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Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« on: May 10, 2018, 02:57:34 am »
"Upon reading Avenatti’s document, it’s obvious that he has his hands on (multiple, I think) SARs that have been filed on Cohen. They are structured almost exactly as we write them. The KYC information at the beginning is a huge tipoff. This is something every bank is required to compile when a business account is opened, and it’s what AML staff would refer back to it when examining transactions to see if the account is “behaving” differently than expected. This KYC information would never be included in a bank statement or a ledger. It would only come from a financial institution, and is what is included in SARs narratives to justify their filing. Furthermore, there’s info in the document from multiple banks. Unless Avenatti has people at multiple different banks leaking him info on Cohen (he doesn’t) it comes from a SARs."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/is-this-how-avenatti-found-out

This person thinks someone at FinCen probably gave them to Avenatti.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 03:03:24 am »
This DNC hack lawyer got his ass handed to him by Snuffleupagus of all people on Good Morning America today. He is making shit up as he goes along hoping he can pollute the narrative. Now we have some genuine asshat at a discredited blog claiming he thinks this is real because, well, he thinks so. LOL. Absurd.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 03:14:25 am »
Can't see the article because of my Ad Blocker, and I'll be damned if I white list them.  They're the reason I HAVE an ad blocker. 

If this is how anything got leaked to this blood-sucker, then there's going to be some heavy explaining to be done.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 03:22:35 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2018, 03:14:25 am
Can't see the article because of my Ad Blocker, and I'll be damned if I white list them.  They're the reason I HAVE an ad blocker. 

If this is how anything got leaked to this blood-sucker, then there's going to be some heavy explaining to be done.

@Cyber Liberty  I agree, if someone at FinSec gave all SARs related to a Michael Cohen to Avenatti, it will be a big problem.  Sorry you couldn't read the article; the TLDR is that a reader who says he writes SARs said the docs had the right markers and language to be direct quotes.  Because they're from different banks, he believed they wouldn't have come from the banks but from those with access, which would be:

"FinCEN staff, law enforcement who request them, regulators, the bank staff who filed them originally, and possibly independent auditors who come in to make sure banks are filing BSA paperwork properly. My guess would be it’s someone at FinCEN doing it, but I wouldn’t bet a massive amount of money on it."

I just thought it was interesting because it offered a possible line on the source.  I hadn't read much about SARS and who has access to them until today.  Apparently even the target of a SAR can't be told it exists, so Cohen might literally not have been aware the SARs had been filed. 

Avenatti is a seriously smug and nasty b---ard, and he seems too smart to make a stupid blunder.  I'm wondering if his excuse is that the Times was given the SARs and then showed them to him.  Pretty poor rationale, if so.  I can't wait to see where this goes.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 03:27:13 am »
Avenatti should have kept his mouth shut. He's compromised this case, if you can call it that.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2018, 03:28:53 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 10, 2018, 03:22:35 am
@Cyber Liberty  I agree, if someone at FinSec gave all SARs related to a Michael Cohen to Avenatti, it will be a big problem.  Sorry you couldn't read the article; the TLDR is that a reader who says he writes SARs said the docs had the right markers and language to be direct quotes.  Because they're from different banks, he believed they wouldn't have come from the banks but from those with access, which would be:

"FinCEN staff, law enforcement who request them, regulators, the bank staff who filed them originally, and possibly independent auditors who come in to make sure banks are filing BSA paperwork properly. My guess would be it’s someone at FinCEN doing it, but I wouldn’t bet a massive amount of money on it."

I just thought it was interesting because it offered a possible line on the source.  I hadn't read much about SARS and who has access to them until today.  Apparently even the target of a SAR can't be told it exists, so Cohen might literally not have been aware the SARs had been filed. 

Avenatti is a seriously smug and nasty b---ard, and he seems too smart to make a stupid blunder.  I'm wondering if his excuse is that the Times was given the SARs and then showed them to him.  Pretty poor rationale, if so.  I can't wait to see where this goes.

It's hard to say.  It will have to be a private entity to dig this up, like Judicial Watch, because it's a cinch  neither DoJ or SEC is going to do a damned thing about this.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 03:29:51 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on May 10, 2018, 03:27:13 am
Avenatti should have kept his mouth shut. He's compromised this case, if you can call it that.

I have no idea what any of it means.  It's interesting watching Avenatti, though; he kind of seems like the Underneath version of Trump, like matter and anti-matter.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 03:31:21 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on May 10, 2018, 03:27:13 am
Avenatti should have kept his mouth shut. He's compromised this case, if you can call it that.

I think he  already knows (even better than we do) he has a crap case, so he's just throwing mud around under the cover of having a case.  I wonder who's picking up his fees?  Hmm?  I doubt it's that trollop.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 03:39:25 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2018, 03:31:21 am
I think he  already knows (even better than we do) he has a crap case, so he's just throwing mud around under the cover of having a case.  I wonder who's picking up his fees?  Hmm?  I doubt it's that trollop.

