This Is Why We Will Never Register Our Guns Or Cooperate With Government Mandates

[skeeter]

I told one of these guys last night I wasn't going to argue with him.  He told me to STFU....

I guess even I didn't understand my own words.

 

[Axeslinger]

The 2A is notorious for not being written in plain English.

@Jazzhead
Hey Jazz...bite me you wannabe tyrant.   Have you worked up the stones to volunteer to go on your no knock raids yet?  If not, STFU and go haunt another thread without spewing your statist drivel.

[Axeslinger]

Yes, and that's a disgrace.  There are folks here who boast not only that they won't obey the law, but that they'll go so far as to kill peace officers who are tasked with enforcing the law.   

I despise this F*ck-the-Community attitude.

@Jazzhead
And we despise your statist ass...so there’s that.

[INVAR]

If the Peoples' elected representatives decide to require Constitutionally-permissible firearms registration, then respect for the nation, IMO, morally obligates you and me to comply.

Wrong.

At that point your government will have totally nullified what little moral authority it has left, having made itself a despotic tyranny attempting to impose itself upon what remains of a free people.  We don't care if your elected reps decide to do what they did to shove ObamaCare on the country and declare it 'legal'.  In fact, we don't care if 90% of the country votes to become Communist and demands we abolish speech, religion, press and arms.  At the point any of that happens, we no longer consent to be governed by such a system.

It will at that time, become our sole duty to refuse and resist compliance by every and all means at our disposal.

The radical Leftists that put Obama into power estimated back in 1980 that 30 million Americans would refuse to go along with their plans and would have to be exterminated - as in killed and dumped in mass graves.

How many of us are you willing to kill to see your utopian vision of gun registration and confiscation realized?

You better count the cost - because when you get your wish - we got nothing left to lose and you will have rued the day you ever put this stupid notion of yours into the public eye.

[verga]

Folks it is real easy, jut Add Jazzhead tot he "ignore" list. Life is much more pleasant that way.

[Axeslinger]

Folks it is real easy, jut Add Jazzhead tot he "ignore" list. Life is much more pleasant that way.

No.   Then he gets to spout his bullshit unchallenged. That will not stand.

[Jazzhead]

No.   Then he gets to spout his bullshit unchallenged. That will not stand.

Saying " bite me" is your idea of a challenge? 

[Axeslinger]

Saying " bite me" is your idea of a challenge?

@Jazzhead

At this point yes, because you’ve proven yourself too damn stupid or too damn intellectually dishonest to have a conversation with.  You come into EVERY 2A thread there is and spout the same bullshit over and over and over and over.  And this despite your bulkshit being debunked over and over and over.   So go sell it on DU.   But here?  Bite me.  Until you agree to volunteer to put your own ass on the line taking people’s guns who won’t comply with your bullshit, you deserve and will receive the respect due a tyrant:  NONE

[driftdiver]

Saying " bite me" is your idea of a challenge?

@Jazzhead

I'd say your constant repetition of the gun control talking points lack the depth of 'bite me'.

Gun control doesn't work.  Everywhere its tried has increased violence and crime.  But you refuse to even address those facts.

But then it's not really about the children or safety.  It's about control.

[INVAR]

Folks it is real easy, jut Add Jazzhead tot he "ignore" list. Life is much more pleasant that way.

He provides this board a solid by offering himself up as our resident Leftist kickbag, Gojo mat and paper target.

It is good he offers himself up for sparring and combat practice because he provides us all the talking points and directional argumentation that the radical Leftists are intending to project upon lesser informed peoples so as to prey upon their ignorance with emotional-sounding rhetoric to garner their desired utopia.

[bigheadfred]

The Constitution is words on a page.

It is the mindset. The thought process. The spirituality (that uplifting freedom embodiment). That put those words on the page...

Put into action.

That is ALL that matters.

The people who put those words on the page weren't emigrants.

They were refugees.

Who made a stand.

I stand with them.

[austingirl]

And for those morons who would try and convince us that registration of our guns will NOT lead to confiscations and the wholesale banning of our right to possess them - all one needs to do is listen to what those in GOVERNMENT tell us that they intend to do:

A Democratic congressman “went there” Thursday.

In an editorial in USA Today, Rep. Eric Swalwell proposed a mandatory buyback of all “military-style semiautomatic assault weapons” without any “grandfather clause” for existing weapons or any deference to the Second Amendment — the sort of forced-confiscation plan that gun-rights advocates have warned about and gun-controllers have hotly denied they seek.

The California Democrat called reinstating the federal assault-weapons ban from the 1990s a good beginning, “but it would not affect weapons already possessed.”

“Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons,” Mr. Swalwell said.

Swalwell is a puke. 

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

The Constitution is words on a page.

It is the mindset. The thought process. The spirituality (that uplifting freedom embodiment). That put those words on the page...

Put into action.

That is ALL that matters.

The people who put those words on the page weren't emigrants.

They were refugees.

Who made a stand.

I stand with them.

Thanks Fred.

[Jazzhead]

It is good he offers himself up for sparring and combat practice because he provides us all the talking points and directional argumentation that the radical Leftists are intending to project upon lesser informed peoples so as to prey upon their ignorance with emotional-sounding rhetoric to garner their desired utopia.

Are you at all capable of self-criticism?   Listen to yourself - you claim to refute my arguments by beating your chest in masturbatory bloodlust.   You aren't posting arguments, you're writing resistance porn.   Just wait 'til I "come after you" - you'll shoot me dead.   And I'm a coward because I won't come after your guns so you can water your tree. 

