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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #100 on: May 07, 2018, 07:58:34 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on May 07, 2018, 05:43:14 pm
I must have taken a wrong turn at Albequerque

I don't know why McCain regrets picking Palin.
It was the smartest move he made during that campaign, one fraught with some other bad decisions.
Her star has been tarnished a bit since, but in 2008, she was the best option, I thought.

Agree.

The only reason I worked to get McCain elected was because of Palin, and that was true of a lot of us.

I don't know if she was hiding who she really was, or if she's radically changed, but I liked her at first, and I think she's pretty much wacko now.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #101 on: May 07, 2018, 08:04:21 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 07, 2018, 07:40:34 pm
He was responding to what I had said to you on Reply #88, so responding to my comments would be one way.  And, I'm not being sarcastic either.  I just find it hard to come to any mutual understanding when there is no mutual.
I agree Sanguine.  The facts we both know would not earn respect from members of a forum like this one.  I believe it should, but I also believe it would be pointless to count out how many times McCain voted for taxcuts, more military spending, gun rights, abortion restrictions, and even immigration restrictions, because I fear the facts carry no weight over the anger you hold for McCain, and the response would be predictably a few times McCain bucked his own party.  I understand your argument yet I find it illogical, and that is not too say that many people don't hold the same view.  They clearly do.  So I am uncertain on the worth of explaining my own opinion with further facts confronted with your reply and chose to ignore it.  I left my comments to stand on their own.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #102 on: May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm »
@Victoria33   Hey, this may be a violation of some kind of Etiquette ... I'm sure Mystery or someone will tell me if it is.

Victoria sent me a personal message defending McCain and saying that it is a sin to criticize him at the end of his life .... but then she blocked my reply so I will post it here.

"McCain spends his last days trashing others and hurting some people who were loyal to him.
Such a contrast to Barbara Bush's last days which were full of love and totally without politics.
He spends his last days in hate instead of trying to reconcile himself to God and others.

It is not a sin to criticize him.


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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #103 on: May 07, 2018, 08:06:29 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 07, 2018, 07:54:38 pm
As far as I'm concerned.... anyone that likes Obama is an enemy of and/or threat to America by virtue of their:

A) stupidity,
B) apparent anti-Americanism,
C) clueless state of being,
D) all of the above

And IMHO....McCain has fit all the criteria for quite some time now.

Your enemy is well over 50% of America.  Good luck soldier.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #104 on: May 07, 2018, 08:08:57 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm
"McCain spends his last days trashing others and hurting some people who were loyal to him.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #105 on: May 07, 2018, 08:09:40 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 08:06:29 pm
Your enemy is well over 50% of America.  Good luck soldier.

Not quite... more like about 33%, if you get right down to the factual reality.  The rest are just clueless, "useful idiots".  Still dangerous and a threat, however, due to the fact that they vote.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #106 on: May 07, 2018, 08:10:44 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm
@Victoria33   Hey, this may be a violation of some kind of Etiquette ... I'm sure Mystery or someone will tell me if it is.

Victoria sent me a personal message defending McCain and saying that it is a sin to criticize him at the end of his life .... but then she blocked my reply so I will post it here.

"McCain spends his last days trashing others and hurting some people who were loyal to him.
Such a contrast to Barbara Bush's last days which were full of love and totally without politics.
He spends his last days in hate instead of trying to reconcile himself to God and others.

It is not a sin to criticize him.

To many respected members, not saying anything at all...virtue signaling, included...says more about one's personal feelings about the man.

We all know his voting record and personal disdain for the POTUS. 

How long he remains cognizant can be measured in hours...days at best.  He wants/needs to get a lot off his chest, apparently.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #107 on: May 07, 2018, 08:11:13 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm
@Victoria33   Hey, this may be a violation of some kind of Etiquette ... I'm sure Mystery or someone will tell me if it is.

Victoria sent me a personal message defending McCain and saying that it is a sin to criticize him at the end of his life .... but then she blocked my reply so I will post it here.

"McCain spends his last days trashing others and hurting some people who were loyal to him.
Such a contrast to Barbara Bush's last days which were full of love and totally without politics.
He spends his last days in hate instead of trying to reconcile himself to God and others.

It is not a sin to criticize him.

It's not a sin to offer up criticism that his past actions so richly deserve.   Victoria is "mistaken".
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #108 on: May 07, 2018, 08:11:23 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 08:04:21 pm
I agree Sanguine.  The facts we both know would not earn respect from members of a forum like this one.  I believe it should, but I also believe it would be pointless to count out how many times McCain voted for taxcuts, more military spending, gun rights, abortion restrictions, and even immigration restrictions, because I fear the facts carry no weight over the anger you hold for McCain, and the response would be predictably a few times McCain bucked his own party.  I understand your argument yet I find it illogical, and that is not too say that many people don't hold the same view.  They clearly do.  So I am uncertain on the worth of explaining my own opinion with further facts confronted with your reply and chose to ignore it.  I left my comments to stand on their own.

OK, decent answer.  Obviously I disagree, but my disagreement is based on his voting record.  A few good votes don't make up for a larger number of bad ones.

The world doesn't end if we disagree.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #109 on: May 07, 2018, 08:13:13 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 07, 2018, 08:09:40 pm
Not quite... more like about 33%, if you get right down to the factual reality.  The rest are just clueless, "useful idiots".  Still dangerous and a threat, however, due to the fact that they vote.
You are entitled to that opinion.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2018, 08:19:49 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 07, 2018, 08:11:23 pm
The world doesn't end if we disagree.
It doesn't.  Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2018, 08:23:31 pm »
   @Emjay, my dear, the 'P' in PM stands for Private and contents therein should not be divulged Publicly. 
    It is such a beautiful feature here that we can all talk Privately.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2018, 08:23:52 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 07, 2018, 07:58:34 pm
Agree.

