Pence says it’s time for Mueller to wrap it up

[Right_in_Virginia]

Pence says it’s time for Mueller to wrap it up
Associated Press, May 10, 2018, Zeke Miller

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Mike Pence said Thursday he believes it’s time for special counsel Robert Mueller to conclude his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and other potential misdeeds by those in the president’s orbit.

“In the interests of the country, I think it’s time to wrap it up.” Pence told NBC News following the release of three Americans held by North Korea.

Pence said the Trump administration has “fully cooperated” with Mueller’s probe, including turning over more than one million documents. President Donald Trump has called the investigation a “witch hunt,” and his outside counsel, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, has called on the Justice Department to put an end to the probe.

Pence added: “I would very respectfully encourage the special counsel and his team to bring their work to completion.”

More:  https://apnews.com/2c48454c665c4f43bfabaf13a495d660/Pence-says-it%27s-time-for-Mueller-to-%22wrap-it-up%22

[edpc]

Given his constitutional authority and role in the matter, his opinion on it carries as much weight as anyone's here.

[skeeter]

Given his constitutional authority and role in the matter, his opinion on it carries as much weight as anyone's here.

Its another significant voice. Once the preponderance of opinion is in alignment with his - and it will soon be - this farce will end.

[driftdiver]

Given his constitutional authority and role in the matter, his opinion on it carries as much weight as anyone's here.

While he doesn't have any legal authority to end it, I guarantee as Vice President his statement carries far more weight then  yours or mine.

Thats because he does have political authority.

[edpc]

That's because he does have political authority.

Not in this.  What 'payments' are a private matter?  If any other public figure had a bag man paying of porn stars or accepting money from corporations with government business, you can be damn sure there would be a demand to hear about it.

[driftdiver]

Not in this.  What 'payments' are a private matter?  If any other public figure had a bag man paying of porn stars or accepting money from corporations with government business, you can be damn sure there would be a demand to hear about it.

Not worth arguing with you about.  He's the Vice President, nuff said.

[skeeter]

Not in this.  What 'payments' are a private matter?  If any other public figure had a bag man paying of porn stars or accepting money from corporations with government business, you can be damn sure there would be a demand to hear about it.

My understanding is celebrities have non-disclosure agreements involving payments all the time. Another unhappy result of the abundance of lawyers in our society and perfectly legal.

[edpc]

Not worth arguing with you about.  He's the Vice President, nuff said.

Truman and the A-bomb are all you need to know about the VP's input.  Unless it involves the Senate, a state funeral, or succession, he's irrelevant.  Nuff said.

[XenaLee]

Given his constitutional authority and role in the matter, his opinion on it carries as much weight as anyone's here.

Really?   You mean... you actually think that your opinion carries as much weight as the Vice-President's opinion?  Are you serious?

[edpc]

Really?   You mean... you actually think that your opinion carries as much weight as the Vice-President's opinion?  Are you serious?

Anyone from this list, A-Z, where this is concerned.  He has just as much influence over it.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=mlist

[240B]

Mueller went from investigating so called 'Russian collusion' to now investigating porn stars. I would say he is a little off-track. He only had one job, and he failed. So now he is trying to build a career out of a stupid investigation by investigating anyone who has ever been in contact with President Trump. That is not his job.

I know Mueller wants to make a career out of this farce. Mueller will 'investigate' for 8 years if he can. He has no intention at all of ever 'wrapping it up'. But I doubt that will happen. As soon as Sessions is gone (the sooner the better), Rosenstein and Mueller with his cadre of Hillary campaign staff will go with him. Session is the key keeping it all going. Once he gets "YOU'RE FIRED", the whole circus collapses.

[DCPatriot]

Here, I was thinking this morning while listening to Chris Plante http://www.wmal.com/, that it's going to take a custom-make rope with which to hang James Comey.

...and they're going to need somebody good in physics to construct the gallows...7 feet tall....315 lbs

Recall that one of Saddam's generals was accidentally beheaded when his neck snapped.     

[Frank Cannon]

Wow. The man that would be king speaks......

[XenaLee]

Anyone from this list, A-Z, where this is concerned.  He has just as much influence over it.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=mlist

With all due respect.... that's a delusional stance.  Mike Pence is well-respected among most Americans.  He has no "baggage" or shadowy background.  What he thinks is pertinent re: this issue.  And for the record, he is absolutely correct.  When the VP says something, it gets around.... and more Americans will be aware of this BS mockery of the "justice system" fiasco now.  To that I say.... excellent!