He's a Dem hacktivist who's been a good soldier for the party. Bet the crumbs go to Soros.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 03:41:28 am »
I ain't gonna touch that bet.  It's like you read my mind.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2018, 03:42:15 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2018, 03:31:21 am
I think he  already knows (even better than we do) he has a crap case, so he's just throwing mud around under the cover of having a case.  I wonder who's picking up his fees?  Hmm?  I doubt it's that trollop.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's banking on the publicity from all this to be lucrative in future.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2018, 03:43:14 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2018, 03:28:53 am
It's hard to say.  It will have to be a private entity to dig this up, like Judicial Watch, because it's a cinch  neither DoJ or SEC is going to do a damned thing about this.

If Treasury is investigating, they're serious, right?  I figured that was a good sign ;(.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2018, 03:47:35 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 10, 2018, 03:43:14 am
If Treasury is investigating, they're serious, right?  I figured that was a good sign ;(.

Yeah, me too.   :laugh:

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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2018, 03:53:56 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 10, 2018, 03:42:15 am
I wouldn't be surprised if he's banking on the publicity from all this to be lucrative in future.

I think the Vulcan has a bead on this:  This guy is a party hack who's also a lawyer, and it taking his money from the DNC (or Soros).  I'm not a "boogie-man believer," and I'm not one to blame a rainy day on Soros, but this kind of thing is right up his alley.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2018, 11:27:36 am »
When the WSJ reported on the $130K payment to Daniels back in March, that information came from a SAR filed by First Republic Bank. 

Trump Lawyer’s Payment to Stormy Daniels Was Reported as Suspicious by Bank

By Joe Palazzolo and  Michael Rothfeld
Updated March 5, 2018 1:17 p.m. ET

The bank used by President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer to wire $130,000 to a former adult-film actress flagged the transaction as suspicious and reported it to the Treasury Department, according to a person familiar with the matter.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyers-payment-to-porn-star-was-reported-as-suspicious-by-bank-1520273701
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2018, 03:05:12 am »
@edpc  I'm about to read your article now ;), but I wonder how the WSJ got the SAR.  They're supposed to be very confidential, even from the owner of the bank account.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2018, 03:19:25 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 10, 2018, 03:29:51 am
I have no idea what any of it means.  It's interesting watching Avenatti, though; he kind of seems like the Underneath version of Trump, like matter and anti-matter.

SARS: "law enforcement who request them"
Avenatti said a while ago he is cooperating with the Fed investigators in the Southern District of New York - that group who is investigating Cohen.  They are "law enforcement" and you bet they requested the SARS on Cohen. Avenatti may have gotten it from them - all of them working together to get Cohen.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2018, 03:55:27 am »
it's a good thing they're all drenched in ethics, eh?
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2018, 04:10:15 am »
Avenatti has claimed this information is protected under the 'work product doctorine.'  I've looked that up and all I can find about it is that it protects the notes an attorney might make about the case from discovery.  I'm not sure what he's talking about, but then again, I don't have a law license.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2018, 05:11:23 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2018, 03:14:25 am
Can't see the article because of my Ad Blocker, and I'll be damned if I white list them.  They're the reason I HAVE an ad blocker. 

If this is how anything got leaked to this blood-sucker, then there's going to be some heavy explaining to be done.
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There is a way to beat those blocked pages!
There is a site called instapaper that allows you to click on a button on your tool bar to save a web page for later reading.
(A kind of bookmarking site)
They also have a button that you can put on your tool bar that says instapaper text.

When I get to a site that has one of those ... "OMG, YOUR BLOCKING OUR MONEY MAKING ADS!", I click the instapaper textbutton and instapaper loads a clear of any ad, fully readable page!
(Did any of that make sense?)

Some screen shots:

The first shot is part of my tool bar at the top of my browser page.
(see the buttons?)

The second shot is the OMG popup. 8)

The last pic is a partial screenshot of the former blocked page!
Instapaper clears all of the ads and shows the entire page, pictures too!
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2018, 05:25:45 am »
On Firefox, I installed the add-on, and I can see the tiny button at the far right of my toolbar to save it, but I can't see where I can read it.   :shrug:

N/M.  I found it.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2018, 07:17:55 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 11, 2018, 05:25:45 am
On Firefox, I installed the add-on, and I can see the tiny button at the far right of my toolbar to save it, but I can't see where I can read it.   :shrug:

N/M.  I found it.

If you click the text button, it will open in a new page.
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Re: Is This How Avenatti Found Out?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2018, 01:05:13 pm »
Quote from: mrclose on May 11, 2018, 07:17:55 am
If you click the text button, it will open in a new page.

Firefox is not the same as Chrome. I don't have the buttons that appear in your screen grab.  I had to dig a bit to find it, but find it I did.   ^-^
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