Sally Field: Sam Bee’s Ivanka Insult Was Wrong Because ‘C*nts Are Powerful, Beautiful’

[mountaineer]

You were saying?

I have no interest in exploring the truth or falsity of that allegation. 

[driftdiver]

The concept of "bad" words has always been odd to me.  It's just a word, it has no power other than whatever power people give it.  If you want to talk about bad *sounding* words then we should discuss 'onomatopoeia'.

@RoosGirl
IMO the C word has a negative connotation because of the kind of woman it represents.   e.g. a woman of loose morals and low integrity

[RoosGirl]

@RoosGirl
IMO the C word has a negative connotation because of the kind of woman it represents.   e.g. a woman of loose morals and low integrity

My awesome sense of humor is wasted on you people.

[driftdiver]

My awesome sense of humor is wasted on you people.

@RoosGirl
If you use words of more than two syla bels you will lose me just like telling me to read the artcile.

That or reference words that give me flashbacks to gradeschool.

[XenaLee]

Sally Field: Sam Bee’s Ivanka Insult Was Wrong Because ‘C*nts Are Powerful, Beautiful’

by JOSHUA CAPLAN
31 May 2018




Actress Sally Field chimed in on comedian Samantha Bee’s profane comments about Ivanka Trump Thursday, declaring that the President’s eldest daughter is beneath being called a “c*nt.”
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/05/31/sally-field/

She has officially gone 'off the rails' here by attempting to make the use of the "C" word ok.  She is declaring herself a card-carrying leftie here by redefining what most of us consider to be the worst thing you could call a woman.

That's a shame.   Sally Fields was always one of my favorites in Hollyweird.  Things change.  Another one to add to my ever-growing list of Hollyweirdo leftists.

[skeeter]

The concept of "bad" words has always been odd to me.  It's just a word, it has no power other than whatever power people give it.  If you want to talk about bad *sounding* words then we should discuss 'onomatopoeia'.

Ugh.

[driftdiver]

Ugh.

@skeeter
I see what you did there. 

Nice job

[RoosGirl]

Ugh.

 

[Millee]

She has officially gone 'off the rails' here by attempting to make the use of the "C" word ok.  She is declaring herself a card-carrying leftie here by redefining what most of us consider to be the worst thing you could call a woman.

That's a shame.   Sally Fields was always one of my favorites in Hollyweird.  Things change.  Another one to add to my ever-growing list of Hollyweirdo leftists.

I hate that word, it's vile.

I've come to the conclusion that Hollyweird folk are the epitome of putting lipstick on pigs. 

[goodwithagun]

Why is the "c" word worse than the "p" word that refers to the same body part?

I'm sure those that defended Trump's "p" comment would have heartily denounced him, as they've done with Sally, had he used the "c" word instead. /sarc

[mountaineer]

I wouldn't defend anyone's use of vulgar terms to describe female body parts. It's gross and classless no matter whether the speaker is male or female.

What puzzles me (as a woman) is why so many women seem proud of using crude, belittling language toward other women. Guess there's no real feminism in Hollywood, after all.

[Sighlass]

@RoosGirl
IMO the C word has a negative connotation because of the kind of woman it represents.   e.g. a woman of loose morals and low integrity

Yep, the word takes something beautiful that God created meant to be shared in bonds of marriage and lowers it to prostitution levels. It is a gutter word that I avoid like other words that have no place in polite company.

[Sighlass]

I wouldn't defend anyone's use of vulgar terms to describe female body parts. It's gross and classless no matter whether the speaker is male or female.

What puzzles me (as a woman) is why so many women seem proud of using crude, belittling language toward other women. Guess there's no real feminism in Hollywood, after all.

Agreed

[Meldrew]

So now that we're normalizing the C word (which I was always told was the absolute most heinous word to use about or in front of a woman) are we at the bottom of the "coarsening the culture" curve?  Any chance we can head toward the time when public profanity is rare, only occasionally used for effect? 

[dfwgator]

[Frank Cannon]

Being the moral compass of TBR, I find this whole discussion unseemly and in poor taste.

[corbe]

  As is often the case the British interpretation of American Culture leaves much to be desired for.