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Given his constitutional authority and role in the matter, his opinion on it carries as much weight as anyone's here.

With all due respect @edpc; None of us are getting the front page on major media outlets that the VP gets.

So NONE of our opinions, regardless of Pence's or our own lack of legal authority/station, are worth Jack compared to his.

Even that Horse's Azz Biden's opinion is worth more than our's, because in the real world it's going to influence Votes.

[driftdiver]

Here, I was thinking this morning while listening to Chris Plante http://www.wmal.com/, that it's going to take a custom-make rope with which to hang James Comey.

...and they're going to need somebody good in physics to construct the gallows...7 feet tall....315 lbs

Recall that one of Saddam's generals was accidentally beheaded when his neck snapped.     

@DCPatriot
Hanging someone properly is harder then you think.   Too short a fall and they slowly asphyxiate, too long a fall with too heavy person and the neck separates from the body.  Properly done the neck breaks and death is nearly instantaneous.  Probably more humane then the electric chair or lethal injection.

[skeeter]

@DCPatriot
Hanging someone properly is harder then you think.

A direct ancestor of mine found this out the hard way.

http://spartacus-educational.com/PRbrunt.htm

[edpc]

With all due respect.... that's a delusional stance.  Mike Pence is well-respected among most Americans.  He has no "baggage" or shadowy background.  What he thinks is pertinent re: this issue.  And for the record, he is absolutely correct.  When the VP says something, it gets around.... and more Americans will be aware of this BS mockery of the "justice system" fiasco now.  To that I say.... excellent!

You might be correct about his opinion and influence, except for the fact another Indiana lightweight politician was once VP under Bush 41.  He made a highly publicized, accurate statement regarding a popular TV show and cultural decay.  Would you say people took notice and things improved, or was he largely ignored?  Pence is taken only slightly more seriously than Quayle.

[XenaLee]

You might be correct about his opinion and influence, except for the fact another Indiana lightweight politician was once VP under Bush 41.  He made a highly publicized, accurate statement regarding a popular TV show and cultural decay.  Would you say people took notice and things improved, or was he largely ignored?  Pence is taken only slightly more seriously than Quayle.

There's a huge difference.   Due to Trump's notoriety and infamous status (lol)..... Pence gets a LOT more PR and attention than Quayle ever did.   And there are an awful lot of Americans that even prefer him to Trump.   So they will and do pay attention to what he says.  But nice try!   

[Concerned]

You might be correct about his opinion and influence, except for the fact another Indiana lightweight politician was once VP under Bush 41.  He made a highly publicized, accurate statement regarding a popular TV show and cultural decay.  Would you say people took notice and things improved, or was he largely ignored?  Pence is taken only slightly more seriously than Quayle.

Your observation about Pence’s “weight” on this matter is correct IMO.   In fact, I doubt Pence’s opinion would have much sway on public opinion about the Mueller investigation one way or the other (which by the way, 69% of folks surveyed last month support and 25% opposed per the poll linked below).  Regardless, Special Counsel investigations aren’t typically ended based on political or even popular opinion, and I’ve seen no evidence that Rosenstein or Mueller would likely be susceptible to either in this case. 

IMO the best way for Trump to get Mueller to conclude his investigation is to agree to an interview; of course, that’s also the best way for him to commit perjury (especially given his problems with the truth).

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/majority-of-americans-support-robert-muellers-trump-investigation-poll-says.html

[edpc]

Your observation about Pence’s “weight” on this matter is correct IMO.   In fact, I doubt Pence’s opinion would have much sway on public opinion about the Mueller investigation one way or the other (which by the way, 69% of folks surveyed last month support and 25% opposed per the poll linked below).

My guess is the brought Pence out of the bullpen as relief, because Giuliani went full Rick Ankiel on them.

[LauraTXNM]

I was just thinking, that if Ken Starr's investigational been wrapped up after one year or even two, when Starr had uncovered less than Mueller has at this point, Clinton would never have been impeached.

[Concerned]

I was just thinking, that if Ken Starr's investigational been wrapped up after one year or even two, when Starr had uncovered less than Mueller has at this point, Clinton would never have been impeached.

The average special/independent counsel investigation lasts 1,154 days.  We'd need another 2 years of the Mueller investigation just to get to the average.  There's nothing out of the ordinary about the length of the Mueller IMO other perhaps than the quickness at which he's been able to obtain guilty pleas and indictments.