The only reason I worked to get McCain elected was because of Palin, and that was true of a lot of us.

I don't know if she was hiding who she really was, or if she's radically changed, but I liked her at first, and I think she's pretty much wacko now.

I liked Palin, but not enough to vote for McCain.  I think she has been through a lot with her family and added to that stress was the  stress that she received from all the derogatory comments from the MSM about her and her family.  Stressful events within one's family can sure change a person; especially if they're made public. 
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2018, 08:32:43 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm
@Victoria33   Hey, this may be a violation of some kind of Etiquette ... I'm sure Mystery or someone will tell me if it is.

"Victoria sent me a personal message defending McCain..."

You wrote a post to me and I answered it with a PM since I was not going to post on the thread again.    That is why I sent you the PM.  As I told you in the PM, I was not defending McCain.  I said he is a child of God dying with brain cancer, and reviewing his life as he wishes.  I do think it is a sin to speak of his coming death in terms as some have on this thread.  God will make that decision.  Now, I am off the thread no matter if someone posts to me and I won't answer anyone with a PM unless I know he/she is a friend.  Evidently you are not since you tried to twist the PM into an argument.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2018, 08:39:06 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 07, 2018, 08:05:51 pm
@Victoria33   Hey, this may be a violation of some kind of Etiquette ... I'm sure Mystery or someone will tell me if it is.

Victoria sent me a personal message defending McCain and saying that it is a sin to criticize him at the end of his life .... but then she blocked my reply so I will post it here.

"McCain spends his last days trashing others and hurting some people who were loyal to him.
Such a contrast to Barbara Bush's last days which were full of love and totally without politics.
He spends his last days in hate instead of trying to reconcile himself to God and others.

It is not a sin to criticize him.

I don't think anyone here has the divine power to determine what is a sin and what isn't.

One thing that is disapproved here is sharing personal pm's without the other's permission to post them on the forum.

Re McCain I know most here do not like McCain as a Senator, I am one of them. Just because he is being an egotistical jerk on his deathbed does not mean we have to stoop to his level.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #115 on: May 07, 2018, 08:43:15 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 08:13:13 pm
You are entitled to that opinion.

Considering that Obama got elected despite Obama's background and upbringing.... (Communist white side of the family, Muslim (and Marxist) black side of the family)....

I'd posit that it's more than just an opinion....

since an awful lot of "clueless" people voted for him.   :laugh:
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #116 on: May 07, 2018, 08:46:21 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 07, 2018, 08:39:06 pm
I don't think anyone here has the divine power to determine what is a sin and what isn't.

One thing that is disapproved here is sharing personal pm's without the other's permission to post them on the forum.

Re McCain I know most here do not like McCain as a Senator, I am one of them. Just because he is being an egotistical jerk on his deathbed does not mean we have to stoop to his level.

Um.... if continuing to criticize him as I have for the past decade, despite him being on his deathbed, makes me an "egotistical jerk" in your view... I'll take that hit.  And then some.

JS.....

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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #117 on: May 07, 2018, 08:49:40 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 07, 2018, 08:43:15 pm
Considering that Obama got elected despite Obama's background and upbringing.... (Communist white side of the family, Muslim (and Marxist) black side of the family)....

I'd posit that it's more than just an opinion....

since an awful lot of "clueless" people voted for him.   :laugh:

I don't disagree.  They then voted for Trump.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #118 on: May 07, 2018, 08:53:13 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 08:49:40 pm
I don't disagree.  They then voted for Trump.

Oh no he di'int!

You win.  I'm not in the mood to keep going re: this....lol.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #119 on: May 07, 2018, 08:59:53 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 07, 2018, 08:46:21 pm
Um.... if continuing to criticize him as I have for the past decade, despite him being on his deathbed, makes me an "egotistical jerk" in your view... I'll take that hit.  And then some.

JS.....

LOL..I would never call you that...what you post is your decision.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #120 on: May 07, 2018, 09:11:07 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 07, 2018, 08:53:13 pm
You win.

Finally.

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I'm joking.  I'm disappointed I have worn you out.  I actually think you profess your opinion honestly and I've enjoyed our conversation.  Have a nice day.  See you tomorrow. 
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #121 on: May 07, 2018, 09:13:51 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 09:11:07 pm
Finally.

:headbang: :0012: :cheerlead: :dancer: :elephant: :taz: :lotsosmileys: ****drummer :lotsosmileys: :taz: :elephant: :dancer: :cheerlead: :0012: :headbang:

You do know that there's no money involved, right?
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #122 on: May 07, 2018, 09:14:02 pm »
I had no idea we had that many celebrating smilies.
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #123 on: May 07, 2018, 09:16:39 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 07, 2018, 09:13:51 pm
You do know that there's no money involved, right?
wut? *bouche*
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Re: McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
« Reply #124 on: May 07, 2018, 09:18:27 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 07, 2018, 09:11:07 pm
Finally.

:headbang: :0012: :cheerlead: :dancer: :elephant: :taz: :lotsosmileys: ****drummer :lotsosmileys: :taz: :elephant: :dancer: :cheerlead: :0012: :headbang:

I'm joking.  I'm disappointed I have worn you out.  I actually think you profess your opinion honestly and I've enjoyed our conversation.  Have a nice day.  See you tomorrow.

LOL!   I'm just testy today.  It'll pass.  And when it does....

look out!!!   :rolling:
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