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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2018, 04:01:15 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 23, 2018, 03:51:25 am
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This is a red-letter day!  It took a grammatical error from one of the self-certified geniuses to get you guys to join me in a single opinion!  A great day to be an American.   888high58888

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Strange.  It felt very comfortable replying to @musiclady. 

Like the old days...as long as the subject isn't President Trump.   

...just noticed it's been nine years!!   :thud:   

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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2018, 01:48:37 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 23, 2018, 04:01:15 am
Strange.  It felt very comfortable replying to @musiclady. 

Like the old days...as long as the subject isn't President Trump.   

...just noticed it's been nine years!!   :thud:

We have a lot of things we have agree on.

Let's keep this up, OK?   :beer:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2018, 01:51:52 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 23, 2018, 04:01:15 am
Strange.  It felt very comfortable replying to @musiclady. 

Like the old days...as long as the subject isn't President Trump.   

...just noticed it's been nine years!!   :thud:

For some it is a grammar mistake, for others it takes a Myocardial infarction to bring us around and see what really matters.    :smokin:
Although DC doesn't recommend it.   :smokin:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2018, 02:20:47 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 23, 2018, 01:48:37 pm
We have a lot of things we have agree on.

Let's keep this up, OK?   :beer:


Shouldn't be a problem.


...as long as you agree with me.    :laugh:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2018, 03:36:44 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 23, 2018, 02:20:47 pm

Shouldn't be a problem.


...as long as you agree with me.    :laugh:

Hehe...............  well, I could agree with you.................. but then we'd both be wrong.  :dx1:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2018, 03:46:32 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 23, 2018, 03:36:44 pm
Hehe...............  well, I could agree with you.................. but then we'd both be wrong.  :dx1:

We could always hijack this thread to talk about the War of Northern Aggression.
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2018, 03:52:16 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on May 23, 2018, 03:46:32 pm
We could always hijack this thread to talk about the War of Northern Aggression.

I'm from Ohio.

I learned not to get into discussions about THAT war long ago.   

(We're one nation, under God now, methinks.  :patriot:)
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2018, 04:51:37 pm »
I can't believe we've had that many posts about grammar.  Oh, well, if it keeps us out of the pool hall.

Here's a grammatical error that I can forgive:

"To boldly go where no man has gone before."
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2018, 04:55:34 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 23, 2018, 04:51:37 pm
I can't believe we've had that many posts about grammar.  Oh, well, if it keeps us out of the pool hall.

Here's a grammatical error that I can forgive:

"To boldly go where no man has gone before."

To boldly go where before no man has gone???   :dx1:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2018, 05:02:46 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 23, 2018, 04:55:34 pm
To boldly go where before no man has gone???   :dx1:

The problem is a split infinitive.  Nowadays a split infinitive is not always regarded as a grammatical error (probably inasmuch as it has become so common), but at the very least, the split infinitive should be regarded as a style blunder.

"To go boldly" would be better than "to boldly go."
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2018, 05:04:34 pm »
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2018, 05:18:28 pm »
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The problem is a split infinitive.  Nowadays a split infinitive is not always regarded as a grammatical error (probably inasmuch as it has become so common), but at the very least, the split infinitive should be regarded as a style blunder.

"To go boldly" would be better than "to boldly go."

Yes, it is a split infinitive but so much more effective than 'to go boldly.'  Plus, everyone missed the main problem which was corrected in the later Star Trek spinoffs.  It is the word, 'man.'
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2018, 05:25:25 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on May 23, 2018, 05:02:46 pm
The problem is a split infinitive.  Nowadays a split infinitive is not always regarded as a grammatical error (probably inasmuch as it has become so common), but at the very least, the split infinitive should be regarded as a style blunder.

"To go boldly" would be better than "to boldly go."

But boldly is emphasized because it comes first, so I'm sure that was quite intentional.

My point, even as a stickler for grammar, is that some things should probably be left untouched.

(Note to self: when writing proper English, one does not begin a sentence with "but".  ^-^)
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2018, 05:26:12 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 23, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Yes, it is a split infinitive but so much more effective than 'to go boldly.'  Plus, everyone missed the main problem which was corrected in the later Star Trek spinoffs.  It is the word, 'man.'

Did they change it to "no one?"
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2018, 05:41:37 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 23, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Yes, it is a split infinitive but so much more effective than 'to go boldly.'  Plus, everyone missed the main problem which was corrected in the later Star Trek spinoffs.  It is the word, 'man.'

