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The GOP is abandoning policy goals that used to define the party, and replacing them with raw Trumpism
By Peter Suderman
http://reason.com/blog/2018/05/10/trump-infrastructure-republicans-agenda

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In the Trump administration, it's always infrastructure week. But it's less of a legislative rollout and more of a state of mind. Despite promises dating back to the 2016 presidential campaign, the White House admitted yesterday that there won't be any infrastructure bill this year.

Whether you view Trump's infrastructure plan as a smart way to leverage federal spending, another federal boondoggle, an on-brand political move with cross-partisan potential, or, like me, some mix of the above, the elimination of the bill from this year's agenda is yet another reminder of how little Republicans have to offer in terms of substantive policy.

With roughly six months to go until the midterm elections, Republicans in Washington are choosing to sit on their hands. Following the recent budget deal, which raised spending on both military and domestic programs, and the passage of the tax law last December, the GOP appears content to coast into the election without further pursuing any major legislative initiatives.

If anything, the party appears to be giving up on its long-held priorities, and replacing them with vacuous Trumpism. Loyalty to the president has become a substitute for a governing vision . . .

. . . Trump is the black hole at the center of the GOP, the center of gravity that pulls everything into its void. Republicans have become the party of no ideas.

Even if this somehow turns out to be an effective political strategy in the short run, it is a sign of a profound emptiness within the modern GOP, a crude policy nihilism that existed prior to Trump but which has, under his administration, overtaken all else. The effect has been not only to transform the GOP into an enfeebled and ridiculous cult of presidential personality but to embolden Democrats to move rapidly toward an expansive agenda—think single-payer health care and a jobs guarantee—that is now unconstrained by a competing narrative . . .


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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 08:39:44 pm »
Wait - the GOP had goals and ideas before Trump?

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 08:42:27 pm »
Wait - the GOP had goals and ideas before Trump?
@Sanguine
It was alleged . . . ;)

(Well, they did have a few pre-D.M., but remember how swiftly those went down the drain even when Republicans had both chambers of Congress and the White House in the early-to-mid Aughts . . . )


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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 09:05:32 pm »
Wait - the GOP had goals and ideas before Trump?


They had promises they didn't expect to be put to the test. Then the worst happened, they had opportunity to meet their promises. Who knew?


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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 09:21:22 pm »
What happened to all the "infrastructure" we were told was going to be fixed by the $1.3 TRILLION deficit spending budget Trump signed not long ago, as part of the justification for spending it on top of the two $700 BILLION military spending packages he signed into law on February 9th?

More smoke, mirrors and widow dressing bullshit from the Reality TV president and the 'Better and Bigger Spenders than the Democrat Trumplican Party'?

Before Trump and Under Trump, the Republicans have become the Party of Bigger and More Intrusive Government and More Deficit Spending than the Democrats.

They are simply the Party of better-managed Giant Government Statism.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2018, 09:26:03 pm »

They had promises they didn't expect to be put to the test. Then the worst happened, they had opportunity to meet their promises. Who knew?
That also happened in the early-to-mid Aughts.

Instead, the Republicans became . . .



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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 09:34:52 pm »
Im chuffed to death at MOST of what this man has done while president. Where he has been able to act on his own he has done exactly the right thing IMO. Where he has had to depend upon the GOP for support is another story.   

But thats what we’ve come to expect from the GOP - they’re pretty much worse than worthless. They’re an impediment.
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 09:48:52 pm »
That also happened in the early-to-mid Aughts.

Instead, the Republicans became . . .




Yeah, Tanner is much libertarian. Maybe because libertarians were the only ones truly against big government across the board.


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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 09:51:12 pm »

Yeah, Tanner is much libertarian. Maybe because libertarians were the only ones truly against big government across the board.
I've had that book since it was first published. I thought then that it should have been required reading for anyone going into a voting booth in the 2008 primaries.


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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 10:00:21 pm »
Wait - the GOP had goals and ideas before Trump?

@Sanguine

Yes they did.  Get Obama elected so they didn't have to do anything.
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2018, 12:51:19 pm »
What happened to all the "infrastructure" we were told was going to be fixed by the $1.3 TRILLION deficit spending budget Trump signed not long ago, as part of the justification for spending it on top of the two $700 BILLION military spending packages he signed into law on February 9th?

More smoke, mirrors and widow dressing bullshit from the Reality TV president and the 'Better and Bigger Spenders than the Democrat Trumplican Party'?