   (ALL *'s are mine~corbe)


Samantha Bee proves there's still one word you can't say in America

The C-word has been used from Chaucer to Trainspotting, but this week has shown for Americans it’s still the ultimate taboo

Arwa Mahdawi

Fri 1 Jun 2018 17.17 EDT  Last modified on Fri 1 Jun 2018 17.22 EDT 
 
Samantha Bee apologised for calling Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt” on her television show. Amid widespread backlash, State Farm and Autotrader have suspended ads from Bee’s TBS show. On Friday, Donald Trump called on ABC to fire the comedian “for the horrible language used on her low-ratings show”.

Aside from the debate over whether Bee was wrong to use the word to describe the first daughter, it’s worth asking why the C-word is considered to be the ultimate expression of “horrible language”. Particularly in America, a country which elected a man president after he boasted about grabbing women “by the pu**y”, is the word “c*unt” so terribly shocking?

The word is notably more offensive in the US than it is in the UK. While still not common parlance in Britain, it is used far more frequently, in pop culture and casual conversation, than it is across the Atlantic. In Australia, they’re even more relaxed about it. In Australia it’s not strictly a term of opprobrium, but can be neutral or even positive. Calling someone a “good c*nt” means they’re a decent person.

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/01/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-c-word-america

[RoosGirl]

  As is often the case the British interpretation of American Culture leaves much to be desired for.

   (ALL *'s are mine~corbe)


Samantha Bee proves there's still one word you can't say in America

The C-word has been used from Chaucer to Trainspotting, but this week has shown for Americans it’s still the ultimate taboo

Arwa Mahdawi

Fri 1 Jun 2018 17.17 EDT  Last modified on Fri 1 Jun 2018 17.22 EDT 
 
Samantha Bee apologised for calling Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt” on her television show. Amid widespread backlash, State Farm and Autotrader have suspended ads from Bee’s TBS show. On Friday, Donald Trump called on ABC to fire the comedian “for the horrible language used on her low-ratings show”.

Aside from the debate over whether Bee was wrong to use the word to describe the first daughter, it’s worth asking why the C-word is considered to be the ultimate expression of “horrible language”. Particularly in America, a country which elected a man president after he boasted about grabbing women “by the pu**y”, is the word “c*unt” so terribly shocking?

The word is notably more offensive in the US than it is in the UK. While still not common parlance in Britain, it is used far more frequently, in pop culture and casual conversation, than it is across the Atlantic. In Australia, they’re even more relaxed about it. In Australia it’s not strictly a term of opprobrium, but can be neutral or even positive. Calling someone a “good c*nt” means they’re a decent person.

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/01/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-c-word-america

The author makes the same observation I did; it's hard to condemn someone for calling Ivanka a  c*** when her daddy talked about grabbing pu**y and his supporters wore t-shirts to rallies advertising that it was okay.  It's also hard to condemn someone for calling Ivanka feckless when we have examples such as:

[Right_in_Virginia]

The author makes the same observation I did; it's hard to condemn someone for calling Ivanka a  c*** when her daddy talked about grabbing pu**y and his supporters wore t-shirts to rallies advertising that it was okay. 

Really?  How does something her father said or his supporters dismissed justify calling Ivanka a c*nt? 

[corbe]

   Your just pizzed cause it's Ivanka, @Right_in_Virginia
   I'd suspect you'd have no problem if someone called Malia a c*nt.

[Right_in_Virginia]

   Your just pizzed cause it's Ivanka, @Right_in_Virginia
   I'd suspect you'd have no problem if someone called Malia a c*nt.

You know nothing @corbe   I'd be just as furious if Malia -- or any woman -- was call a c*nt without consequences.

Don't "suspect" or assume when it comes to what I am thinking.  It insults us both.

[corbe]

You know nothing @corbe   I'd be just as furious if Malia -- or any woman -- was call a c*nt without consequences.

Don't "suspect" or assume when it comes to what I am thinking.  It insults us both.

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[RoosGirl]

Really?  How does something her father said or his supporters dismissed justify calling Ivanka a c*nt?

No one ever said she was "justified" for calling Ivanka a c***.  Read the actual words, don't make ones up that aren't there.

[Right_in_Virginia]

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[Right_in_Virginia]

No one ever said she was "justified" for calling Ivanka a c***.  Read the actual words, don't make ones up that aren't there.

You're splitting hairs.  "It's hard to condemn" is the coward's way of saying "justifies".