Go ahead and water your tree, out here on a public discussion board so all can see how nucking futs you are     

[RoosGirl]

Are you at all capable of self-criticism?   Listen to yourself - you claim to refute my arguments by beating your chest in masturbatory bloodlust.   You aren't posting arguments, you're writing resistance porn.   Just wait 'til I "come after you" - you'll shoot me dead.   And I'm a coward because I won't come after your guns so you can water your tree. 

Go ahead and water your tree, out here on a public discussion board so all can see how nucking futs you are   

You're really in a masturbatory mood today.

[INVAR]

Are you at all capable of self-criticism?

Not to you. 

Just wait 'til I "come after you" - you'll shoot me dead.   

Good.  You showcase that you are able to comprehend the concept of consequences.   Heed them.

Or not.

At minimum you have been warned.

And I'm a coward because I won't come after your guns so you can water your tree.

You have already admitted your cowardice elsewhere when you affirmed your desire to send out agents of the state to confiscate guns, in whom you said you pray riddle me with bullet holes so they can go home 'safe' to their families at night.

The fact you are a coward is already known.

Go ahead and water your tree, out here on a public discussion board so all can see how nucking futs you are   

And here I thought you understood the concept of consequences.

Apparently not.

[Sighlass]

New is pretty, but nearly all suppressors work even better with some fluid.  I know several that normally dump water in the factory-made type then dump out before using.  Those droplets absorb more sound than straight air/metal.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/06-What-is-a-WetDry-suppressor_df_40.html

 

Thanks, your post made the thread worth reading so far. Interesting info there. @thackney

SHTF hypothetical question....I was wondering if you used a light (clean) oil in said oil filter, would it increase likelihood of a fire at the end of the muzzle? Again hypothetical question only of course. Article mentioned something about possibility of being explosive.

[Sighlass]

Read what I wrote.  I said "Constitutionally permissible firearms registration".   

Odd, the right to defend oneself comes from God, the Constitution only reaffirms that it will not infringe on that right. I will not give in to a government attempt to curtail a gift from God.

[thackney]

 

Thanks, your post made the thread worth reading so far. Interesting info there. @thackney

SHTF hypothetical question....I was wondering if you used a light (clean) oil in said oil filter, would it increase likelihood of a fire at the end of the muzzle? Again hypothetical question only of course. Article mentioned something about possibility of being explosive.

Most oils are hard to ignite.  You won't ignite motor oil by touching it with a match for a second.

But if you keep firing it with a suppressor, that suppressor is going to get hot.  Water helps as it evaporates with the heat, cooling the suppressor (a little, it is still heating up).  The oil would eventually ignite if used over and over without cooling back down.

So first shot, okay.  10 shots in 10 seconds, maybe okay?  50 shots in under a minute - Oh look! My gun is a flame thrower!

[Jazzhead]

Odd, the right to defend oneself comes from God, the Constitution only reaffirms that it will not infringe on that right. I will not give in to a government attempt to curtail a gift from God.

Straw man.  Your natural right to defend yourself and your home isn't at stake or at issue here.   What you don't necessarily have a right to do is buy guns off the back of trucks in undocumented transactions, or amass arsenals in secret.   Registration serves a similar purpose for guns as it does for cars -  to assign a gun to its lawful owner for liability purposes,  and to provide a basis for documented transfers and dispositions.

Like you, I oppose laws that limit the number or kind of guns you can own.   I understand it's your hobby,  and that's fine.   But it is entirely reasonable to require that you register your ownership and buy and sell your guns on the up-and-up.

You have the right to defend yourself.  And the community has the right to protect itself from an unregulated market in guns.   And you do NOT have the right to be a law unto yourself, and to pick and choose which of the community's laws you will ignore.     

[thackney]

And you do NOT have the right to be a law unto yourself, and to pick and choose which of the community's laws you will ignore.   

And an oppressive government, as viewed by a significant enough size of its population, will eventually fail.

Gun Registration has been failing in liberal New York, California and Canada (well, already failed in Canada, they gave up).

To ignore reality of the general population of this topic is very foolish.  This would have stronger push-back than Prohibition.

[driftdiver]

You have the right to defend yourself.  And the community has the right to protect itself from an unregulated market in guns.   And you do NOT have the right to be a law unto yourself, and to pick and choose which of the community's laws you will ignore.   

@Jazzhead
Firearms are one of these most regulated products available in the marketplace.

Does Occupy, BLM, or Antifa have the right to be a law unto itself?   I've never seen you speak out against them.

[driftdiver]

Most oils are hard to ignite.  You won't ignite motor oil by touching it with a match for a second.

But if you keep firing it with a suppressor, that suppressor is going to get hot.  Water helps as it evaporates with the heat, cooling the suppressor (a little, it is still heating up).  The oil would eventually ignite if used over and over without cooling back down.

So first shot, okay.  10 shots in 10 seconds, maybe okay?  50 shots in under a minute - Oh look! My gun is a flame thrower!

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[Jazzhead]

This would have stronger push-back than Prohibition.

That's preposterous.  Prohibition banned the sale of alcohol.  Firearms registration doesn't affect your ability to own a gun - only that you take responsibility for it. 

[RoosGirl]

Firearms registration doesn't affect your ability to own a gun - only that you take responsibility for it.

No matter how many times you say it, it's still not true.