Before Trump and Under Trump, the Republicans have become the Party of Bigger and More Intrusive Government and More Deficit Spending than the Democrats.

They are simply the Party of better-managed Giant Government Statism.

Hey! @INVAR  How's your new political party coming along?


« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 12:51:56 pm by Right_in_Virginia »

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2018, 03:04:57 am »
Title and premise:
"Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas"

Simply... nonsense.

The Republicans had become "the party of no ideas" LONG BEFORE Mr. Trump entered the picture, and they remain so after his election and moving into the Oval Office.

Indeed, whatever little ideas many of them had within their little heads, they cower in terror now that they might actually be called to ACT upon them and make a commitment to govern based upon same.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2018, 03:07:51 am »
Hey! @INVAR  How's your new political party coming along?

 000hehehehe

They can have a one man parade! Make that two or three.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2018, 03:20:59 am »
000hehehehe

They can have a one man parade! Make that two or three.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2018, 03:34:23 am »
"Under Trump", there is only ONE idea.

Undo everything possible enacted/hired by the Obama Administrations...at the same time creating good jobs in a somewhat peaceful world.
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2018, 03:44:45 am »
 If the GOP keeps the House and adds couple of Senators it will be considered a win~win all the while the Trumpers will think it's just another day in Paradise while most of America weeps and realizes it's just the same ol $hit.
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2018, 03:46:11 am »
"Under Trump", there is only ONE idea.

Undo everything possible enacted/hired by the Obama Administrations...at the same time creating good jobs in a somewhat peaceful world.

America First, that's an idea... and all does not go smoothly always, I give you that... but the premise of the article I believe is basically flawed.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2018, 03:47:27 am »
Some say the Reagan legacy was abandoned, that's the point of bringing up things like the above book. I'd have to say, we are at a half way point and under no circumstances, was all rosy under Reagan as well.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2018, 05:20:40 am »
Indeed, whatever little ideas many of them had within their little heads, they cower in terror now that they might actually be called to ACT upon them and make a commitment to govern based upon same.
I for one would prefer a commitment not to govern but to begin in earnest---not little chippings away that really amount to just reducing the last president's overreaches and a little regulatory window-dressing of shavings---the actual, real reduction of the State. (What we have now is not and has not been for an extremely long time a properly-construed government.) The problem is not whether a party "governs"; the problem is that

a) We remain governed to a fare-thee-well, and that neither this White House nor this Congress---each purporting to be of the party that purports to be the party of smaller government (but has done nothing in the past eighteen years to suggest it's more than a propagation on its part)---has acted in any way, shape, or form on behalf of un-governing us above and beyond the aforesaid chippings away; and,

b) For better or worse, a few too many Americans prefer to be governed to a fare-thee-well.

I don't want to hear about who is or isn't ready to "govern." Until or unless one American would obstruct or abrogate another American's equivalent rights, the American people do not need to be "governed." They---all of us---need to be left the hell alone.
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2018, 05:49:42 am »
I don't want to hear about who is or isn't ready to "govern." Until or unless one American would obstruct or abrogate another American's equivalent rights, the American people do not need to be "governed." They---all of us---need to be left the hell alone.

That's right. Wake me up when y'all are ready to fight for small government, balanced budgets, the cessation of nation building and world policing, and a return to the morality that mad our forefathers great... Till then, y'all are just moving around the deck chairs with your 'big government 'conservatism''.

Until then, I don't want a dang thing to do with any of it.

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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2018, 08:42:13 am »
Reason is the magazine of the Libertarians, maybe not the Libertarian party but they can call me, when they actually get something done.

Trump voters can be content with a powerful economy, possible decnuclearization of the Korean peninsula, defeating ISIS, border security.  These others didn't do that. Nor vote for  actions taken for the pro-life and pro-religious liberties cause. Low unemployment.

Why pay attention to the sour grapes of some so-called voice of the libertarian outlook? Or a lot of others who just fuss,
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Re: Under Trump, Republicans Have Become the Party of No Ideas
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2018, 04:43:55 pm »
If the GOP keeps the House and adds couple of Senators it will be considered a win~win all the while the Trumpers will think it's just another day in Paradise while most of America weeps and realizes it's just the same ol $hit.


Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a Never Trump

There ain't no paradise on this here Earth, son. No sirree.

I don't see anyone here calling this paradise and that 'same ol $hit' is just human nature. Human nature is what it is and can't be legislated or dictated away. It is @INVAR iable.