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I don't see this as isolating us from the rest of the world. If the US won't take serious matters seriously then why would anyone else?


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I'd think Mossad and our intelligence must have a good idea on what Iran has and has not.

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It is a good move on Trump's part.    The agreement was a piece of [expletive] from the beginning and it's almost certain that Iran violated it even before the ink was dry.  And now another part of the Obama legacy of selling out the US in favor of its enemies is over. 

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I'd think Mossad and our intelligence must have a good idea on what Iran has and has not.

Our intelligence agencies told the President the Iranians weren't cheating.

Hence the reason the President referenced Israeli intel as justification for backing out.
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I'm trapped in a room with CNN on the TV and they are having a meltdown over this.
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Our intelligence agencies told the President the Iranians weren't cheating.

Hence the reason the President referenced Israeli intel as justification for backing out.

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yeah and we all know the alphabet agencies FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA would not lie to Trump.  Right?
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I don't see this as isolating us from the rest of the world. If the US won't take serious matters seriously then why would anyone else?

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yeah and we all know the alphabet agencies FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA would not lie to Trump.  Right?

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They are so politicized I think if I was the President right now and the DNI told me the sun was shining I'd have to go look out the window for confirmation.
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I'd think Mossad and our intelligence must have a good idea on what Iran has and has not.

"Our intelligence" has disappointed many times in recent and in distant history. Mossad however operates on a somewhat different mindset:

--Israel cannot afford even one mistake. Location, size/scope of enemies.

--US is protected by distance, oceans, our own overwhelming military capabilities.
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I'm trapped in a room with CNN on the TV and they are having a meltdown over this.


Well, if they were being honest, they'd say this was inevitable.  If it's going to get confrontational, I'd rather have it done now, with some of the people we know, than in a decade with parties unknown.
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yeah and we all know the alphabet agencies FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA would not lie to Trump.  Right?


Well, if the CIA lies to him with his handpicked people like Pompeo and Haspel at the helm, whose fault is that?
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"Our intelligence" has disappointed many times in recent and in distant history. Mossad however operates on a somewhat different mindset:

--Israel cannot afford even one mistake. Location, size/scope of enemies.

--US is protected by distance, oceans, our own overwhelming military capabilities.

I think the primary purpose of classifying information these days is to keep Americans from knowing about it.   They obviously don't care if anyone else knows.
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Excellent. He gave a very good speech, too.  Now it's time to watch Europe's hysterical meltdown.

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Just a reminder: we had the Israeli info more than a year ago.  It was not new news.
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Well, if they were being honest, they'd say this was inevitable.  If it's going to get confrontational, I'd rather have it done now, with some of the people we know, than in a decade with parties unknown.

They aren't being honest.  They hare hand wringing and crying about how Trump has put the U.S. at risk by withdrawing.
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I don't see this as isolating us from the rest of the world. If the US won't take serious matters seriously then why would anyone else?

Most of Europe doesn't see Iran as a threat.  After all they are letting in young male muslim in mass.

The leaders in Europe don't care if the peasants get run over or blown up.   The elite have their security and will be fine.  What the elite do need is more money, and Iran has that and is spreading it around.
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Most of Europe doesn't see Iran as a threat.  After all they are letting in young male muslim in mass.

The leaders in Europe don't care if the peasants get run over or blown up.   The elite have their security and will be fine.  What the elite do need is more money, and Iran has that and is spreading it around.

I'm not sure if it's that they don't care...IMHO it's more they are terrified of doing anything out of fear of terrorist attacks across the country on a daily basis from all the Daesh operatives that have infiltrated their countries.

They're paralyzed by fear.
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#BREAKING Syria’s official SANA news outlet says the country’s air defenses intercepted two Israeli missiles over the el-Kiswah area, south of Damascus, after large explosions are reported in the area, which is allegedly home to an Iranian army base.


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The Russians and probably the Chinese will ensure a stronger agreement never emerges.  Iran is now free to officially ally with Russia.
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Except for the worsened domestic racial problems, And his overseeing an educational system that went all in for accommodating freaks and fruits and failing all students: it is almost like Obama was never here!


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He had to. There's no way he could go credibly into talks with the Norks without taking a hardline on Iran.

Completely agree, nice insight.