As a male of the species, I had no problem with "Man" in that quote.   :shrug:
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2018, 05:42:28 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 23, 2018, 05:26:12 pm
Did they change it to "no one?"

The first of many flashes of PC that came with that show.
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2018, 05:46:28 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 23, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Yes, it is a split infinitive but so much more effective than 'to go boldly.'  Plus, everyone missed the main problem which was corrected in the later Star Trek spinoffs.  It is the word, 'man.'

"To boldly go" has a nice iambic quality, but I believe that with the right man (person?) doing the voice-over at the opening of the show, "To go boldly" would be pretty cool, too.   As with all fine literature, much depends on the fellow (human?) doing the reading aloud.
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2018, 05:58:49 pm »
"If it was proven that the president used the powers of the United States government to cover-up his own criminality or to cover-up the way in which he cooperated with Moscow in order to win the presidency, that may or may not qualify as an ordinary federal crime, but it’s certainly an impeachable offense," Tribe told co-anchor Chris Cuomo.

Even if Trump personally paid the Russians to steal the DNC e-mails (highly unlikely, given that the e-mails were stolen during the Dem primary), and then fired Comey to keep the FBI from finding out, this would not be an impeachable offense that rises to the level of getting bipartisan support.  Neither, by the way, is paying off a porn star and failing to disclose it as a campaign expense.

This is why the whole Russia collusion thing is such a red herring.  Even if there was a "there" there (which there isn't), it would not be regarded as serious enough by Republicans to justify impeachment.  I don't know a single Republican who is predisposed to impeach Trump if it turns out that he or his campaign colluded with the Russians.  Through their foundation, Bill and Hillary collected something like $1.5 billion in favors from around the world in the run-up to the presidential election.  No Democrat seems alarmed about that.

The whole Russia-gate affair is being greeted with a giant yawn by everyone but die-hard Dems.



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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2018, 06:12:12 pm »
Lets talk about Winston for a while you grammar hounds.

"Winston Tastes Good Like A Cigarette Should"

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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2018, 06:33:29 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on May 23, 2018, 06:12:12 pm
Lets talk about Winston for a while you grammar hounds.

"Winston Tastes Good Like A Cigarette Should"



That's an easy one:  "as a cigarette should." 

I have to confess that I have never cared much for the distinction between "as" and "like" in this case.  The logic for demanding "as" instead of "like" is pretty subtle, having more to do with syntax than grammar, it seems to me.
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2018, 07:30:26 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 23, 2018, 05:26:12 pm
Did they change it to "no one?"

Yes, they did, which ruined the whole quote.  It sounded bland and unappealing.

I've always thought the use of the term 'man' in that sort of connection meant, or denoted, mankind.

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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2018, 09:40:27 pm »
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Yes, they did, which ruined the whole quote.  It sounded bland and unappealing.

I've always thought the use of the term 'man' in that sort of connection meant, or denoted, mankind.

It did, and it was decided it had to go, probably due to liberals screaming "What about women??."  I guess the changing of the quote was one small step for a man, but one giant leap backward for mankind.
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2018, 09:58:39 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 22, 2018, 06:02:53 pm
I don't think I do either.  Sometimes I'm tortured trying to decide whether to use "Was" or "Were."

I was
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #73 on: May 23, 2018, 10:20:02 pm »
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I was
we were

Sometimes it's difficult to determine if the object is singular or plural. 
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Re: Harvard's Tribe on CNN: To impeach Trump, 'you have to shoot to kill'
« Reply #74 on: May 23, 2018, 10:44:05 pm »
The past tense of see is saw. As in, 'I saw it.'
However this usage is in decline. Now, everyone I see on television is saying, 'I seen it.' I haven't heard anyone say, 'I saw it up on the hill.' in years. Everyone 'seen' it up on the hill.

"It has been seen." is correct.
"I seen it." is technically incorrect. However, these days it is in common use.

This used to irk me a little, but I have accepted that 'seen' is the new 'saw'. Languages change over time. This just happens to be one that happened in my lifetime.

The same with, 'Where are you at?' Everybody says this. Even though it is ridiculous. 'Where are you?' is better. So many people are adding an extra word simply to make the question grammatically incorrect. 'at' in this case adds nothing to what is being said. And yet, everyone adds it. I don't know why.

Since we are on the topic, what is with replacing words that begin with vowels with 'uh'. For example, you never have to be there immediately, you have to be there 'uh'mediately. There is never an emergency. There is only an 'uh'mergency. Even newscasters, people who are supposedly trained in language do this. It is perplexing. There is no experiment. There is only an 'exspearmint'.

Oh well, life too short to worry about things like this.
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