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Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« on: May 19, 2018, 02:22:50 pm »
By Veronique de Rugy
http://reason.com/archives/2018/05/19/stop-calling-the-gop-the-party

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There was a time when GOP lawmakers called for the elimination of entire federal agencies. Today, milquetoast promises to pursue smaller government are followed by votes for ever bigger government.

As Milton Friedman noted, the true size of the state is measured by how much money it spends. Budget data show that all modern presidents, regardless of party affiliation, have increased the federal fiscal footprint—but Republican administrations have generally increased the amount spent at a faster rate than Democratic ones . . .

. . . Yes, Republicans deserve credit for getting in the way of the Democrats' wildest spending schemes. But whatever motivation they had to limit expenditure growth while a Democrat sat in the Oval Office vanished once a Republican took over.

We obviously don't have a full picture yet of spending during Donald Trump's tenure. But with Washington unified under GOP rule since January 2017, congressional Republicans have been blowing money at levels congressional Democrats could only dream of. They quickly lifted the spending caps associated with sequestration—the only even modestly effective expenditure limit still in place—to grow the already bloated Pentagon budget even more. Indeed, the purported party of limited government shamelessly increased discretionary spending by $300 billion over two years.

Led by a president who doesn't appear to understand basic economics and who insists that the long-term drivers of America's unsustainable national debt—Social Security and Medicare—can't be touched, the mainstream GOP has proven that the grumbling about big government under Obama was mere political posturing . . .

. . . Republican apologists always seem to have an excuse for federal expansions on their watch . . . Believing that Republicans will make good on pledges to reduce the size and scope of government makes us Charlie Brown to politicians' football-holding Lucy. But at least Republicans oppose barriers to trade, right?

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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 03:34:14 pm »
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There was a time when GOP lawmakers called for the elimination of entire federal agencies. Today, milquetoast promises to pursue smaller government are followed by votes for ever bigger government...Republican administrations have generally increased the amount spent at a faster rate than Democratic ones.

And GOP party hacks and Trumsplicans are still outraged when we say there is zero difference between either party. One simply takes us to totalitarian Socialism at a slower pace with different lobbyists writing legislation and the other takes us to economic insolvency faster.

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"...deficits don't matter." No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, and bank bailouts serve as a vivid reminder that shrinking the state doesn't stand a chance.

Not only that, but putting this government back into the confines of Constitutional bounds is also off the table and never going to happen.  Neither the GOP or the Democrats will permit or allow the government to be limited or the Constitutional usurpations and circumventions it has breached to be restored. Ever.  It is corrupted beyond redemption and we are now left with voting for whichever monarch we are led to believe is going to 'save us'.

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The voting record of congressional Republicans while Obama was in office is additional evidence that politics—not principles—guide the GOP.

The commentary of Republican party members and self-identifying "Conservatives" post-Trump illustrates that principles no longer matter and are to be considered an evil and irrelevant.  Revenge, payback and shoving faces into the crotch of their dominance while achieving power is all that matters to them.  Once their party and cult of personality get power, all efforts are spent to cheerlead every act and statement to force all to submit and pledge fealty to the ruler and his party, or be declared an enemy of the people and the state.

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But with Washington unified under GOP rule since January 2017, congressional Republicans have been blowing money at levels congressional Democrats could only dream of.

1.5 TRILLION in deficit spending, plus and additional $700 and $710  BILLION spent in the next two years for the military - 30 billion more than requested by the Pentagon FOR JUST THE NEXT TWO YEARS.  All deficit spending, fiat currency with nothing to back it up except empty promises.  One day soon, the moment confidence wanes - Weimar is going to be a picnic in comparison and we will ALL be looking at Venezuela for ideas on what comes next.

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Republican apologists always seem to have an excuse for federal expansions on their watch.

Always.  Even when adopting the Democrat agenda for themselves, the Apologists for Trump and the GOP find a way to get in our faces to excuse it as necessary in order to 'win'.

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Believing that Republicans will make good on pledges to reduce the size and scope of government makes us Charlie Brown to politicians' football-holding Lucy.

Yes, that meme has been offered for years.  And, for me at least - I am done playing that game just so I can say that I am on a 'team'.  Not interested in their games anymore, or their party.

It is time to do something different, away from DC.

Because the consequences of what the GOP and the Democrats have been busy doing the last several decades, has not even visited us fully yet.

It's only just beginning, and their answer to the woe and misery they have sown that we are just beginning to reap, will be to impose more iron-fisted government and shake you down for every penny to keep the Beast fed while it still expands itself.  Laws will be enacted to prevent your escape and force you into compliance with whatever oppression they dream up 'for the good of the people'.

The Republic is over.  We're just too afraid to admit it to ourselves because either we have to do something about it, or accept our fate.  So it is better to deceive ourselves and pretend that things are still okay and working the way they are supposed to.
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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2018, 03:42:43 pm »
The GOP stopped being the party of small government a LONG time ago it seems to me.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 06:55:42 pm »
The problem when the GOP become the majority party in both Congress and the WH, the Democrat Party, who never care about any budgetary restraints  in both the majority or the minority , also have free reign. There seems to be nobody that stops the run away spending

Sometimes I wonder if it is better to keep the GOP in a permanent minority status. At least in that position they at least pretend to care about the budget
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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 08:33:36 pm »
Sometimes I wonder if it is better to keep the GOP in a permanent minority status. At least in that position they at least pretend to care about the budget

@LMAO

I’ve had the same thought. The GOP only seem to care about fiscal issues when a Democrat is in the White House.
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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 08:42:03 pm »
The GOP stopped being the party of small government a LONG time ago it seems to me.

Both the GOP and DNC love big, powerful, centralized governments on different issues.

Both parties want a government to be a big, expensive hammer, slamming down of their issues of the day.

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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 08:46:01 pm »
The D's and R's are just two flavors of big government.

Neither is serious about reducing spending or shrinking the beast.

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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 08:54:15 pm »
The D's and R's are just two flavors of big government.

Neither is serious about reducing spending or shrinking the beast.

It seems political parties are encouraged (for lack of a better term) when they get in power to do as much as they can on their pet issues, which usually means exponential increases in spending and government size. They see it as a limited victory so they rush putting as much in as they can. This is their nature but the fault lays on the feet of the public who demand this.

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Re: Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2018, 08:57:56 pm »


P.J. nailed it!  They do EXACTLY what their K Street bosses tell them to and to hell with the consequences!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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