic policies and remarks to other countries have pissed off a lot of Heads of State, but Trump's rhetoric and deeds have manifestly emboldened the citizens of several countries to start draining their own parts of the Global Swamp.  Oppressed people all over the world are following American politics like never before in history. [Some pundits have predicted, by the way, that Merkel will be gone by November;  also, the EU [a political project that happens to be very precious to the Globalists] is beginning to unravel.) 

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Back to the domestic mess:  I submit that cleaning up the FBI, DOJ, State Department and CIA are just interim objectives.  Trump is quietly using his military intelligence team and a number of reliable federal prosecutors [with more public help from a few patriots in the Congress] to investigate all of the aforementioned agencies--but the round-up of seditious crooks will likely reach into every federal agency plus the Congress itself and the federal Court System and many if not most State governments as well.

(And yeah, the Sanctuary State(s) and Cities have to be crushed for their sheer rebellion against our Constitutional Republic;  also, rampant voting fraud has to be stopped at the level of the State and local governments.  The two crimes of illegal immigration and illegal voting are crucial to the Deep State's mechanism for continually feeding sewage into the Deep State Swamp. 

Furthermore, Trump still has to find a way to build the wall, even if he hasn't yet figured out how he is going to get it funded.  In one way or another, the active duty U.S. military is likely going to be used to enforce federal law [in California, at least, and not just on California's southern border].)

Draining the Swamp in a meaningful way will also require that our POTUS secure and organize damaging evidence of a massive and truly seditious conspiracy by the MSM, by Hollywood, and by crooked "crony capitalists" (who are actually Socialists, in the final analysis).  All of this legally actionable evidence seems to be coming together at this time (largely from the tedious work of Trump's military intelligence personnel, I am told).

What I am saying, in essence, is that Trump's challenge is orders of magnitude more difficult than his conservative but impatient detractors realize.  Trump has to juggle a zillion issues concurrently.  And I haven't even mentioned Trump's fight with the rogue prosecutor who is endlessly harassing Trump in a desperate attempt to thwart Trump's WAR against the Deep State.

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As it turns out, the Deep State's war against the United States started decades ago, but Trump's part in America's counteroffensive against the Deep State began in 2015, when top military personnel met secretly with him and persuaded him to run for President.  (Our military was appalled to see what they regarded as the impending collapse of the Republic.  Trump was likewise appalled at the scope of our necessary war against sedition and treason--which explains why he ran for office and, after winning the 2016 election, immediately appointed so many military men and women to his White House team.)   

When Anthony Weiner's laptop files came to light (well, barely came to light), Hillary Clinton definitely became the prime candidate for prosecution (in spite of the crooked FBI's exoneration of HRC).  Trump could have her indicted and arrested at any time;  this goes without saying.   

Unbeknownst to the public, however, the laptop files reportedly revealed almost unfathomably vicious, sordid corruption throughout the politics and high society of the United States in a way that linked America's vicious and powerful crooks to vicious and powerful crooks all over the world.  The corruption was so pervasive and so filthy that an anonymous leaker, supposedly an FBI agent, started up a Dark Website a couple of years ago, on which website he warned that the revelations from the laptop were so damning and so widespread in scope (throughout America and the world) and so hideous (involving damning evidence of murderous pedophilia) that he feared that any immediate release of the files on the laptop could start a full-fledged civil war in America--likely collapsing our entire government--and might even start a third World War.

At least one high-level official in the NYPD has corroborated the leaker's report of the heinousness of the criminality revealed on the laptop, especially the video files Weiner kept in his "Insurance Folder."  Two of the NYPD detectives who reportedly had to watch the videos before the laptop was turned over to the FBI have since been murdered in ambush situations.   

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The preservation of America's national sanity likely depends on a carefully controlled release of the amazing and awful details of an ENORMOUS network of corruption in practically every aspect of American life.  This controlled-release approach has been called "the red-pilling of America."  The public simply can't swallow all of the toxic stuff all at once.  Unfortunately, this means that the public is not ready for HRC to be arrested.  Why?  Because as soon as Hillary Clinton is prosecuted, practically the whole, ungodly mess of today's world and today's America will explode into the light.

When President Trump deems that the time is right, Hillary will be subjected to a military arrest for a litany of crimes against humanity and against the Republic.  These will include capital crimes, including sedition and treason.  Obama himself will likely be arrested in the same time frame.  And there will be tens of thousands of other federal prosecutions.  The number of federal indictments formed and sealed between November 1, 2017, and today is over 35,000.  This is the highest number in American history--in, fact, about fifty times higher than the normal rate of sealed federal indictments filed in our court system.  The flamethrower of prosecutions will be the biggest in American history--and probably the biggest ever in a true democracy.  The Nuremburg trials will seem puny by comparison. 

Thus it would appear that Jeff Sessions has been very, very busy.  (A lot of Trump's complaints about Sessions have likely been "political theater," the director of which production would surely be the Con-Man-in-Chief.)   

Anyway, Hillary Clinton knows what's happening.  So does Obama.  This is why they have pulled out all stops to take down Trump.  Remember:  Hillary herself is reported to have said "If that [bleep] wins the election, we will all hang by nooses!"

(Notice that she said "all."  She was talking about her entire conspiratorial network.  Notice also that she didn't merely say "We will all hang," but rather "hang by nooses."  The idea of hanging could be taken as a metaphor for just being in terrible trouble.  But she was talking about capital punishment.  [Well, I don't believe that our military uses hanging anymore, but I will charitably give her credit for having the right overall idea.]) 

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Re: Trump: 'I have the absolute right to pardon myself'
« Reply #202 on: July 20, 2018, 05:34:17 am »
I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt..

If you check my posts you will find I am a proud NT who believes Trump is not only a grifter but a cynically evil half wit whose intent is to destroy the Republic. I often say who knew the anti-Christ would have orange hair...

You will know if they start requiring Trump Temple Tax.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.