TRUMP IS STARTING TO SPOOK THE LEFT

[Bigun]

I'm thinkin that we don't need mods here!  We need a fire department instead!

To put out all the dumpster fires!

[Frank Cannon]

Then what the hell are you here for? Principles are first things - TRUE things. ALWAYS TRUE things.

The filthy pig down the street who makes his wife wear a sheet over her head has principles. He wants to blow everyone up in the name of allah. Is that what you mean?

[roamer_1]

The filthy pig down the street who makes his wife wear a sheet over her head has principles. He wants to blow everyone up in the name of allah. Is that what you mean?

Really? You think his way is TRUE? That what he believes is principled?

[Concerned]

Then what the hell are you here for? Principles are first things - TRUE things. ALWAYS TRUE things. If the Principles of Conservatism are true, then why the hell wouldn't you fight for them? And if not, what the hell are you fighting for?

Unfortunately, I think principled-thinking represents pre-Trump thinking for many of his supporters.   Although many of them previously stood for things like fiscal conservatism and morality, they no longer can stand for those principles because their leader doesn't care about such things.   

[aligncare]

It is indeed simplistic - as expected, as it is raised in defense of the notion that less-than-perfect is preferred. A simplistic notion, to the point of absurdity. In all other things, it is laudable to strive for excellence - for perfection - Except where politics is concerned? How absurd is that?

Then what the hell are you here for? Principles are first things - TRUE things. ALWAYS TRUE things. If the Principles of Conservatism are true, then why the hell wouldn't you fight for them? And if not, what the hell are you fighting for?

FOOLISHNESS. You lose before you even try.

Talk about foolishness. The way it works in America is everyone gets representation. People who have a different point of view from you participate in the political process too. And they will oppose your partisan views at every election. Conservatives have no more right to that process than do they. If you don’t control the levers of power, you got nothing.

[Frank Cannon]

Really? You think his way is TRUE? That what he believes is principled?

So then "True" is subjective since I'm sure that filthy dirtbag thinks his principles are true as well.

[roamer_1]

Talk about foolishness. The way it works in America is everyone gets representation. People who have a different point of view from you participate in the political process too. And they will oppose your partisan views at every election. Conservatives have no more right to that process than do they. If you don’t control the levers of power, you got nothing.

No, that isn't how it works. Everyone isn't represented. Liberalism is being crammed down our throats, time after time, for DECADES. Liberalism is being represented.

WHY? It fails everywhere it is tried.

I will tell  you why: Because it has no opposition.
Mere Republicans.

[Frank Cannon]

Unfortunately, I think principled-thinking represents pre-Trump thinking for many of his supporters.   Although many of them previously stood for things like fiscal conservatism and morality, they no longer can stand for those principles because their leader doesn't care about such things.

Can you show me where "Principled-thinking" has been in practice prior to 2016? I have to go back to Calvin Coolidge to see it in action.

[Sanguine]

Talk about foolishness. The way it works in America is everyone gets representation. People who have a different point of view from you participate in the political process too. And they will oppose your partisan views at every election. Conservatives have no more right to that process than do they. If you don’t control the levers of power, you got nothing.

Maybe everyone gets representation, but the ability to act upon that representation is constrained by the Constitution, which hugely limits the different points of view.

[roamer_1]

So then "True" is subjective since I'm sure that filthy dirtbag thinks his principles are true as well.

Truth is never subjective by it's very definition.
What the dirtbag thinks and what is true are two different things.

[roamer_1]

Can you show me where "Principled-thinking" has been in practice prior to 2016? I have to go back to Calvin Coolidge to see it in action.

BEFORE 2016? As if to say that the principles of Conservatism are being enacted NOW? ROTFLMAO!!

[Concerned]

Can you show me where "Principled-thinking" has been in practice prior to 2016? I have to go back to Calvin Coolidge to see it in action.

During the Obama years, Paul Ryan and the Republican Congress constantly railed against Obama deficit spending.  That's no longer the case because the leader of the party doesn't care about fiscal resposibility.  Rand Paul even called out the GOP on their hypocrisy on this subject earlier this year:

“I think we should draw attention to the fact that we're spending so much money. I ran for office in 2010 with what was called sort of the Tea Party tidal wave,” Paul told CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“At that point we were very, very critical of President Obama's deficits, you know, approaching a trillion dollars in a year. We talked endlessly about them we had 100,000 people rally on the [National] Mall in Washington. And I'm still against deficit spending; just because Republicans are doing it, doesn't make it any better.”

