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[Sanguine]

FFS Making the general claim that women are stronger or as strong as men, making the claim that women have as much or more stamina than men is just plain false.  There are outliers in every situation, however, no one here ever said that all men are stronger, etc than all women.  No one here is stupid enough to believe that.  Making the general claim is just plain false and it is supported by a plethora of data including the website I linked, regardless of whether those races are in the mountains, on the beach, on a track or on a road.

So, is the corollary also false: men are stronger or as strong as women?

[musiclady]

FFS Making the general claim that women are stronger or as strong as men, making the claim that women have as much or more stamina than men is just plain false.  There are outliers in every situation, however, no one here ever said that all men are stronger, etc than all women.  No one here is stupid enough to believe that.  Making the general claim is just plain false and it is supported by a plethora of data including the website I linked, regardless of whether those races are in the mountains, on the beach, on a track or on a road.

If it makes you feel better to blow your stack at the information I provided, more power to you.

btw, I wasn't claiming that men or women are stronger or have more stamina than the other.

In fact, I specifically stated that women as a rule are slower and that body fat doesn't translate into better times.  I'm just adding relevant details to the conversation.  If you want to rant and rave that women can't do things, go for it.

I'm just discussing the issue.  If you wanna fight, you'll have to find someone else.

btw, you could have said "Good job!" to my son for running 100k in the mountains and coming in 9th in 14 hours or to the woman who beat him, if you wanted to be polite.  ^-^ 

[RoosGirl]

So, is the corollary also false: men are stronger or as strong as women?

They can't both be false, speaking in general terms of course.

[Sanguine]

They can't both be false, speaking in general terms of course.

Of course they can!

OK, I'm done.  No more, please!

[RoosGirl]

Of course they can!

OK, I'm done.  No more, please!

If you're only talking men or women, and which one is stronger, the answer can't be 'no'. 

[Sanguine]

If you're only talking men or women, and which one is stronger, the answer can't be 'no'. 

There's always equal.

[RoosGirl]

If it makes you feel better to blow your stack at the information I provided, more power to you.

btw, I wasn't claiming that men or women are stronger or have more stamina than the other.

In fact, I specifically stated that women as a rule are slower and that body fat doesn't translate into better times.  I'm just adding relevant details to the conversation.  If you want to rant and rave that women can't do things, go for it.

I'm just discussing the issue.  If you wanna fight, you'll have to find someone else.

btw, you could have said "Good job!" to my son for running 100k in the mountains and coming in 9th in 14 hours or to the woman who beat him, if you wanted to be polite.  ^-^

Thanks again for another off-topic lecture.

[RoosGirl]

There's always equal.

Wasn't that included in "as strong as" ?

[Sanguine]

Wasn't that included in "as strong as" ?

 

[musiclady]

Thanks again for another off-topic lecture.

You're welcome.

It was what was required in response to your off-topic temper tantrum. 

[RoosGirl]

 

 

Are you trying to sell us that in general men are equal in strength to women?  Show me the data and I'll believe it, otherwise no way.

Let's all look at pretty pictures and be thankful.  Isn't this a beautiful kilt?

[RoosGirl]

You're welcome.

It was what was required in response to your off-topic temper tantrum. 

A discussion is not a temper tantrum.

[Sanguine]

Are you trying to sell us that in general men are equal in strength to women?  Show me the data and I'll believe it, otherwise no way.

Let's all look at pretty pictures and be thankful.  Isn't this a beautiful kilt?

Kilt?

[RoosGirl]

Kilt?

Clearly.

[WingNot]

:sadnana:




This discussion is resulting in So many samitches not being made.  So sad.   

[musiclady]

A discussion is not a temper tantrum.

I'm glad that's what you think you were doing.

Have a lovely evening, Roos.

Some day we'll discuss this issue again when you're feeling better.

Meanwhile, perhaps you can re-read my actual words and rethink your angry response to what shouldn't have made anyone angry.  You said you may have misread the data in your post and I provided more data, with a specific example, citing no generalizations about women being better than men.

This is the bottom line.  Most men run faster than most women.  Some women run faster than most men.  And everyone on earth, man or woman, runs faster than I do.   ^-^

Again........ have a lovely evening.

[driftdiver]

:sadnana:




This discussion is resulting in So many samitches not being made.  So sad.

Not to worry the sammiches are shit anyway

[driftdiver]

There's always equal.

@Sanguine

Fine open your own damn door.

[roamer_1]

There's always equal.

No.
Not equal.
Different, and measured by wholly different standards.

But have it your way.
And when we meet in anger, we will fight, and I will crush you like I would any man.
And don't expect protection in your troubles. Protect yourself, like any man.
And don't expect deference - I defer to no man.

Don't expect the tipped hat in greeting.
Don't expect an offered arm on an icy walk.
Tote your own crap, as any man would do.
Load your own truck, as any man would do.
Fix your own car on the side of the road, as any man would do.

I am honor bound to defer to you in order to help you along... In order to make it 'equal'.
You can't have it both ways.

And women wonder what happened to genteel society.

[WingNot]

No.
Not equal.
Different, and measured by wholly different standards.

But have it your way.
And when we meet in anger, we will fight, and I will crush you like I would any man.
And don't expect protection in your troubles. Protect yourself, like any man.
And don't expect deference - I defer to no man.

Don't expect the tipped hat in greeting.
Don't expect an offered arm on an icy walk.
Tote your own crap, as any man would do.
Load your own truck, as any man would do.
Fix your own car on the side of the road, as any man would do.

I am honor bound to defer to you in order to help you along... In order to make it 'equal'.
You can't have it both ways.

And women wonder what happened to genteel society.

GFT!

Some still get it.  Far and far fewer don't. 

[Sanguine]

I didn't say the same - I said equal.  Y'all really want to argue that one?

(And, I was joking when I wrote it, but now I'm not.)

[RoosGirl]

I'm glad that's what you think you were doing.

Have a lovely evening, Roos.

Some day we'll discuss this issue again when you're feeling better.

Meanwhile, perhaps you can re-read my actual words and rethink your angry response to what shouldn't have made anyone angry.  You said you may have misread the data in your post and I provided more data, with a specific example, citing no generalizations about women being better than men.

This is the bottom line.  Most men run faster than most women.  Some women run faster than most men.  And everyone on earth, man or woman, runs faster than I do.   ^-^

Again........ have a lovely evening.

You're reading tone that isn't there.  I really don't know why you're carrying on.

[RoosGirl]

I didn't say the same - I said equal.  Y'all really want to argue that one?

(And, I was joking when I wrote it, but now I'm not.)

Here's another kilt.  You may notice it's a different color than the first.

[roamer_1]

I didn't say the same - I said equal.  Y'all really want to argue that one?

(And, I was joking when I wrote it, but now I'm not.)

I will argue it till the day I die.
Men and women are not equal.
They are DIFFERENT. 
You can't measure em by the same standard.

Men are not equal among men. They are judged by merit, won in competition or in battle.
You are welcome to that same standard - to take the place you can carve out in the male hierarchy, and then try to keep it...

But a lady, standing in her honor, can dress down this ol boy, up one side and down the other, and have him hat-in-hand and digging a toe in the dirt.

A man would just get punched in the face.

Be careful what you wish for.

[corbe]

   Proves once again @RoosGirl that you women just want to further destroy our masculinity by saying we look really well in SKIRTS..  It's BS!