IMO, the Republicans supported the principles of fiscal conservatism when a Democrat was in office, but now that a Republican is in office, they've abandoned those principles.  JMO.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/373335-paul-deficit-spending-no-better-under-republicans

[skeeter]

BEFORE 2016? As if to say that the principles of Conservatism are being enacted NOW? ROTFLMAO!!

Obama's legacy is being dismantled. That is unarguable.

Since Obama is the diametric opposite of conservative I believe this loosely qualifies.

[Hoodat]

I know @DCPatriot   I got an e-mail from a former active member here who got so disgusted with the NTers, she left TBR.  It's sad.

Compare that with TOS which bans people for not being AT.

[Hoodat]

Obama's legacy is being dismantled. That is unarguable.

Still hoping the day will come when Obamacare is repealed and trillion dollar deficits are no more.

[DB]

@DB

Thanks for the heads up. It is unfortunate that Trump even picks such. Would that he did not follow tradition of conferring with State Senators...particulary far left Senators.

However, it  looks like that ONE ...ONE out of how many, is less than what we would want. ... from the link contained in your thread link....The Alliance for Justice, which has led the fight against Trump judicial nominees, said Mr. Bennett is an exception, and they won’t oppose him., even the far left acknowledges that the body of work of Presidents Trumps judicial picks is conservative...definitely what the far left opposes.

An honest man would acknowledge that Trumps judicial picks are, by far, changing the judiciary in our favor. They are a great thing, and would credit Trump for such.

Change my opinion of you, if you care. Are you such a man?

Interestingly enough, this pick was appointed AG by a republican governor in Hawaii. Perhaps in that State, there is not much better to choose from...  https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/who-mark-bennett/

An honest man would have simply apologized for jumping to conclusions about another persons integrity as you did. Everything I said was accurate in my post yet you called it dishonest and then doubled down on it. It is you who have damaged your integrity here not me.

[DB]

Obama's legacy is being dismantled. That is unarguable.

Since Obama is the diametric opposite of conservative I believe this loosely qualifies.

Obama's real and lasting "legacy" that has long term serious consequences is his 10+ trillion dollars of additional debt. Nothing he's done is more damaging than that. Even damage from illegal immigration takes a back seat to that - which is also a major problem.

None of which has been "dismantled" by Trump or the GOP. Quite the opposite in fact.

[skeeter]

Still hoping the day will come when Obamacare is repealed and trillion dollar deficits are no more.

As I do, and as I hope the borders are secured.

Unfortunately, those have to be group efforts.

[roamer_1]

Obama's legacy is being dismantled. That is unarguable.

Since Obama is the diametric opposite of conservative I believe this loosely qualifies.

LOL! Yeah right. 

Call me when the balanced budget happens and real spending reduction occurs.

[roamer_1]

Obama's real and lasting "legacy" that has long term serious consequences is his 10+ trillion dollars of additional debt. Nothing he's done is more damaging than that. Even damage from illegal immigration takes a back seat to that - which is also a major problem.

None of which has been "dismantled" by Trump or the GOP. Quite the opposite in fact.

That's right. To the tune of a third more in increase. SOSDD.
That is not conservative.

[skeeter]

LOL! Yeah right. 

Call me when the balanced budget happens and real spending reduction occurs.

Will do. Sorry to intrude upon your half-empty worldview.

Continue kvetching now.

[DCPatriot]

LOL! Yeah right. 

Call me when the balanced budget happens and real spending reduction occurs.

LOL!

Freaking house is burning down....Trump has the fire under control, and you're screaming/bitching because "....those damned gutters were never painted".

[roamer_1]

Will do. Sorry to intrude upon your half-empty worldview.

Continue kvetching now.

Nothing half empty about it. Your emperor is buck-ass nekkid.

[roamer_1]

LOL!

Freaking house is burning down....Trump has the fire under control, and you're screaming/bitching because "....those damned gutters were never painted".

How the hell does he have ANYTHING 'under control' ??

[skeeter]

Nothing half empty about it. Your emperor is buck-ass nekkid.

Is this where I become infuriated at your childish provocation?